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Warrior 4 Jesus
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Sure some of the CGI was bad but to say it was all bad or mostly bad is just pessimistic and not realistic in the least. Also, how does Aslan look bad in the first scene. He looks fine. I think some of you are taking great CGI for granted and anything less is considered to be rubbish.

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Posted : June 16, 2010 10:52 pm
IloveFauns
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The ship looks a bit fakeish but other then that I am happy. I really liked the pianting scene to.

Posted : June 16, 2010 11:05 pm
DamselJillPole
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Aslan in the mirror sort of looked like the BBC Aslan to me. But in the other parts I thought he looked amazing! ;)


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Posted : June 16, 2010 11:05 pm
Bookwyrm
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I'm really not sure what to think right now. Some parts I really liked, even loved and some made me borderline irate. I'm not encouraged by the trailer and I'm not discouraged, I'm just really confused. /:) :-s

I don't mind Edmund trying to enlist. It feels Edmund-y, wanting to do his part, help save his country. I don't think he wants to join because he thinks it'll be fun; he's been to war and knows better. But Lucy breaking in and making him look stupid didn't feel Lucy-ish to me. I can't help but think she would have more tact and concern for her brother's feelings.

Hate the whiny Edmund "I'm a king!" lines. If they take him the route they took Peter, I will be furious. Bad enough they made Peter into a angsty little git, but if they do the same to Edmund I just might burst into tears in the theatre.

For some reason Georgie sounds a lot like Emma Watson in the first bits. ;))

The scene with the painting is brilliant. This is an example of a change from the book I can endorse completely. The CGI on the painting is a little shaky, but doesn't look awful.

The Dawn Treader is looking much better than it did in all those pictures we saw. Not quite as gaudy-looking and the sail is absolutely beautiful.

Aslan looks smaller and not as Aslan-y. He also looks a great deal faker than he's ever looked before. Also, why is he on the ship?!?!?! At the beginning?!?!?!

Minotaur looks awful. For my sanity's sake, I guess I'm just going to assume that all CGI is unfinished and that's why it looks bad.

Reep sounds very similar to his old voice, assuming this is Bill Nighy's voice. If he sounds like that consistently, I don't think the average movie goer will even notice the switch from Eddie Izzard to Bill Nighy.

The mer girl is in! Different looking from the book, but I'm glad she's in there. :)

Poor Caspian, never gets to say anything in this trailer. He looks very kingly though and a lot more grown-up.

If that's the Dark Island, it looks just plain wrong. Looks like a really smoggy day in China to me. :P

I liked Edmund's line about why are they in Narnia. No wars! Yay!

Coriakin and his magic scroll thing are ... odd. Not sure what's going on there. Is that his voice speaking the lines about tests? Not sure I like the sound of that.

What is Eustace doing? ;))

The WW sequence looks terrible. If that's the Dark Island scene, I'm going to be severely annoyed. If it's just a nightmare, I guess I can handle her appearance, but if that's her actual ghost I just might pitch my popcorn bucket at the screen. Edmund destroyed her in the last movie, she's not gonna try to tempt him again. He's proven he can't be tempted by her. They change that and they'll have destroyed all his character development over the last two movies. Like others have said, the greenish tinge to her makes me nervous. There is nothing they can do to redeem SC for me if they make her the LotGK. I will be done. Oh, and the smokey streamer things look stupid. :P

The magician's book and the beauty spell sequence is perfect. Love this part. My theory on the snow is that they've decided the eavesdropping spell is too difficult to do and they've cut it in favor for Lucy conjuring up snow. You can probably forget as well Lucy reading the story she could never quite remember afterwards.

More annoying voiceover lines. Destiny, blah blah blah. Put a sock in it, Darth Vader wannabe. :P

Reep looks cute climbing the mast.

Ramandu's Daughter looks terrible. I was hoping for a gentle blue-ish glow reminiscent of Galadriel and Arwen, not the neon star glow of doom. It is not flattering at all. Is she supposed to be a blue dwarf? :P And cheesy lines FTL.

Rhindon glowing pretty much the exact shade of blue as Sting? Oh yay! Yet another thing for the LotR uber-fanboys to mock.

There's definitely English letters on the stones behind Ramandu's Daughter. Possibly COG [stuff hidden by people] OTUS MAR? Strange. Oh, and Ramandu's Daughter turns into a star at will? Geez, way to toss all the mythology about Narnian stars into the dumpster people. :P

Mandatory EPIC! battle scene. All of you who doubted they would do this, I told you so. :P Lucy is using Susan's bow. I'm okay with this, she did ride to battle as an archer in HHB.

Apparently Coriakin is in the room with Lucy when she removes the invisibility spell. Okay with this as well and the appearing effect is nicely understated. No magic sparkles or anything.

Love Eustace and the Dufflepuds. Perfect line, great execution of a creature we thought might look bad.

The sea of lilies is beautiful. :D Apparently Caspian goes with them. I'm okay with that, maybe they've moved Caspian's talk with Aslan to the good-bye scene. Cheesy voiceover by Aslan, but they always give him the worst lines. I'm hoping the bits about "Your adventure is just beginning." only means something like their adventure on Earth. It could fit with the "I have another name." bit.

And now we get to the part that made me irate. Peter and Susan ARE NOT IN FREAKING NARNIA IN THIS MOVIE!!!!!!! If they've changed this, I will be furious. If this is a not a flashback or a dream or a memory or a nightmare, they've set Aslan up to look like a great big flip-flopper who randomly and capriciously changes his mind about things.

Typical, Aslan roars at the end. This is becoming a cliche.

