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lover of narnia
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I LOVE IT!!!!!!!!!! :D

This trailer was the awesomest ever!!!! I could barely breathe or speak when I was done watching it and I almost hyperventilated. It held me in extreme loving, awe and shock. I was freaking out (in a good way) talking about it constantly and evening quoting it! It was beyond my wildest dreams and now I realized all this time I had been down rating the movie! It's going to be the best and I can't begin to describe what I love about it!!! :D :D

Lucy is so grown up. That's what my brother noticed right off the bat, and me to! Her hair is longer and she looks so much older and more mature. I love our first glimpse of her personality for the new movie, and also how lots of the scenes were focused on her.

I have to admit I would have loved some more time for us to see Caspian. He's one of my utmost favorite characters and I would have liked to see a few more clips of him and hear his voice. But I'm sure the movie will fulfill it all! ;) But he looked so much like a king. Mature, sure of himself, just in those few sequences.

Aslan looked great, and Reep to. I could barely tell there was a change for Reeps voice, which is nice since I liked how he sounded in PC. Aslan's fur was just cool. The slight golden streaks, and just HIM. I liked him!

The Magician, dufflepods and the magic book were all extremely cool. They did a good job showing the beauty spell and Lucy's face morphing into one of Susan. I'm glad they included it! ;) I'm saving my hugest excited and biggest build up for last.....

SUSAN AND PETER WERE THERE!!!!!!! :D :D :D I am beyond happy about this!! They were most definitely in Narnian clothing walking on the beach with Lucy and Ed! I love this!! The movie people are making me extremely joyful! I to have secret ambitions and hopes ( like susan and Caspian seeing each other again. That would be sweet!!!!) but like Beginte I don't want to get butchered. Susan and Peter are back.....I'll seal my lips until a later time. :p

I'm rather 'blach' that RD was there. But I can look over that for the magnificence of the trailer shines above her small little shots. This is my first ever time being on NW when a trailer is released. I have to say.....this trailer was awesome!!!!! I applaud Michael Apted, Fox and Walden....this is going to be amamzing.

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Posted : June 17, 2010 3:22 am
Lady Galadriel
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Well, I don't have time to comment on every single thing right now, but Edmund is the most glaring thing for me. It's as if he's definitely gotten the Peter syndrome! This makes me wonder if there will definitely be some sort of power struggle between Caspian and Edmund. And the Witch says, "Edmund, I can make you my king"? He's already been a king, as he himself knows! 8-|

The four Pevensies walking near the end confused me. But Peter and Susan are only back for a "cameo," so they won't be in Narnia, I'm sure. Besides, they're not in the room with the picture.

Speaking of the picture, excellently done, by the way.

More later, but I have to go.

Posted : June 17, 2010 3:23 am
-queenSUSAN-
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Well, first viewing of the trailer and I have to say, I'm pretty disappointed. I just didn't.....*like* it. It didn't give me that magical feeling I got from the other two films. Everything looked like CGI, even Lucy and Edmund! And you can tell there were several 'gimmicks' thrown in for the 3D viewers....if the entire film is like that I will cry. That is exactly what I was afraid of when we first heard about VDT in 3D.

I will post a detailed analysis of my thoughts later, once I've had time to watch it again. :(

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Posted : June 17, 2010 3:24 am
daughter of the King
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narnian1, no worries. I think everyone is having a hard time keeping up with this thread. :)

It seems strange to me how many people seem to forget about the whole episode between him and Caspian on the island. So I suppose Edmund's "I'm King" attitude is basis for the scene to happen in the film...

Nope, didn't forget it. But other than that one scene Caspian and Edmund did not even have a hint of a power struggle in the book.

Of course we're allowed to pick it apart - we're fans, that's what we do. ;) But please, folks, don't let your whole day (or week, or month, or year) get ruined over just a trailer!

Whose day is ruined? I'm still looking forward to seeing the movie, and I will probably like it. But if this trailer is any indication (and trailers are supposed to be indications), then major changes have been made to the story.

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Posted : June 17, 2010 3:32 am
lysander
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Aslan looked too fake to me...he looked more "real" in LWW...

Folks, this has been said before and it will be said again: post-production ain't done yet! The CGI looks unfinished because, well, it is! :D If you're going to freak about the CGI, wait for the actual movie, when it's done.

The Dawn Treader in Baynes' illustrations was bright-colored too. I think it looks great.

