Ok I'm still in a HUGE state of shock right now. And I"m shaking. So hard I can barely type/ So please excuse any typos or stupid things I write.
My thoughts while watching the trailer:
1. Why is Edmund making me think of Peter in the beginning of PC?
2. Wow Lucy looks so much older! (which is a pretty good thing )
3. Painting! Amazing and...EUSTACE!!!
4. Wow totally great entrance in to Narnia
5. The Dawn Treader! Purple sail!
6. What the heck is bringing them on board of the Dawn Treader?
7. Aslan?!
8. Ooh bad minotaur CGI
9. Reepicheep...no noticeable difference.
10. mermaid!
11. Caspian!
12. Where is Eustace
13. Dark Island?
14. Coriakin?!
15. Yay Eustace!! At the dragon's cve?
16. No!! Edmund's dream?! And what's the green stuff?! and green eyes?! (ples no LotGK )
17. Awesome magic book scene!
18. RD!!! (correction: LILLIANDIL!!!)
19. glowing sword?
20. NO!! bright blue star
21. Cheesy tagline!!! Noo!!!
22. Nice fawn jumping skills again
23. Please tell me that's not Susan's bow
24. Cheesy tagline
25. wow that tree magician thing was so cool!
26. OH MY GOSH IT's THE DUFFLEPUDS!!!!
27. Lilies! Wait is that Caspian in the boat
28. WHERE ARE THEY AND WHY ARE PETER AND SUSAN THERE!!!???
29. Awesome logo- looks dragon-ish
P.S. - I love the sail!
P.P.S. - I'm surprised by all the negativity on here.
"Today you are you, that is truer than true. There is no one alive who is youer than you!"
- Dr. Seuss
Hey guys, I know I havent been on in forever, but I kind of have to voice my opinion on this. Well, I waited up until Midnight last night, only to discover I had another 2 hours (my time) to wait. So I really was hoping to get something better than this. Here's my review:
Well after I viewed this trailer, I wasnt in awe like even the Prince Caspian trailer made me feel, Prince Caspian and LWW, all managed to draw me in with their trailers, but for some reason when I watched it 20 or more times to try and catch everything in those quick shots, the trailer really started to get old. That's something that I never felt with LWW or PC. Now, regarding the movie as a movie and the trailer as a trailer. The general LOOK of this movie doesnt even Look like a Theatrical Movie to me, it doesnt look like Harry Potter or Lord of the Rings, heck it doesnt even look like a Narnia movie anymore. Now, not looking like a Narnia movie is not a problem at all, im all for new looks in the film business, the bad thing is, to me this looks like a Made for T.V. movie, and it's not because of the CGI. Several shots, for example the first look at the Dawn Treader after the painting transistion, it doesnt look like that shot should belong in a movie. Now, after watching this a few more times and thinking about it, I finally figured out what this really is...A Teaser Trailer. Except this isnt a good teaser trailer at all. It's one of those classic teaser trailers saying "Look, we've got a movie coming out! Here's some random shots thrown together for a sneak peek!" Every now and then a movie gets one of these. Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix is a good example of one of these, It's teaser didn't really say much about Plot, if you had no idea what Harry Potter was and no one told you anything about the plot, you'd have No clue what the movie was supposed to be about. This teaser trailer is that exactly, it doesn't show much of a plot or story. Now, personally it was good up until Edmund asks "Why Are We Here?" In a GOOD Trailer, you'd think they'd start discribing whats happening in the plot to ANSWER Edmund's question...however, in this trailer we basically get "If there's no war to fight, Why Are We Here?..............................." Thats the main problem with this trailer is the lack of plot or story, so now knowing what this trailer actually is, I'm not as disappointed as before.
Now, here I go through the trailer and talking about how stuff looks:
-The Opening Scene I actually like, I understand why he's enlisting. It actually makes a whole lot of sense. While it was funny, it wasnt "LOL" it was "Small Chuckle", then I the words "I'm a King" from Edmund and I was like Oh this AGAIN.
