So I was thinking about the WW scene. If it's on Dark Island and it's a nightmare of Edmunds, perhaps it reminds him of the traiter he was. If they have rearranged the islands and Eustace hasn't been undragined yet, the LWW scene could be a nice build up to Ed's talk with Eutace about being a traiter. We could see how much he regrets that and how he still thinks about it. It might make the scene with Eutace even more touching, which IMO would be worth seeing the white witch for a very short time.
Ooh. I just remembered something I thought of. In the podcast they suggested that perhaps they have cut out Ramandu's character. This seems to me to be a very real and possible assumption. It also seems realistic to assume that they've therefore gotten rid of his island and Lilliandil has taken his place as a star. Why else would she be a star? I also wondered if perhaps she is all glowy and starlike at night and a normal person during the day. This would explain to me how Caspian has a chance with her (assuming he still does!) * cringe *
Just my two cents worth.
AslanIsOnTheMove That is an excellent suggestion. That would definitely make the scene more touching and I can imagine them doing that.
One more thing (I know, again). Gymfan mentioned there had been a Gael sighting. I tried but I couldn't see her, I couldn't even see Lucy. Would someone mind pointing it out?
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I love your theory on that AslanIsOnTheMove! Perhaps once being a traitor to Narnia is something Edmund will never forget and will always haunt him no matter what the circumstances. It could be why he still had nightmares of that moment.
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I don't think there is going to be an Eustace/Edmund talk alone without the others. The timeline seems very changed in the film and that was all done in flashback. Who knows.
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So I was thinking about the WW scene. If it's on Dark Island and it's a nightmare of Edmunds, perhaps it reminds him of the traiter he was. If they have rearranged the islands and Eustace hasn't been undragined yet, the LWW scene could be a nice build up to Ed's talk with Eutace about being a traiter. We could see how much he regrets that and how he still thinks about it. It might make the scene with Eutace even more touching, which IMO would be worth seeing the white witch for a very short time.
Oh, I hope, hope, HOPE, that is the reason she is there! I know the trailer didn't make it look that way, but trailers can be very deceiving.
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Jadis' eyes have been green since The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. If her eyes being green in The Voyage of the Dawn Treader are foreshadowing of Certain Doom to Come, then someone should have rung some warning bells way back when Tilda Swinton was cast. Her eyes are actually green.
Thanks, that's a relief. I hadn't realized that! Though I do think they are unnaturally green, I could easily imagine the green Malevolent Mist magically bringing out the green in her eyes! It could tend to make all apparitions green and white...
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I thought Tilda's eye color was blue, at least a recent photoshoot looks like her eyes are very light. In the trailer they were dark green. Yes I do agree that they look very unnatural in the trailer and seems to be done on purpose. We'll wait and see I guess.
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To be honest, I would say Tilda's eyes are green but they accentuated them to make it look otherworldly and creepy and it would stand out/match the green mist. Good point too quertykate88
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In the podcast Gymfan mentioned the time period has changed which I hadn't noticed but of course that makes sense and explains it but confuses everything else. Of course Peter's not going to be studying in such a time and Susan's not going to be waltzing off to America (at least it's not likely).
I'm really confused about the whole change in the timeline thing. According to the Narnian Timeline, LWW is set in 1940, PC in 1941, and VDT in 1942. Unless I'm seriously mistaken, WWII was still going on in 1942 so that means that their father had a lecture tour in America and Peter was studying during the War. (Although he would have been 16 at that time in the book instead of however old he is supposed to be in the movie.)
Does the Lady of the Green Kirtle even have green eyes? I think of green more as the color she wears and the color of the snake than having to do with her eye color. I would agree that Tilda's eyes are green to begin with but the color is changed in the shot from the trailer.
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Yes, World War 2 was from 1939-1945. I'm not sure why people say the war was over. If VDT was set in 1942, it was definitely still going.
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I think the problem is that when Lewis was writing the books, he lost track of the time period. I'm fairly sure there's a comment in VDT about the War being long ago. If all the rumors about him wanting to edit the books are true, I suspect this is one of the things he would have corrected.
But when did the air raids stop in England? Was it always going on throughout World War 2. The only book was LB when the war was over.
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I believe there has always been some question over when VODT takes place. It never really mentions it in the book, but the official timeline says 1942 (I thought originally it was 1943, but I looked again and it said 1942) so that's what I usually go with, even though it makes no sense for Mr. Pevensie to take his wife and daughter over the Atlantic to America when U-Boats are patrolling still. I believe there's actually more controversy over the Last Battle being in 1949, with some people believing that they just read Lewis's handwriting wrong and he meant 1943. However, if I remember correctly I think VODT does say that it's only been a year for Edmund and Lucy since the events of PC which, if that took place in 1941, meant that VODT was during 1942.
Hmm, guess there's no good answer. But I still go with 1942 as when VODT takes place. Obviously the movie takes place during the war, since they're recruiting, so I guess that's what matters for this thread.
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They had planes in the 1940's I'm sure MR. Pevensie paid to get his family on one. Then again there were many ships that took off from England to America with passengers on board in the early 40's as well.
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There were no passenger planes during the war. Aircraft was improved largely because of the war and passenger planes did not become a thing until after the end of the war. I think it makes sense that people would be trying to send their families to America for safety.
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