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decarus
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I agree that i would rather there be a causer behind the evil mist then just have there be just some evil mist hanging out. I really think it is necessary for there to be a cause because evil isn't just a thing that exists outside of a cause unless you consider free will the cause. Anyways.

Maybe the mist won't exactly be a monster, but will be like the dark island where it makes your nightmares come true in some way. Though it also seems to suggest that the missing people is also happening because of the mist.

I guess there are three ideas of who the causer could be behind the mist:

A)The Seven Lords. I have no idea what they would do that would cause this mist. I guess they could follow the blue ball of light like it seems those on the Dawn Treader might. Then they could do something that causes this mist to be released. I have no idea what.

B)The White Witch. I agree that this is the worst of the options. I dislike the idea of giving the white witch that sort of power as the sort of ultimate evil. It is just too much like evil as an external force instead of only existing within choice.

C)The Lady of the Green Kirtle. Like others have said it has been stated that this is not the case and that there is no 'new witch' in this film, so i that makes me think it is the least likely. I actually don't think it seems unreasonable to in some way make a connection to the Silver Chair, but i am not sure how that would work. I don't want the Lady of the Green Kirtle in the film though.

I have gone on too long so i will now stop.

There are no clouds in the sky. There is only the open sun and the Lord watches.

Posted : July 12, 2010 7:28 pm
coracle
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The whole idea of the beautiful blue fairy lady is too much like "A.I" and its Pinocchio motif.
But before we find too many other parallels, let's remember that European fairy tale and myth has many conventions and motifs that are repeated over and over. Tolkien in "On Fairy Tales" describes it as a pot of soup with lots of ingredients, and every time the ladle goes in it brings out a different selection of vege pieces etc.

But there are some really way-out things suggested in this thread! :-s 8-|

There, shining in the sunrise, larger than they had seen him before, shaking his mane (for it had apparently grown again) stood Aslan himself.
"...when a willing victim who had committed no treachery was killed in a traitor's stead, the Table would crack and Death itself would start working backwards."

Posted : July 12, 2010 10:53 pm
Glumpuddle
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This really is the Production of the Weird! Obviously we heard about changes in PC that made us nervous, but I don't recall ever being totally weirded out.

I put together a compilation of all available evidence on what the new added plot for the movie may possibly be given what we know so far over on this topic here, and yeah, it pretty much does suggest that! (though not in quite such words ;) )

Very nice list.

I dunno, with many sources of the info being weird quotes and synopsis' that may or may not be accurate, I'm very reluctant to even call that theory "likley" until we get more concrete info. One synopsis also said there would be "magical Dufflepuds," but is anyone really worried about the Dufflepuds having magical powers?

I'm not saying it can't be true. But I need to see more before I start even getting worried about such a crazy scenario.


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Posted : July 13, 2010 6:56 am
Lady Galadriel
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This really is the Production of the Weird! Obviously we heard about changes in PC that made us nervous, but I don't recall ever being totally weirded out.

Even the Suspian kiss? :- :p I wasn't here for PC, but I thought that the fans found out about that.

I'd like to point out something that I found is a bit interesting. It is from the chapter on the Dark Island in the book VODT. Notice the references to mist.

Next morning the weather was fair but a flat calm. The dark mass lay ahead, much nearer and larger, but still very dim, so that some thought it was still a long way off and others thought they were running into a mist.

About nine that morning, very suddenly, it as so close that they could see that it was not land at all, nor even, in an ordinary sense, a mist. It was a Darkness. It is rather hard to describe, but you will see what it was like if you imagine yourself looking into the mouth of a railway tunnel--a tunnel either so long or so twisty that you cannot see the light at the far end. And you know what it would be like. For a few feet you would see the rails and sleepers and gravel in broad daylight; then there would come a place where they were in twilight; and then, pretty suddenly, but of course without a sharp dividing line, they would vanish altogether into smooth, solid blackness. It was just so here. For a few feet in front on their bows they could see the swell of the bright greenish-blue water. Beyond that, you could see the water looking pale and grey as it would look late in the evening. But beyond that again, utter blackness as if they had come to the edge of moonless and starless night.

Now, I know there's no mention of EVIL mist :p, but I thought it interesting that descriptions of the Dark Island mention that at first they thought there was mist. This must be where the movie got the idea of mist. :p

Posted : July 13, 2010 7:28 am
AslanIsOnTheMove
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What else would you call such a darkness? Maybe a cloud of darkness. Perhaps they just couldn't think of a better word to decribe it. I think I would be ok without an evil behind the "mist". The book never gave the origin of Dark Island. Perhaps this whole "fate of Narnia" & "Evil Mist" stuff is just Dark Island on steroids. The Dark Island part in the book left a lot up to the imagination. Where did it come from? Just how dangerous is it?

It is the Island where nightmares come true. Maybe Caspian's worst nightmare is that Narnia is swallowed up in a giant black vortex of doom, Edmund steals Sting, he himself marries a talking night light, Susan comes back and sees him with the night light and Peter steals what's left of Narnia from him. =))

Seriously though, perhaps Dark Island expands or moves and that's all they've changed about it. If something that caused nightmares to become reality reached Narnia or any other place it would be terrible to say the least. Can you imagine an entire people whose nightmares were real? That could easily wipe out a nation. That could explain the missing people. Anything can happen in nightmares gone wild.