One thing I noticed when I last watched the trailer: when did Markus and McFeely come on board? (Ha, ha - get it? Okay, bad pun.) I thought we had a different screenwriter for some reason, and I confess I was a bit disappointed to see their names there.

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Posted : June 17, 2010 3:35 am
narnian1
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SUSAN AND PETER WERE THERE!!!!!!! :D :D :D I am beyond happy about this!! They were most definitely in Narnian clothing walking on the beach with Lucy and Ed! I love this!! The movie people are making me extremely joyful!... but like Beginte I don't want to get butchered. Susan and Peter are back.....I'll seal my lips until a later time. :p

If only we knew for sure in what way- if that makes sense. PC finished like in the book, them being told they weren't coming back. There can't be a contradiction here. It's a mystery to me how it'll place in the story but I am confident they won't have them IN the story like with the other two siblings.

Posted : June 17, 2010 3:59 am
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All I want to say right now is that although I think Susan is very pretty, she is not beautiful beyond the lot of mortals and that's how I want Lucy to look like--much more beautiful than Susan.

Posted : June 17, 2010 4:02 am
arabesque
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AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I nearly hyperventilated when I woke up this morning and realized today was THE day!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A few things I thought while watching it.
~Edmund and Lucy definitely look older, but it's not a bad thing.

~Where was Caspian???? There was only like one shot of him???? Come on!!!!! And Eustace was barely noticeable. The whole trailer was about Lucy and Edmund.

PETER AND SUSAN ARE THERE!!!!!!!! *hyperventilates* Yay! At least we get to see them for a moment. I'm wondering where they are though. Maybe they meet up in Aslan's Country for a brief scene? I don't know. But I'm HAPPY about it anyway!!! :D

~Ramundu's daughter was a little too.....bright? I guess I just never imagined her like that.

~ The White witch AGAIN??????!!!!!! WHY do they keep sticking her in! Who CARES about the witch witch! She's DEAD! GRRRRRR!!!!!!!
Anyway....

~The boat is fantastic!!! I'm in love!!!

~Reepacheep looked and sounded awesome!!!!

~The dufflepuds are so adorable!!! ;;)

~I actually liked the very beginning how Edmund tried to enlist. It keeps with the opening themes of the other two films and I thought it worked really well. I'm hoping Ed doesn't turn out to be another Peter attitude though. But I would be more understanding toward the filmmakers if he did because in the book Edmund REALLY does have power issues with Caspian. Perter didn't.

And that's it. I'm going to watch it again. But where IS Caspian and Eustace in this trailer???


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Posted : June 17, 2010 4:07 am
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I have to say, I loved the trailer :) Although, it was quite a shock to me when Peter and Susan showed up, and I thought that the dufflepuds looked kinda like something from Dr. Seuss xD but other than those, I generally liked it. the tag line is really cool, gave me chills :)

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Posted : June 17, 2010 4:11 am
theprincessspy
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Admittedly, I had some (unrealistic) high expectations for VoDT. I was excited about Fox and Apted doing it, and I thought it would be fresh.

It's anything but fresh. It feels like they just used the PC trailer audio with new video. We've got Edmund having a "I'm a king" complex, just like Peter. And of course we've never heard before that "the fate of Narnia rests in your hands" and "you have an extraordinary destiny."

The aspect with Edmund being tempted by the White Witch is iffy. On the one hand, it feels just like Peter in PC, and it's annoying because Edmund has already been freed from and conquered her. However, I have a feeling it might play well into the Dark Island or something. I think there could be a moment where it's almost a memory instead of an actual theme pervading the movie. I hope.

While we all love Reepicheep, he got way too much screen time in the trailer. Where's Caspian? Where's Eustace? We could even have some more of Lucy!

So yes, I'm disappointed in the trailer. It's cliche, and it feels like PC all over again. But I'm hoping that they're just trying to draw in audiences who liked the first two movies (and aren't necessarily fans of the books). I admit that if there was a movie series (without books, or with books that I had never read) and I saw that trailer, I would be excited. And to introduce too many new characters (and not show the old ones) would be poor marketing on their side. They know us book-lovers will see it. They have to bring in everyone else. :) So I have hope.

(Oh, and showing Peter and Susan? I have a feeling it will work out just right.)

EDIT: One more thing. I got chills when the water started pouring out of the painting and they emerged in the ocean. A moment long awaited.


