I'm pretty sure I remember Lucy having a bit of a crush on Caspian in the book. Am I correct or imagining this? It was nothing suspect, just something realistic and harmless.

I'm pretty sure I remember Lucy having a bit of a crush on Caspian in the book. Am I correct or imagining this? It was nothing suspect, just something realistic and harmless.

Actually in the book Caspian is very protective of her and very chivalrous around Lucy a lot. When I first read the book in the mid 90's I was wanting a Caspian and Lucy pair but my hopes of that was shattered when RD came along. I don't really remember if Lucy had a crush on him, just that Caspian would treat her as if she was his own daughter.

If some guy like Caspian was acting in a protective way with me then I guess I'd have a crush on them too and it has happened to the best of us girls too I bet?

You were about between the ages of 9-14 and had a best friend who's brother or their friend was much older yet they would be role models to you in a way because they would have their reasons to protect you or were very nice to you. Wouldn't you sort of develop a slight crush?

This is probably the case.

I hope you are wrong. It seems even worse because we know that they are going to attempt to make the Caspian/Ramandu's daughter's romance seem more then it was in the books, so adding a complication of Lucy having a crush sounds like a terrible idea to me.

I am also not understanding your point about crushing on older guys maybe i just never did that and it just feels too much like their excuse for having the Caspian and Susan romance. Well, of course, two teenage people around the same age, of course, there would be a thing between them, how could we not do that. No, not necessarily, life and death situation here, especially in PC.

The whole point of it decarus is that Caspian will not like her the same way back. It could be a secret to Lucy and he may never find that out that Lucy has a little girls crush on him.

I think it's funny how people think that by one little girls crush on Caspian could ruin a romance between Caspian/Lilliandil.

We don't know either if Lucy is even going to have a crush on Caspian or not. I just think it would be a great foreshadow of hers since she wants to look like Susan. And I fid it to be a great possibility that she will have a crush on Caspian.

Again. Caspian is not going to like a little girl like her back in the same way.

In my opinion, Lucy crushing on Caspian would be a lot more true to the books than Caspian and Susan in PC. I'm not a girl but I think DasmelJillPole has the right idea and understands my point.

Just thought I would put my little opinion in here. I understand what DasmelJillPole and Warrior4Jesus mean about a little girl possibly having a slight crush on a such chivalrous and heroic guy like Caspian. I actually wouldn`t mind the idea too much. Although, I can understand how the whole Susan and Caspian thing can put a damper on such an idea. It would build up Lucy`s character in a way. The idea of crushes and being worried about whether she is pretty or not is very appropriate behavior for a girl her age. I know The Horse and His boy mentions Susan having quite a few suitors. Although I don`t recall there being a mention of Lucy`s suitors. Unless I have forgotten correct me if I`m wrong. It seemed that all the beauty and romance seem to shower Susan. If the crush idea is used it would give Lucy a chance to indulge in things she has been denied. Fans would be more tolerable if the Susan and Caspian thing had not happened.

One thought I'm having about the idea that Lucy pulls the beauty spell out of the Magician's Book is that perhaps that's where the scene with Aslan talking to Lucy in the mirror ties in. No real grounding, but her expression looks like she's been caught at doing something.

That's just what I was thinking! And Lucy is looking into a mirror in that scene - i.e. contemplating saying the spell?

Lucian would destroy VDT.

Hmm, maybe, but hey, remember what they said? Not everything is what it appears to be in trailers. Lucy *MAY* have torn a page out, she may NOT have. We don't know. Certainly this *is* lucy's temption etc. But let's not go bezerk or anything... But I do agree, if Lucy has torn out the page (and it may have been accident too, why wouldn't she just say it there and tear out the page for later?) then that *might* be what the mirror/Aslan scene is... either way, they *nailed* that scene for me. It's perfect.

I'm 90% certain Lucy has pulled a page out. See the picture icarus posted here. And, I'm really not overly worked up about this. The film will most likely not be what I was hoping for, but I didn't really expect it to be. I'm happy with most of what I've seen so far, and we honestly have too little for me to get upset about anything yet.

I don't know if it's the beauty spell, but what other spell would she want to rip out?

Well, if it was Book!Lucy (ignoring the fact that she never would rip a page out, for the sake of argument), I'd say the story that Aslan promised to tell her over and over. Not that I think that's what Movie!Lucy is doing, but oh well.

As to what Lucy's test is, I don't have a clue. I'm rather hoping that was just a dramatic line of Coriakin's for the trailer only and Lucy's "test" was that scene. *crosses fingers*

*ignores all discussion of Lucy and Caspian*

A couple minor things I wanted to toss into the discussion:
*Did anyone else notice that Lucy stands with her back to the open door (of a long hall!) in the Magician's Book scene? A tiny detail, yet a detail that's fun to spot.