-The painting...I hate. The Dawn Treader is so ridiculously small in the background im surprised Edmund and Lucy dont need a magnifying glass to see it. The music here really makes no sense either. Now, the effect of the actually transistion to Narnia I LOVE. The water slowly starts seeping out through the sides, as you can see in the close up and then, it starts coming out more and more and more. I love how the water only coming from the ocean part of the painting. Eustace taking it off was good too, and I really like the change on how they get sucked into Narnia, it definately beats the effect BBC did.
-Boarding the Dawn Treader- I think it looks alright, the trailer starts building they reintroduce characters, including a VERY Izzard sounding Reepiceep (GREAT job on the recast) ,but missing Caspian, who without seeing the Previous installments would think he's just some random dude and then, you expect the trailer to kick off right after Edmund asks "Why are we here?" But this is where the trailer totally loses my appeal
-This is where the "Montage" begins and I really dont want to comment on any of this...The CGI is bad, except for Aslan however who I found better looking then Prince Caspian (which IMO has an extremely fake Aslan) however, wasnt he like HUGE in Prince Caspian? Now, he's shorter then Lucy?? Anyway, the main thing the need to work on these next 4 or 5 months is the CGI, that needs some Major work. Other than that I guess everything looks decent, but it so looks like they're trying to turn Lucy into Susan. Another reason I hate this trailer is the extremely CHEAP speed up effects they decide to randomly use, that really makes the Movie look terrible IMO, and I really dont know why trailer feel the need to do it at all.
-Regarding the Pevensies Epic Walk at the end of the trailer: I have a MAJOR problem seeing Peter and Susan in Narnian clothes walking in the same place as Lucy and Edmund. Now, one theory is that it's a flashback. 2 Problems with that: 1.) A flashback to what (or of what)? 2.) Edmund and Lucy are wearing their current clohes for VoDt. Now, I do have a theory what if they're like trying to show that Edmund and Lucy are now in the same place Susan and Peter were in PC (That they wont be returning to Narnia) and they do like a Fade shot like they show Susan walking and it turns into Lucy and they show Peter walking and it turns into Edmund. That is the ONLY theory I can come up with to explain this.
Those, are basically my issues with this trailer, I sure hope it's just the trailer and how early they are into finishing the film, because in that case I sincerely hope the Theatrical Trailer actually has a plot line.
Favorite Scene: "This place just gets weirder and weirder!"
Second favorite: ...The Painting Transition
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What was good:
The picture was pretty cool
I'm in love with that ship, can I have one?
Reepicheep is perfect, no noticeable difference except he sounds nobler.
The mermaid (maybe that's what she is) is pretty awesome
Caspian is looking good.
The book of spells actually looks really good as a whole. Lots of little elements.
I really like Reepicheep's line, it may be the best in the trailer.
The golden lampost on the Dawn Treader looks very cool, I really like it.
Laura really makes a fantastic Liliandil.
The faun is pretty awesome.
For sure, that's Susan's bow, but Caspian brought Lucy's gift, why not Susan's?
Lucy finally gets to fight something, that's super exciting.
I love the Dufflepuds, they are so funny
The lilies are amazing
What was not so good:
"I'm a king"
Joining the army? (Rationalize: maybe he's trying to get away from Eustace)
In the painting the ship looks too small
Aslan looks small, unimpressive
Is Coriakin screaming "Dumbledor" in everyone's mind too?
The Dark Island:
It seems oddly bright
doesn't feel very creepy
Almost looks like a cheesy scary movie
Can't Jadis say anything else?
blue, blue, blue
One very bright blue star (maybe she only looks that bad when the sun isn't up)
Rhindon looks to be infused with blue "Star Power"
Flaming ball of blue? Seriously overdone
There are so many things wrong with the end that I'm not sure where to start...
First of all what is Caspian doing there, and there are clearly 4 shadows while talking to Aslan
Susan should be in America.
Peter should be studying
Reepicheep should already be home
The logo looks too much like a scene out of POTC:AWE for my liking
I do love this trailer, but I keep remembering how badly this can turn out. I don't really have anything to say on that yet because I haven't seen it but it seems like every time news comes out I lose a little bit of hope in how good this move will actually turn out to be.
