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The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring

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Meltintalle
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@twigs Yes! I was noticing the sly humour myself, mixed amid the vivid landscapes. (The examples at the forefront of my mind right now are from TT, when the Three Hunters enter Fangorn Forest.)

I finally made it through Moria. This time I was struck by the foreshadowing.

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The Mines of Moria
Sam and Aragorn both comment that it is not to be Gandalf's fate to be killed by orcs in the Wild. Since Aragorn had been through Moria, it's possible he had a foreboding that there was worse in there, but he seemed as surprised as anyone when the Balrog showed up.

 

We have hands that fashion and heads that know,
But our hearts we lost - how long ago! -- G. K. Chesterton

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Topic starter Posted : January 19, 2022 8:10 am
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SonofStone
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      One of my favorite things about the LOTR series is the fact that just in the way that I consider the LWW to be one of Lewis's most quintessential works, I consider the FotR to be one of Tolkien's most 'Tolkienish' books. I especially love the way in which he (Tolkien) spends 22 pages in chapter three catching the reader up on the Ring, Sauron and Gollum (arguably the most conflicted, complicated and interesting characters in Middle Earth). He does things like this all over the books, and its one reason why I like them so much.

      I also really enjoy reading over the section in which the Fellowship is deciding whether to head into Moria or to travel south and pass through the Gap of Rohan. I love the way Tolkien uses the dialog to give us a small glimpse into each character while they vote, and if you read that one section (about 4 pages) then you get a feel for each of the travelers in the Fellowship.

      @mel and @twigs, I totally agree, Tolkien is a serious(ish) writer, but he does use certain scenes and people to sneak in a laugh!

 

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Be watchful, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong. Let all that you do be done in love.
1 Corinthians 16:13-14

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Posted : January 23, 2022 1:06 pm
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Jasmine
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While I am a Lord of the Rings fan, probably one of the main issues I have with the books is the prologue in the first book. While it is a good set-up, it's really lengthy. I was like, "Please get on to the first chapter!"

 

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Posted : January 23, 2022 1:26 pm
Narnian78
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@jasmine_tarkheena 

Some people might see Tolkien’s slower pace of writing as a fault. He demands more patience from the reader than C. S. Lewis, who could tell a story in fewer words.  I would tell people that they just have to take their time with The Lord of the Rings.  The book isn’t boring, but it just demands more patience from the reader.  At least it is easier reading than The Fairie Queene by Edmund Spenser, which was a favorite of both Lewis and Tolkien.  Their tastes in literature were very old fashioned and medieval. 🙂

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Posted : January 23, 2022 4:27 pm
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Well, I have made it to Weathertop, but I have burning question from earlier in the story that I'm interested to poll you all on: What do you think of Tom Bombadil? Apparently he is a character that people either love or hate. But why?

On a similar topic, has anyone noticed the similarities between Tolkien putting Bombadil in LOTR and Lewis putting Father Christmas in LWW? Both were controversial inclusions. Both are jovial characters. Both could have been easily eliminated from the story if the author chose. Yet, there they are...

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Posted : January 25, 2022 11:26 pm
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Jasmine
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Posted by: @risto

Well, I have made it to Weathertop, but I have burning question from earlier in the story that I'm interested to poll you all on: What do you think of Tom Bombadil? Apparently he is a character that people either love or hate. But why?

I think a lot of hard-core Lord of the Rings fans were not happy that Tom Bombadil was cut out of the movie. I wonder if the series from Amazon is going to include him. I actually like the character. He doesn't have a very big role, but he is still iconic.

 

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Posted : January 26, 2022 11:22 am
coracle
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@Tom Bombadil is not mentioned in the Second Age material. The Amazon series takes place in the Second Age, whereas the Lord of the Rings is in the Third Age. Each age takes thousands of years.

Few of the familiar characters will be seen.

There, shining in the sunrise, larger than they had seen him before, shaking his mane (for it had apparently grown again) stood Aslan himself.
"...when a willing victim who had committed no treachery was killed in a traitor's stead, the Table would crack and Death itself would start working backwards."

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Posted : January 26, 2022 12:14 pm
Meltintalle
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I've always liked Tom Bombadil (and Goldberry Love and their house...!) He's just this thread of story that only briefly twines with that of the hobbits--rather like the fox in the Shire--and he's far enough away from the epicenter that the War of the Ring doesn't really touch him. And if you prefer for all your threads to Do Something Important, than I suppose he'd feel superfluous.

Another similarity between Tom Bombadil and Father Christmas is the giving of edged weapons as gifts, and both characters meet the main characters while they're fleeing the bad guys.

We have hands that fashion and heads that know,
But our hearts we lost - how long ago! -- G. K. Chesterton

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Topic starter Posted : January 26, 2022 6:27 pm
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I love the chapter "A Conspiracy Unmasked" It shows the loyalty of the hobbits as well as their fun-loving nature.

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A Conspiracy Unmasked
Merry especially shines in this chapter both in his ability to organize and to keep his mouth shut. I love that he was able to find out about Bilbo's ring and keep it a secret.

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Posted : February 1, 2022 4:56 pm
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