I sure hope we get more info soon because this trailer did nothing to answer questions or settle anxieties. Interesting that Gael has no presence in the trailer and neither do the swords or the lords. And really, it told us nothing about the plot. Seems kind of a fail on promotion, honestly.

Posted : June 16, 2010 11:12 pm
coracle
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I am happy with a number of aspects of this trailer, and this number increases every time I watch it. :)

Aslan in the mirror - he clearly can't fit on board, so he turns up in symbolic or reflected ways.
Lucy turning into Susan - she sees her own beauty just before she looks like Susan and is no longer happy. Clearly copying her big sister is a temptation but not a good idea.
Voices - maybe Nighey was asked to keep the voice similar to PC? Lucy while looking at the picture - she is not supposed to be happy, but is feeling flat and miserable at the start of a summer in the Scrubbs' house, using their spare bedroom/boxroom. And don't forget that what you hear in a trailer may not be in the final film at all, or not said that way.
Effects - so much more to do, let's not get our sea-trousers in a knot!

There, shining in the sunrise, larger than they had seen him before, shaking his mane (for it had apparently grown again) stood Aslan himself.
"...when a willing victim who had committed no treachery was killed in a traitor's stead, the Table would crack and Death itself would start working backwards."

Posted : June 16, 2010 11:23 pm
Glumpuddle
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The White Witch is green!! Tell me this isn't going where I think it's going! Are they setting her up to appear as the LotGK in SC? Someone slap me!

As a piece of marketing... I can't think of anything very positive to say about this trailer. It looks boring and gimmicky. It nails every trailer cliche.

As for the movie itself.... I'm not feeling any better about the movie. I think I'm feeling a little worse. After seeing the LWW and PC trailers, I had some issues of course, but overall I felt better.


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Posted : June 16, 2010 11:29 pm
Warrior 4 Jesus
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Teaser trailers rarely provide context, that's what the actual trailer is for (or better yet, the movie).
The battle scene doesn't look epic at all. It looks like a faun beating up a few men. I think the battle nay-sayers are having a field day when there's none to be found.

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Posted : June 16, 2010 11:31 pm
decarus
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I think it is worse that Caspian would be in Aslan's country at the end then Peter and Susan. I never really considered Aslan's country as part of Narnia.

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Posted : June 16, 2010 11:35 pm
Bookwyrm
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It's mostly her eyes, gP, but there's definite greenage there. You're all welcome to speculate why they would choose to tint her this color considering the angsting we've done over the possibility of Tilda playing the LotGK. I think I'm pretty much going with the worst case scenario that they're setting up for her return in SC. I hope I'm wrong, but I really don't trust them given their enamorement with Tilda as Jadis.

I doubt we'll be seeing Aslan's Country in this movie. I suspect the waters rolling back just serves as a replacement for the door in the sky.

Posted : June 16, 2010 11:41 pm
Glumpuddle
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The shot of the faun flipping makes it look like they have indeed made an action sequence out of freeing the slaves...
When the whole point of that scene in the book is that they actually manage to avoid that. That's what makes it a great scene.


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Posted : June 16, 2010 11:42 pm
Reepi
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In Addition to Jadis' eyes I want to note the fog in the dark Island is also green, and in the far view from the dark island, green spots are there throughout.
I speculate they will make the Dark Island the Lady of the Green Kirtle's doing for some reason?

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Posted : June 16, 2010 11:48 pm
White Wizard
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It is very cruel that Tilda Swinton was actually born with green eyes...

In the Alice in Wonderland films they have a habit of combining Queens, mainly the Queen of Hearts and the Red Queen. Let's just hope the Narnia film makers don't act in a similiar way.

Posted : June 16, 2010 11:53 pm
Bookwyrm
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gP, did you really seriously ever think that they would leave the Lone Islands scene alone? Hollywood doesn't want to present characters using their brains and coming up with clever plans. They think that the average movie-goer is interested in only one thing and that's EPIC battles. Cleverness need not apply when it can be replaced by brawn. So I'd be willing to bet that the sea serpent will be killed, not outwitted. If members of the crew are captured by the slavers, they won't be rescued by Bern buying them, they'll be saved by a fight scene.

Posted : June 16, 2010 11:57 pm
AslanIsOnTheMove
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Overall I am EXTREMELY EXCITED :D !!!!!!!! I love most everything about the trailer!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have watched it many times now, wasn't counting.

I suspect they aren't showing things they feel may upset the veiwers. I think they purposely aren't doing anything where Caspian has any dialogue because that might damage the continuity for some. I don't think they want to do that just yet.

I suspect they aren't showing Gael because that may upset some Narnia fans. In a way it's a first impression and I believe they're aiming to make it a positive one. As far as I'm concerned they've succeeded:D

I will say what I've said in another thread though. I really hope Caspian doesn't need all the lights off in order to sleep at night, otherwise Lilliandil may cause a few problems. ;))

Posted : June 17, 2010 12:19 am
DamselJillPole
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I suspect they aren't showing things they feel may upset the veiwers. I think they purposely aren't doing anything where Caspian has any dialogue because that might damage the continuity for some. I don't think they want to do that just yet.

I suspect they aren't showing Gael because that may upset some Narnia fans. In a way it's a first impression and I believe they're aiming to make it a positive one. As far as I'm concerned they've succeeded:D

I would have rather saw Gael then Peter and Susan in Narnian clothes. This will upset and confuse a lot of fans out there.

I really hope Caspian doesn't need all the lights off in order to sleep at night, otherwise Lilliandil may cause a few problems. ;))

Lol!! =)) that's funny AIOTM!!


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Posted : June 17, 2010 12:24 am
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