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Posted : June 17, 2010 4:45 am
Farsight1
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I expected something better, but I don't think it was completely 'horrible', like gP is saying (and this is coming from somebody who HATED the inclusion of the White Witch, the cheesy taglines and all the posters released so far). For a book fan it was bad enough. For somebody who doesn't care about Narnia so far - and there are plenty of those out there - this could be just the thing. Here are the teaser's pros and cons so far as I see them (I'll list the cons first).

Cons:
1) The beginning of the trailer failed to pull me in like the other trailers did.

2) It was a bit too generic. Apparently to the people making these movies, Lord of the Rings + Harry Potter = Narnia. I don't like the fact that Edmund now has a glowing sword, hobbit-style and they created an entire 'fate of Narnia' for them to defend. And The White Witch is now officially Narnia's Lord Voldemort. She's a witch, she can't be killed, she's in EVERY movie AND she holds a grudge against a particular group of children.

3) More on the The White Which stuff: she DOES appear (!), she IS green (!), she tempts EDMUND again (!), and the Dark Island is NOT dark (!).

4) Edmund is suffering from movie-Peter complex AND he seems to have forgotten everything the Witch did to him, not looking at all like he opposes to be tempted by her. Maybe it's just me, but if somebody had tried to kill me AND my siblings, I wouldn't even bother to listen to that person. Then again, the mist of the Dark Island is magical, it makes people desperate, and an apparent lack of choices could make them forget anything and make a deal with whatever comes out of that mist. But follow me here: Green Mist... A Witch controlling it all, causing people to doubt everything they know in a contained space they can't get out of... Sounds a little bit TOO familiar, doesn't it? I don't quite like where THAT seems to be going.

6) Aslan and the Minotaur don't quite look like themselves.

7) Peter, Susan, Lucy and Edmund are ALL at the same place wearing similar looking clothes - and it doesn't look like it's England. Flashback? Adaptation heresy? Until December, we'll never know.

8) If Michael Apted's filmmaking style is any different from Adamson's, you can't tell from the trailer.

9) Where is the reference to the Lost Lords? This is just the teaser and they'll probably explain things on the full version of the trailer, but it did bother me not hearing anything about it.

Pros:

1) The overall look of the trailer (and website) is much more appropriate to the movie than the posters and print materials so far. Looks like they have very different people working on this. I don't know whether one will outbalance the other, but at least it's not a 100% failure. More like a 50/50.

2) Lucy shoots bow and arrow and does NOT use her dagger in battle, exactly like she did in the VTD book (if you don't believe me, go read it yourself).

3) The "battle" on the Lone Islands looks more like a small skirmish than a full fledged "battle" and Lucy is NOT in it (because of course she's in jail with the others). You can see that when she prepares to shoot, she looks like she's either inside the ship or Coriakin's house - the latter is more likely and plausible. If the battle is against the Calormene slave traders when they first arrive or when they resist to Lord Bern's commands once he's in power, I could deal with that (I still wouldn't be 100% okay with it, but I could understand).

4) One of the main points of the book is still there: Aslan brought Lucy and Edmund back to Narnia so they could be tested and he brought Estace along so he could learn a lesson.

5) As always, I enjoy the art direction of the movies (if not always the promotion material). The ship looks great and unique, the costumes are great, the scenery (when there is one) is amazing. The Silver Sea, Dufflepuds' Island and the Edge of the World look much like I had imagined them.

6) The trailer DOES feel a little like the first trailer for LWW. If not original or unique, at least it keeps the look of the series somewhat consistent.

7) The trailer IS better than any of the trailers for the earlier HP movies (1-3) - not that it's hard to be better than those trailers. And I remember the taglines and teaser trailer for the first movie they exchanged directors looked especially choppy and lame (Prisoner of Azkahban/Something wicked this way comes). You almost couldn't tell what to expect from the movie, other than it was going to be a Harry Potter movie and that it was going to be darker:

It ended up being the most critically acclaimed movie in that franchise.

Conclusion:
I don't know. I won't judge what I see until I watch the whole finished movie. For now, nothing makes much sense. I have a strong feeling they're going out of their way to pander to the Potter fans this time around, more than ever before. Sometimes I wish Narnia had been made BEFORE Lord of the Rings, HP, Eragon and the rest. Then we wouldn't be spoiled the fun of seeing dragons, magic books, witches and epic battles on screen for the first time and we wouldn't have much to compare it against.

Posted : June 17, 2010 4:47 am
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Whose day is ruined? I'm still looking forward to seeing the movie, and I will probably like it. But if this trailer is any indication (and trailers are supposed to be indications), then major changes have been made to the story.