"And this marvel of all marvels, that he called me Beloved, me who am but as a dog-" -Emeth
lover of narnia, my friend, I'm so very happy to see someone so joyously optimistic here! I adored the trailer as well (though I think from the technical side it could be a tad better put together), even though it didn't mention much about the Lords. But it is a teaser, they're always limited by the amount of film material being ready for publicity, at least roughly finished.
SUSAN AND PETER WERE THERE!!!!!!! I am beyond happy about this!! They were most definitely in Narnian clothing walking on the beach with Lucy and Ed! I love this!! The movie people are making me extremely joyful! I to have secret ambitions and hope ( like susan and Caspian seeing each other again. That would be sweet!!!!) but like Beginte I don't want to get butchered. Susan and Peter are back.....I'll seal my lips until a later time.
Heh, what you spelled in tiny letters is not what I had in mind (though indeed that would be kind of a finishing touch to their bittersweet story) - I more thought in it being something like a tie to Last Battle, where we see all the characters again just to say goodbye. And so, we see Peter and Susan again, because it is time to say goodbye to all the Pevensies... heartbreaking but aesthetically a good idea.
I'm also thrilled - no, make that thrilled to see Caspian sailing to the end of the world! In the book, I always felt it was unfair to leave him behind, while he could turn back later and go back to the ship. I'm very happy to see him with Aslan and others, I always felt he got far too little credit and appreciation, below what he deserved, especially given his life story is probably one of the most tragical (innocently at that!) in the Chronicles.
Anyway, I'm waiting to see the whole film
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This final of the trailer is worrying me A LOT.
1. First, they put in their site (ok, I know it's a copy from narnia.wikia) that Lucy, Ed and Peter died. But they simply should not tell us that so early.
2. Then, the four Pevensies appear together, wearing Narnian clothes, in the same place.
3. At the End of the World, Aslan says to Ed, Eustace, Lu, Caspian and Rip that their adventure begins now.
Oh my God. All of these coincidences are making me feel sad.
But, for a pessimist I'm pretty optimistic, so:
1. Maybe the guys who designed the website simply don't know the story and no one warned them about that information.
2. Maybe it's just a flashback or even a dream. Or a spell. I would accept any of those options.
3. This still intrigues me. Why does Caspian go to the End of the World? He can't. He shouldn't. Will he sail back to the ship alone, using the coracle? Will he see Ed and Lu saying goodbye and Ripchip goind to Aslan's Country?
Will this be the end of the series? Oh my Aslan.
EDIT: The four Pevensies could be that wonderful story which Lucy reads on Coriakin's book.
man how frustrating was it to have been able to see the trailer but not be able to talk about it when you get to Narniaweb until the online trailer hits huh? huh?
anyway, THAT TRAILER ROCKS!!!! sure it was obvious the post production works wasnt quite done yet but so far the Fox promise is living up to the Narnian standards.
on first viewing my thought was "whoah there, everybody's back, and i mean EVERYBODY!" i know thats likely the first deviation from the book, but i figured so long as Peter and Susan stays as secondary characters and keep Edmund and Lucy as the lead i'm ok with that.
second surprise was how The White Witch figures in there, the lady just wont quit! again another deviation but this one i fully welcome-- i like that her role as this story's Lucifer that keeps tempting our Christ-like figure, she started with Edmund, then Peter, then Caspian and now she's back with Edmund. with this latest addition Edmund's plight with Jadis is mirroring the temptation of Christ in the dessert, just when he thought He's done with the devil, here he comes again with another offer at even worse point of His endurance.
i did notice that there was hardly any Eustace or Caspian in the trailer, other than the 1-2 second shots of them, so i'm hoping that come the succeeding trailers (or better yet, character trailers like what they did for Star Wars) will feature them in greater detail. we already know how cool Eustace is, but i'm half anticipating- half dreading the paler, more English sounding King Caspian, i mean really, when i walk into the theater i expect to see and hear King Caspian, not Ben Barnes in a fancy costume.
oh and looks like the Rheep voice-over switch isnt too jarring, i was worried about that. still dont understand the change from Izzard to Nighy, but it doesnt sound like its going to be as big of a consistency issue as i once thought.
lastly, looks like Gandalf lent Edmund his sword Glamdring i'm not upset (yet), but not quite thrilled about glowing Rhindon either.