As we don't know much about Dark Island we don't really know what would stop it. Maybe something to do with the swords. (OR ASLAN DUH) But perhaps Aslan wants them to go through this testing and so he won't just stop it all with a roar or something.

Posted : July 13, 2010 8:34 am
Glumpuddle
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It is the Island where nightmares come true. Maybe Caspian's worst nightmare is that Narnia is swallowed up in a giant black vortex of doom, Edmund steals Sting, he himself marries a talking night light, Susan comes back and sees him with the night light and Peter steals what's left of Narnia from him. =))

Shhh! Don't give them any ideas. We joked about a Caspian/Susan romance long before the movie came out, and paid the price for it.


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Posted : July 13, 2010 8:46 am
decarus
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I dunno, with many sources of the info being weird quotes and synopsis' that may or may not be accurate, I'm very reluctant to even call that theory "likley" until we get more concrete info. One synopsis also said there would be "magical Dufflepuds," but is anyone really worried about the Dufflepuds having magical powers?

They may be called magical dufflepuds simple because of the fact that they hop around on one foot and are invisible. I don't think that necessarily has to mean that they have magical powers of their own.

There are no clouds in the sky. There is only the open sun and the Lord watches.

Posted : July 13, 2010 8:48 am
icarus
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NarniaWeb Guru

I pulled a couple of quotes here from glumPuddle and Lady Galadriel over into the "Seven Swords Plot Line" thread, as i felt it was a bit more relevant to the discussion going on there, rather than over here being about the trailer. :)

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1441&p=84742#p84742

Posted : July 13, 2010 9:31 am
Liberty Hoffman
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I am going to watch the trailer every day until December 10, 2010! :D


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Born in the water
Take quick to the trees
I want all that You are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EADBC57vKfQ

Posted : July 13, 2010 10:09 am
Josh
 Josh
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Shhh! Don't give them any ideas. We joked about a Caspian/Susan romance long before the movie came out, and paid the price for it.

You know what, the mention of Susaspian may be tied to the final shot of the Pevensies in the trailer.

What if Lilliandil was on the Dark Island, and her nightmare was Susan reuniting with Caspian! Could there be anything more horrific?

Winter Is Coming

Posted : July 13, 2010 11:53 am
AslanIsOnTheMove
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It is the Island where nightmares come true. Maybe Caspian's worst nightmare is that Narnia is swallowed up in a giant black vortex of doom, Edmund steals Sting, he himself marries a talking night light, Susan comes back and sees him with the night light and Peter steals what's left of Narnia from him. =))

Shhh! Don't give them any ideas. We joked about a Caspian/Susan romance long before the movie came out, and paid the price for it.

I'm not terribly worried about giving them ideas since the movie is already filmed and such. ;)

I dunno, with many sources of the info being weird quotes and synopsis' that may or may not be accurate, I'm very reluctant to even call that theory "likley" until we get more concrete info. One synopsis also said there would be "magical Dufflepuds," but is anyone really worried about the Dufflepuds having magical powers?

And no one's worried by the fact that Caspian is called PRINCE Caspian in at least one synopsis. That dosn't mean Miraz is back and Caspian is no longer king or anything. It just means the synopsis is flawed and shouldn't be taken too seriously.

Posted : July 13, 2010 2:21 pm
Glumpuddle
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News Poster, Podcast Producer

They may be called magical dufflepuds simple because of the fact that they hop around on one foot and are invisible. I don't think that necessarily has to mean that they have magical powers of their own.

My point exactly. You have to be careful about analyzing what a synopsis says too closely.


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Posted : July 13, 2010 7:09 pm
HighQueen_Of_LanternWaste
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NarniaWeb Nut

Too many potential theories! I'm trying to put all of everyone's ideas and some of my own together to form one single plot, but it's just all too strange. I'll post up when I've finally gathered my thoughts!

Why is everything so confusing with this production?


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Posted : July 13, 2010 9:37 pm
coracle
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NarniaWeb's Auntie Moderator

I think the reason for calling them "magical Dufflepuds" is that they have all been affected by a magic spell!!! /:)

There, shining in the sunrise, larger than they had seen him before, shaking his mane (for it had apparently grown again) stood Aslan himself.
"...when a willing victim who had committed no treachery was killed in a traitor's stead, the Table would crack and Death itself would start working backwards."

Posted : July 13, 2010 9:53 pm
decarus
(@decarus)
NarniaWeb Junkie

My point exactly. You have to be careful about analyzing what a synopsis says too closely.

I agree though the idea that the darkness is the evil and that it could move around didn't really come to me from reading synopsis. I do agree we need to see more, but i think that this theory fits with what we know.

PS. And then everyone can freak out.

There are no clouds in the sky. There is only the open sun and the Lord watches.

Posted : July 14, 2010 1:32 am
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