I'm pretty sure I remember Lucy having a bit of a crush on Caspian in the book. Am I correct or imagining this? It was nothing suspect, just something realistic and harmless.

Although never mentioned in the book I got that same impression, too. If you read between the lines you can get that feeling, yes.

^^ Ditto I was the same way during the book. That was why I wanted Lucian before Caspian married RD in the book. But I do love Caspian/Lilliandil.

I didn't see lucy grip a page out in the Magician's book, i have to go back and see that. I wonder if it was the beauty spell

I had to look twice, too, DamselJillPole. But she does hold something in her right hand (the left one from our point of view ). Looks very much like a book page.

Yes it does 100.0%. I want to see if the top of that page is the same from the beauty spell. From my point it really does

Edit: Yeppers it is most definitely the Beauty Spell page. She wasn't holding on to it when she flipped onto the beauty page and it was in her hand as if she had just got done taking it from the book and then the roar of Aslan came along with the flipping of the pages. It made sense like that.

Let me reassure you on two points:

1. No, she didn't have a crush on Caspian in the book: she was 10 at the time, still a child, and he was nearly twice her age and practically grown up. She was a sensible child of her day.

2. We have had a good assurance from a reliable source that there would be no "Lucy crush on Caspian" in the film. She is being played as only about 12 anyway.

Oh thank goodness. That is very good news. I haven't been keeping up on all the Narnia news this time, so i hadn't heard that had been confirmed.

... We have had a good assurance from a reliable source that there would be no "Lucy crush on Caspian" in the film.

Really, really reliable. Nothing cryptic. This strongly suggests we should drop that topic of discussion ... again.

1. No, she didn't have a crush on Caspian in the book: she was 10 at the time, still a child, and he was nearly twice her age and practically grown up. She was a sensible child of her day.
2. We have had a good assurance from a reliable source that there would be no "Lucy crush on Caspian" in the film. She is being played as only about 12 anyway.

Exactly, and he's courteous and chivalrous because that's how gentlemen were supposed to behave around ladies. As for #2, good, I had forgotten that. Since it is confirmed I shan't comment on it anymore.

What is Eustace looking at?

I have no idea. I can't even tell if he's in his England clothes or his Narnian clothes in that shot.

are the book's pages still closing at the point in the trailer when she puts her hand on the page, or is this just a clip that was thrown in that may actually take place before the moment when she supposedly tears the page?

I'm not sure. I have been wondering if the shots have been moved around.

I think people have a different idea of what I mean by Lucy crushing Caspian. I'm definitely not a person who inserts romance into stories I enjoy. And this is no romance.

I just wanted to throw one little thing in about the whole witch/edmund discussion.

I've heard people say that it looks like Edmund is really listening to what the witch is saying to him, as if he is being tempted.

Well, I don't think those scenes are meant to be matched up together. I think it is just the way the trailer is edited that makes it look that way. I think they are two different scenes. The background of the white witch looks completely different that what you see behind Edmund.

So, after I got over my initial shock / horror of the torn page, I began to think about it. First, which page is the spell itself actually on? The indications seem to be that she ripped of the page with the picture. I would think the spell would be on the other page, which is still in the book after the flipping pages if the scenes are in order. Second, in the trailer, the line about being tested comes before the scene with the magic book. I assumed that it was connected to the scene with the map, but I watched and Coriakin's mouth is not moving, so that line might not be in the movie or it might be from a different spot in the movie. It would seem rather odd to be warned that one is going to be tested. For something to be a true test of that sort I think it would be more beneficial / accurate test if the person didn't realize it was a test. Third, in the book, Lucy is stopped by Aslan's warning not to say the beauty spell but that warning does not serve to stop her from saying another spell, although she knows perfectly well that she oughtn't (Although not explicitly stated in the book it is implied that she knew what she was doing was wrong). They might have her be tempted to say the beauty spell again instead of having that other spell. I'm not crazy about that idea, but it at least makes the tearing out of the page a little more bearably. Fourth, I was listening to that interview by Douglas Gresham and he said "You will see them tempted one after the other." Because of the line about "you all will be tested" I had assumed that each of the characters main test would be happening at more or less the same time and after the Island of the Dufflepuds. But now I realize that might not be the case. Everyone (except Reep) was tested by the dark island in the book (they all had to deal with their fears). Lucy actually was the only one who handled it the right way by calling on Aslan. I wouldn't call that the main test / challenge that any of the characters in the book faced. Eustace's was dragon island, Caspian's was Deathwater and the end of the world, and Lucy's was the magician's book. Fifth, the only logical reason that I can think of that Lucy would be purposefully tearing a page out of the book was if the spell had to be said under specific conditions that weren't being met at the magician's house.

Do I like the idea that Lucy tears a page out? No, but if it is handled well I think I can deal with it. The really important elements of Lucy and the Magician's Book are: 1. that Lucy is tempted by the beauty spell.
2. that Lucy does not overcome that temptation by her own strength.
The elements I really want to be in there but are not as important as the first are: 1. that Lucy says another spell preferably the eavesdropping spell and is confronted by Aslan about it.
2. that it is clear that Lucy's problem is more about feeling jealous of Susan than about wanting to be beautiful.

By the way, does anyone know if there is anyway to save the trailer to one's computer? It would be easier to analyze if I had it on my own computer and could move forward frame by frame.

I think I can survive the appearance of the WW, but why! are her eyes green?

