The Pendragon: I don't know this for a fact, but I think you and I both converted everyone to Switchfoot!

I think so!

;)) Although it's really not "converting".. because it's not like anyone was anti-TAN before. More just like, getting people into the group because they saw TAN in my signature and weren't familiar with them.
Which I think is sort of the same with me and Switchfoot. I certainly never disliked SF, I just never bothered to listen to more of their stuff until other people mentioned them.

Haha, I definitely have NCD, then.

Yeah, it's not really "converting", but it's fun to say! I did convert though, cause I really didn't like them before! I totally juged Jon for having long hair. Oh, so terrible! very much ashamed of that now! & I thought that they were bad because they said that they weren't a "Christian" band. Wow, I was wrong! Glad I found out who they really are!

Um, about the Sf concert i missed, it's actually tonight. Hehe, . I don't know why I thought it was yesterday. I think I handled my grief pretty well. I watched Podcast 9 to cheer myself up!

We outghta start a Switchfoot club. Anybody game?

I'm in! Of course! What should it say? just "Proud member of the Switchfoot Club!". Or "I'm a Northie-Footer!"

EDIT: Kat, I bought the rest of Mmmhmm!!! Now I just have to listen to it!

lol I actually have their podcast now. They haven't done one in forever! Neither has RK. These bands need to keep up better

The Pendragon: lol, yeah, it is fun to say. Judging Jon for having long hair? I judge Ethan for having so many piercings and the rest of the guys for having tattoos... except Matt... he doesn't have either so I respect him more (well, kind of.) Relient K actually hasn't said they "weren't a 'Christian' band." Matt did say in an interview once, if he said they weren't a Christian band, that would be giving him an ego. I dunno what he meant by that... lol. I like this one thing Matt said in an interview about F&NSD:
"To what degree did prayer factor into this retreat of sorts?
Thiessen: It was huge. Because I was by myself, the only time I got to talk to anyone was when I prayed. A lot of lyrics normally come out of those times."
^ I thought that was cool.

Hmm, a while back(on the old NW) Edmund P started a Switchfoot club, but I dunno if he's still "head" of it. We should PM him.

I wish RK would do a new podcast too. Their last one is just the Cubin' with Schneck podcast.. which isn't bad.. but it's not terribly exciting I guess it kind of tells you everything about Schneck though.. all he ever posts on his facebook/twitter are things about cubing

"To what degree did prayer factor into this retreat of sorts?
Thiessen: It was huge. Because I was by myself, the only time I got to talk to anyone was when I prayed. A lot of lyrics normally come out of those times."
^ I thought that was cool.

That is cool!

Hmm, a while back(on the old NW) Edmund P started a Switchfoot club, but I dunno if he's still "head" of it. We should PM him.

I didn't know that, cool! We should Pm him then...

lol I actually have their podcast now. They haven't done one in forever! Neither has RK. These bands need to keep up better

Switchfoot is coming out with another one, & the ones they have are really good. & there's a A LOT of them, like 40 or something. I think my favorite is Podcast 19. When Tim & Drew try out for "Canadian Idol".

Judging Jon for having long hair? I judge Ethan for having so many piercings and the rest of the guys for having tattoos... except Matt... he doesn't have either so I respect him more (well, kind of.)

I know what you mean! it's kinda, distracting.... I like the fact that none of the guys in SF have any piercings or tattoos. Only long hair! Which they finally cut!

Hoopes has a tattoo ? I usually judge by how good the music is, not on how the people look. Tattoos and piercings aren't my favorite but their music more than makes up for it. But long hair is definitely not a problem. For me at least. Another reason why my mom thinks I like feminine guys, b/c I think long hair looks cool on them. Keep in mind I don't mean long long hair, but to the shoulders or so (depending on the cut) is cool. I also don't mind eyeliner on guys...sometimes

I liked "Cubin' w/ Schneck". Maybe it has to do with the fact that I'm also obsessed with the cube . But he's ahead of me in something- I still can't get the whole thing perfect . Hard thing to do until you figure it out...then it's easy as pie...

cool quote kat. i would love to have a nice conversation with him...about anything...and the rest of the band too

I usually judge by how good the music is, not on how the people look. Tattoos and piercings aren't my favorite but their music more than makes up for it. But long hair is definitely not a problem. For me at least.

Good for you! I learned my lesson!