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...the Telmarine who saved Narnia.
Yup! It seems strange to me how many people seem to forget about the whole episode between him and Caspian on the island. So I suppose Edmund's "I'm King" attitude is basis for the scene to happen in the film...
I think movie- Peter stole the attitude/ thunder from Endmund, only Peter's attidude was worse than what we saw from Ed in the book. I don't really have a huge issue with the whole power struggle idea. It is a bit annoying but it just feels natural to me.
I think they the feel of this power struggle could be different here. I think Edmund wants to help rather than be noticed and relive former glories. His "I'm a king" line feels a bit more like "I'm a king and kings shouldn't be helpless during a war" rather than "I'm a king and I deserve to be treated like royalty" I think it comes from feeling completely powerless rather than being power hungry and prideful.
I also think the Death Water thing could be done without damaging the character. In that it's more a thing of "don't treat me as small or inferior, Caspian! We are equals IF not, I am your superior. Whereas movie movie- Peter was more like "I am the boss! Step down and let the pros handle it Caspian. We're not equals. Your opinion doesn't matter at all."
As for Ed being tempted by the witch in a nightmare turned reality: As I have said before, the witch is a lot like satan to me. Raise your hand if you have only been tempted once or twice by satan, overcome it and are now living a temptation free life. If so, I would like to know you're secret. Satan is a defeated enemy, yet we fight him in our everyday lives. I think to some degree it's the same with the witch.
Defeated? Yes
Dead? Yes
Trouble: Yes.
I think there is hope, for those of you who didn't like PC, that this will not be a total repeat.
As for if they just have to put Tilda in SC, I would be ok if say, LotGK is calling up her spirit, CAN'T ACTUALLY BRING HER BACK BECAUSE SHE DOESN'T HAVE ADAM'S BLOOD, (Rillian wouldn't count, he's at least a quarter star) and maybe she looks up to WW because she was so powerful and consults her for advise & reports on any progress she is making with Rilian. That would be a good way of showing that LotGK is the same type of witch or from the same crew.
The trailer looks absolutely spectacular! It's made me so so excited for Christmas. Definitely epic!
I like the idea of bringing Peter and Susan back, but I am not sure how they've managed to do it. If they do it right it could be amazing!
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Okay, my thoughts on the trailer.
Pros:
- I love Eustace! (very uncommon thing for me to say)
- Lucy is just as I imagined her in all of the scenes
- The picture thingy is magnficent, with the water filling up the room
- Ramandu's daughter..er... Lilliandil is very gentle, pretty, and innocent
- The end of the world with the wall of water moving yet not going anywhere is very cool
- The Sea of Lillies is perfect
- Lucy and the Book of Spells, the entire part is just done so right. The beauty spell, Aslan's roar, the flipping of the pages, the snow falling, and the look on Lucy's face
- Eustace's line "This place just gets weirder and weirder."
Cons:
- Edmund acting like Peter in PC. Well...at least he didn't say, "I'm not a squirt. Take this! *punch*"
- The mermaid looking more like a dryad
- The "Fog" Island
- The Green White Witch and what she says to Edmund
- Edmund's blue sword "Hey, where are the orcs?"
Questions:
- Why does the fighting scene (with the faun) take place? It looks a bit like ruins, or a castle or something.
- Is Lilliandil a star too?
- What in the world are Peter and Susan doing there?
- What is Caspian doing in the boat that in the Sea of Lillies?
Comments:
- Eustace's voice is so much deeper than I thought
- There are no comments about the seven lord (or the swords)
- There are no shots of Eustace as a dragon or the Sea Serpent, which is was hoping for
- Nothing was said about the MLGael
All in all, I'm just not feeling the magic of Narnia in the trailer. Maybe if I watch it a few more times.