Well, your day may not be ruined, but from the sounds of it, a lot of other people's days have. I'm trying to encourage them.

A lot of assumptions are being made about what the images mean. I don't like the scene with the White Witch, for instance, but her entire appearance in the film may be not much longer than what's seen there. Peter and Susan? I'm guessing a flashback at the beginning of the film, to remind us of the Pevensies' previous adventures. There may, in fact, be major changes, but I don't think this trailer conclusively proves that.


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Posted : June 17, 2010 4:57 am
Linus the True
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All I want to say right now is that although I think Susan is very pretty, she is not beautiful beyond the lot of mortals and that's how I want Lucy to look like--much more beautiful than Susan.

But what, exactly, does "beautiful beyond the lot of mortals" mean? None of us have ever seen anything like that. Lewis can describe it in a book and we can all imagine what that looks like for ourselves. In a film, it has to be shown.

That whole scene is about Lucy's temptation to jealously take away all of the attention that Susan gets for being so pretty. What better way to illustrate that than by having her look as pretty as Susan herself? Showing some random pretty woman in the reflection would still not be someone beautiful beyond the lot of mortals, and it would miss the emotional connection created with Susan.

And it's only better dramatic irony that Lucy is, in fact, quite pretty. She's hard on herself the way we're all hard on ourselves, when we compare ourselves negatively to our siblings, our friends, or celebrities we see on TV. I think that's a pretty universal feeling.

It's like the scene in LWW when Mr. Tumnus plays the flute. Lewis describes it as a melody more beautiful than anything we've ever heard on this earth. When we hear it in the movie - well, it's pretty, but there's no way it could ever live up to the tune in our imaginations. For the movie, the filmmakers just had to pick a nice melody and go with it.

Again, I'm not trying to argue so much as encourage you that, when we see the final product, the filmmakers' choices may make more sense. :)


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Posted : June 17, 2010 5:07 am
mm1991
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There wasn't enough of Eustace in there, which is what I really wanted to see.

Actually, I had seriously low expectations for this trailer and it got surpassed. Now I think I can be optimistic about this film! :p

I also didn't like the line by Edmund, "I'm a king!". Please let us hope it's not PC Peter all over again.

But other than those things, I think the trailer was very good. It looks like it will be the best film yet

[Let us remember that this is just the TEASER trailer. Don't look into it THAT much. In teasers, they usually put in scenes they won't even use. They match up video and audio that aren't really together in the movie. A lot of work still isn't done yet. We can analyze and judge, but let's do it lightly, shall we?]

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Posted : June 17, 2010 5:09 am
Lirenel
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Luckily, I watched the trailer before reading the comments, so I was able to enjoy it. Despite the fact that I still can't make out what Lucy says when the painting starts leaking...

Honestly, though there are issues people have raised, I thought it was a good trailer. It definitely got me excited!

Of course, I'm intrigued to see the reasoning behind Edmund's enlisting and nightmare. For the enlisting, I'm definitely hoping it's not something like 'Peter enlisted and Edmund wants to join him'. Though, I kinda smiled because Edmund could totally pass at 18, and by 1943 (which I believe is when VODT takes place) I'm pretty sure the British weren't looking too closely at birth certificates. I did like that Edmund acted confident and not at all worried - if Lucy hadn't jumped in, I bet he could have gotten in.

As for the witch, I think people are forgetting that the Dark Island is a place where dreams literally come true. He's not being tempted by the Witch, he's seeing the manifestation of his nightmares. Just because he forwent the temptation, and defeated the witch does not mean that she can't haunt his nightmares, that he can't have nightmares where he gave in to her temptation instead of defying her. Heck, Narnians who probably never met the WW probably have nightmares about her - I have recurring nightmares of Nazis trying to kill me, and I can assure you I've never been attacked by Nazis in my life...they're just the monsters of my dreams.

So no, I'm not worried about the WW or her temptation being Edmund's nightmare. It's perfectly reasonable from a psychological point of view.

I loved Ramandu's Daughter (not ready to call her Lilliandil yet), didn't mind that she glowed because didn't she glow a little in the books? (maybe I'm remembering it wrong)

I'm a little more worried about Peter and Susan at the end of the world. If they have even the hint of Caspian looking at Susan longingly, I will scream. Loudly. Though, it would be nice if, instead of looking at the kings and queens, Caspian starts looking longingly back at the ocean, realizing he has started to fall in love with Ramandu's Daughter...

Anyway, I liked the trailer and am looking forward to more!


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Posted : June 17, 2010 5:13 am
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