Another reason why my mom thinks I like feminine guys, b/c I think long hair looks cool on them. Keep in mind I don't mean long long hair, but to the shoulders or so (depending on the cut) is cool. I also don't mind eyeliner on guys...sometimes

EYELINER?!?!?!? Okay, I seriously can't deal with that! Glad you can, but not for me! People on the old SF boards were talking about the guys hair, & getting really mad. So, Jon went on & said this:

"hello all,
Please stop talking about the hair thing. I mean no offence, I just find that the stuff that
grows out the top of my head is not worth much thought. What has everyone been reading/
thinking/dreaming about? What new band or idea is raising the hair on the back of your neck?
These conversations tend to be a bit more eternal somehow... The music is what brings us all
together here and these songs are life and death to me. Hair, quite honestly, is not.

thanks,
jon"

He made a good point! People get too wrapped up in what the person looks like, instead of their heart. Now, on the boards, "hair" is a bad word. So they say "Ha*r".

Lol, The Pendragon, I never saw that on the Switchfoot boards! Old boards as in ones that existed before the community.switchfoot ones, or those?
Yeah, I'm starting not to mind as much about their appearances because it is the music that matters more. But I guess mainly I'm concerned that when I get into a group my mom will look them up and then not like me listening to their music because the band members look questionable
GtG: Woops, you're right. Hoopes doesn't have a tattoo. I was just thinking 4/5 band members do but that was because I was thinking about how Dave had a tattoo, and he's not in the band anymore. So technically I guess 4/6... heh. John Warne has like a Phoenix on his arm or something...I didn't notice it for a really long time I actually kind of like Schneck's cross on his right wrist, cause you can always see it when he's playing guitar, lol.
Oh, and I'm also not an guyliner fan... blah. When I first saw a picture of Peter Furler I was appalled

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I didn't like it on Peter Furler really. But John Cooper from Skillet looks pretty cool with it and I couldn't imagine him without it. But I'm mailnly saying that I don't care if they do wear it, though I'm not gonna go up to one of my guy friends and say, "you should really put some guy-liner on. It would make your eyes looks so much prettier!"

Mmm yes I like Jon's tattoo. It's cool. I don't think I'd actually get any tattoos but some look good. But in small amounts. John Cooper from Skillet and his wife Korey actually have their wedding rings tattooed on. I thought that was pretty cool but I don't think I'd do it myself. John also has "Forgiven" written across his arm. I don't necessarily like big tattoos like that but it works on him. I don't think girls look that great with tattoos but on some guys, it's fine. I do with Ethan had less though. Everything in moderation . Mainly the thing I don't like about his tattoos is that there are so many and they're not really meaningful (from what I see at least). INO, I like Jon's cross and John C "Forgiven" better b/c they mean something. Roses and stuff all over your arms don't mean anything special...I guess...(btw, I thought John Warne had like an arm band thing...*shrugs*)

Cool TRS song. I have to listen to more of their music...

TP: lol that's funny. And a good point.

the only times I have seen eyeliner on guys and liked it are these people:

John Cooper
Peter Furler

I have seen guys totally misuse eyeliner (I won't mention names because I don't want to sound mean)!

oh well. I think John Cooper pulls it off really well.....it looks good on him!

The Pendragon
Are you on the SF boards??? I just joined. I'm pretty sure my username is Switchfoot_Freak or something like that lol. My avatar is the same as on here.

Jon's long hair never really bothered me. I actually kinda like it(please don't shoot me!).

Did anybody catch SF on Jimmy Kimmel live(or some other late night talk show) a few weeks back? I didn't see it live, but I did see the clip on youtube. I really can't believe the band can rock out that late at night!

Btw, I just heard 'Always' on the radio. I wasn't that big of a fan of the song, but it's really grown on me.

QueenSu: I will not shoot you! I like Jon's long hair too! it looks good on him!

as I mentioned before, I tend to like longer hair on guys, so I will most definetly not shoot you . I might join the SF boards too.

GTG: it costs $50 to join Switchfoot's fan club.....

I like long hair on guys.....sometimes. the lead singer of The Showdown should cut his hair! he looks like a girl..... but now that I have met the lead singer of The Classic Crime, I like his long hair.....

I KNOW! Why do you feel so obligated to tell me the cost of everything when I already know!? sheesh...and that's not even what I'm talking about anyway. You're talking about the fan club. I am talking about the boards. Community. Forum. Whatever you want to call it.

I really want this

http://www.christianbook.com/switchfoot ... ew=details

but it would cost just as much to get the deluxe version of HH, with TBL, 2LDMARB3D deluxe edition, and TB&TBS...so I'm opting with the second chioce...

GTG: oh! hey, I am just letting you know that joining fan clubs is SO expensive now! I have ot joined anybody's because of this!

I like John Cooper best with black hair. it used to be blonde, but I like it better black!