Jadis' eyes have been green since The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe. If her eyes being green in The Voyage of the Dawn Treader is foreshadowing of Certain Doom to Come, then someone should have rung some warning bells way back when Tilda Swinton was cast. Her eyes are actually green.

I just don't see why the Witch's wanting to make Edmund a king would be a nightmare or temptation for him.

Just because Edmund defeated her doesn't mean that he subsequently squelched her from all memory. It's the island where your worst nightmares come true.

Jadis' line to Edmund in the trailer is basically a paraphrase of her conversation with him the first time that she met him, minus the magic Turkish Delight. Even though Edmund is a much stronger character now, I think that the memory of betraying his siblings to the witch was always his worse nightmare.

Following the witch is where it all started. Remembering how awful he acted back then, how his actions almost got them all killed, and the sacrifice that Aslan made is probably something that Edmund won't ever forget and I seriously doubt that he wouldn't feel just a bit horrid whenever he thinks about it.

I thought that the trailer was wonderful.

It has beautiful colors! PC had a such a monochrome color palette and everything was dark almost throughout the entire film. VDT looks so bright and rich compared to that. Dawn Treader herself look absolutely splendid! I'm excited to see more of the interior of the ship as what I did see was fantastic- all of that detail! Favorite sequences were the painting and all of the magic associated with Coriakin. I had forgotten about the map of the Eastern End of the World and I'm glad that they seemed to have included it. Wondering what other details they included...

Mr. Apted seems to be steering this film in the right direction, in terms of the spirit of Narnia. So far, I'm very pleased and grateful to see another Chronicle come to life. I can't wait to see how it all comes together as a whole.

Let me reassure you on two points:

1. No, she didn't have a crush on Caspian in the book: she was 10 at the time, still a child, and he was nearly twice her age and practically grown up. She was a sensible child of her day.

Ten year olds get crushes. I had a crush on the red Power Ranger when I was 4. Of course no one said I was a sensible child lol

EDIT! posted that before i sawwe were done with the subject. I am not sayig there will be a crush or anything. just saying crushes ca happen at any age

1. No, she didn't have a crush on Caspian in the book: she was 10 at the time, still a child, and he was nearly twice her age and practically grown up. She was a sensible child of her day.
2. We have had a good assurance from a reliable source that there would be no "Lucy crush on Caspian" in the film. She is being played as only about 12
I'm not sure. I have been wondering if the shots have been moved around.

Yay, so happy, I thought all that Lucy/Caspian stuff was utter nonsense, and I was getting worried. I like Lucy. She *can't* have a crush. So there! I'm happy! No crush. And what's all this about a crush in the books? I never saw *that*... Lucy's too innocent to do anything like that... ; ) her focus (to me) was always Aslan, right? =)

Anyways: relief! Thank you Coracle!

Hey Lady Lilian, I saw that Lucy's back was to the door/hall in the trailer too! I was thrilled! The trailer did such an aweseome job I watched both movies Saturday night, read MN yesterday, and read LtWtW today and started HaHB as well =) So much for not being into 'Narnia.' Im so excited! Lucy looks so awesome! And I'm so glad she's not going to have a crush on Caspian. I would be heartbroken, mad, and... mad. Very disappointed! Reep looks *SO* cute. I felt like Lucy *finally* seeing him: I'd love to cuddle him and stroke his fur! =D As my best friend says Dawn Treader looks: ~*~divoon~*~!

Jadis' line to Edmund in the trailer is basically a paraphrase of her conversation with him the first time that she met him, minus the magic Turkish Delight. Even though Edmund is a much stronger character now, I think that the memory of betraying his siblings to the witch was always his worse nightmare.

Following the witch is where it all started. Remembering how awful he acted back then, how his actions almost got them all killed, and the sacrifice that Aslan made is probably something that Edmund won't ever forget and I seriously doubt that he wouldn't feel just a bit horrid whenever he thinks about it.

Thanks for this. Your post made me cry. Why? I immediately thought of the apostle Paul. I don't think he ever forgot what he did to the early Christians before his conversion. What did Paul say to Timothy? "This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief." (1 Timothy 1:15, KJV)

So, after I got over my initial shock / horror of the torn page...

Ditto. I don't like Lucy's ripping out a page from the book either. I was shocked to see it. But maybe it won't be as bad as we think, if they handle it right. If she really does rip out a page, as everyone assumes, how long (and how many pages ) did it take to get that scene right? Remember the detail of creating the book in Ernie Malik's latest blog? Of course, maybe something in the scene (and book) was CGI-ed.

We have had a good assurance from a reliable source that there would be no "Lucy crush on Caspian" in the film. She is being played as only about 12 anyway.

Really, really reliable. Nothing cryptic. This strongly suggests we should drop that topic of discussion ... again.

Mods, you made my day!

Okay, the line "this place just gets weirder and weirder" ... who says this?! I don't think it's Eustace because the voice sounds too old. And I don't think it's Reepicheep because the voice sounds too shrill. In the scene with this line, Eustace is in the foreground trying to avoid appearing Dufflepuds. I don't think he says anything. I think the line comes from someone in the scene who isn't on screen. Of course, I could be wrong.

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Pepper Darcy: ditto on everything! I'm relieved too that there's no Lucian!

Reep looks *SO* cute. I felt like Lucy *finally* seeing him: I'd love to cuddle him and stroke his fur!

Agreed!