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Seems Caspian didn't lose only his accent but also his voice. He doesn't give a peep in that trailer.
I really like the trailer overall! Some of my thoughts:
~The music was upbeat-quite different from Prince Caspian (although I enjoyed that movie too).
~Wow Georgie Henley has really grown up!
~Will Poulter seems perfect for Eustace even in the one line we heard from him!
~I used to be a little concerned about Caspian's beard, but I think that I have gotten used to it. (BTW, did anyone else find it strange that Caspian did not even talk in the trailer?)
~I have to admit that I was happy to see Peter and Susan back, as long as they have a small part-they should not be a major part of the plot, but I would like them to have a small goodbye with Edmund and Lucy or something at the end. Or maybe that part is all a flashback...
Some of my concerns:
~Like others have said, Aslan seems a bit toned and less majestic than the last two movies. Maybe this is still going to be worked on in post production???
~During the opening sequence, Edmund reminded me of the Peter from Prince Caspian WAY too much with his whole "I'm a King" thing. But, I like the way that AslanIsOnTheMove explained this.
~I like this new music, but I also would like to hear a bit of the old "Narnia" theme. This is only a small trailer, so I will just have to wait for the movie. I guess since they changed composers it would make sense that the old theme would be gone too, but I will miss it...
~I also agree that some parts remind me of Harry Potter. Anyone think that the part with (green? I think) smoke just before the White Witch and Edmund was similar to Death Eaters traveling around in black smoke? And the part with Ramandu's Daughter turning into a star after talking to Caspian and Edmund looks eerily like some of the scenery in HP& The Goblet of Fire?
~Just a random thought, but the scene with the Dufflepuds reminds me of Charlie & the Chocolate Factory with the fake-looking greenery around it. I guess that part might be taken care of with more work on special effects.
Sorry this turned out kinda long
I’m SO excited about the movie! Or another trailer
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My first impressions (recorded last night):
gP, did you really seriously ever think that they would leave the Lone Islands scene alone? Hollywood doesn't want to present characters using their brains and coming up with clever plans. They think that the average movie-goer is interested in only one thing and that's EPIC battles.
I was actually thinking they just might this time, because this is a case where the whole point of the scene in the book is that Caspian and Bern are so clever in managing to take control of the islands with just one ship, haha.
If this turns out like I think it will, it will be one of the most irritating changes in the series so far. This isn't just adding or expanding on an action scene. It's adding an action scene in a scene where the whole point in the book is that they manage to avoid an action scene!
About the music that some people comment on...
Music for trailers and music for films are two entirely different things. You won't see the track from trailer on the film music CD (unless a part of the film's original score was used in the trailer). Trailer music is produced by such companies as X-Ray Dog, Two Steps From Hell, Pfeifer Broz. Music, Position Music and many others, and it is wonderfully adrenaline-rising, no?
Also, few people know this, but the characteristic theme that always played when the "The Chronicles of Narnia" title glided onto the screen, was not the work of brilliant Harry Gregson-Williams (I love him!!!), but actually the ending of a trailer score 'The Black Legend' by Immediate Music. This track was used in one of spots for PC, actually.
So yeah, just a little trivia... and I believe Harry Gregson-Williams is still the composer for VoDT (I think so and fiercely hope to be right!), so not much should change there.
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Having come back to the trailer after a day at work, i must say it doesn't look as bad as i recalled upon first viewing. I think the Digital Cinematography has a lot to do with that.
I remember back when we had a big debate about the decision to go with Digital rather than traditional film, alot of the key words that came up with regard to Digital's downside were phrases such as "jarring" "flat" "cheap looking" "fake" "harsh" etc. Thinking about it now, those were much of my exact thoughts when i watched the trailer this morning.
Like i said though, having had a while to grow accustomed to the digital image, much of it sits much better with me now, but i still do find the digital to be overall rather off putting in many places. I can't help but feel that if they had gone for the softer picture quality of real film, it would of made several scenes in this trailer look a lot better.