*For my own sanity, I tried comparing Reep's VDT two words with a similar point in PC. There does seem to be a subtle difference; this Reep is a bit higher, clearer, perhaps more of a British accent? There is a bit of difference if you compare the trailer with the point where Reep reacts to Lucy's "he's so cute!" in PC. I'm not familar enough with Nighy or Pegg to say which voice is in the trailer, but I'd guess Pegg.

*Also, am I the only one who felt like Edmund in England was not the out of character moment, but Lucy was? Lucy's lines sound like Susan: "Edmund, you’re supposed to be helping me with the groceries" and "not in this world." I'm infinetly more concerned by those lines then Edmund trying to join the army.

Edit:

dmund saying he was a king in Narnia at the beginning felt a little "déjà-vu:" Peter says the same thing in PC, and Susan answers almost exactly what Lucy answered.

Yes, exactly what I was thinking! Not very happy with it.

*ignores all discussion of Lucy and Caspian*

Funny.

*Also, am I the only one who felt like Edmund in England was not the out of character moment, but Lucy was? Lucy's lines sound like Susan: "Edmund, you’re supposed to be helping me with the groceries" and "not in this world." I'm infinetly more concerned by those lines then Edmund trying to join the army.

That`s a good point. It may just be that Lucy is getting older that`s all. With her older siblings being gone, she has become more mature and responsible. Now its her and Edmund`s job to look after things. She doesn`t have her big brother Peter around to baby her anymore. I see it as her becoming more outspoken and independent. If you recall in PC, Lucy has no problem speaking her mind.

Lady_Liln: I did notice that Lucy sounds rather odd, not just in those lines but in several others (such as the scenes with the painting). I don't mind that she sounds like Susan in England, she'd just better not act like Susan in Narnia! I really hope that they're not trying to make Edmund and Lucy into Peter and Susan...

Another thing that a friend of mine pointed out when we discussed the trailer today was that the trailer is mainly from Lucy's perspective. There were more shots of her than there were of anyone else (we barely saw Edmund, Eustace, or Caspian). I'm okay with that for the trailer but I think it would be rather odd if the whole movie ends up being Lucy's grand, shining moment. That wouldn't be a bad thing, I just don't think it fits the whole theme of VDT very well.

VDT doesn't have any substantial Lucian to build off. Caspian is chivalrous to Lucy at points, and I can understand how a little girl might get a crush under those circumstances, but the book really does not support her having a crush on him. It's like a comparison for the reasoning to Suspian -- "Well, they are both close to the same age, and since it looks like something might be going on between them, why don't we create something?"

I've watched the trailer many more times now to look specifically at Lucy ripping a page out of the book. I don't know how to attach pictures to posts, but look at the 52nd screen-cap on NW's front page closely. I think Lucy's hand is covering the book's "window." And I can see part of the spell's wording in the picture too.

What I can't tell is this -- are the book's pages still closing at the point in the trailer when she puts her hand on the page, or is this just a clip that was thrown in that may actually take place before the moment when she supposedly tears the page?

I came in here to go over a couple of things I'd forgotten to mention in my last post (the top of page 13).

First I'll ask a question on a particular moment in the trailer. Sorry, I don't know if it has already been discussed. What is Eustace looking at?

The other thing I was going to mention was Lucy pulling out that paper, but everyone's already discussing it. I personally think perhaps beauty is an area in which Lucy struggles in. She may have a low self-esteem and this causes her to be tempted. She therefore pulls the page out to use the spell later, (as perhaps she would not remember where it is and knows she cannot turn back the pages), while she finds the one to save the Dufflepuds. We all have the capacity to be tempted and Lucy is just as human as the rest of us so it is only natural she should feel temptation also. As someone in the trailer says "You are all about to be tempted."

Thirdly, the music! I, though very sceptical of the change of composer, was quite happy with the music. It fits very well with the magical mood, it is, however, sadly different. I could hear no trace of the former themes but it had similar elements such as the choir(?) in the background nearer the end of the trailer. That reminded me of the previous soundtracks. So far, I think I'm fairly happy with what Dave Arnold came up with. Certain themes I wasn't too fussed on like the way it started up and then went all quiet. Pretty good otherwise though!

I just think it sounds a terrible idea. I don't think it will ruin the Caspian/Ramandu's daughter romance. I just find it uninteresting and i hope they don't do it. I don't agree that there is a great possibility that she would have a crush on Caspian because that sounds way too much like Andrew Adamson's reason for why to have a Caspian/Susan kiss. Oh they are both young, of course there would be a romance, that just makes sense. No. It doesn't.

I also never saw that in the books, but i have never been of the opinion that if two characters are nice to each other that automatically means that there is something going on between them and being part of book fandoms i see that people do think that.

I think there is a possibility, because of what happened in PC i sort of think anything is a possibility, that there could be something like this, but i really hope not.

The trailer music isn't actual scoring from the movie. I would imagine they've not finished that, if they have even begun. It's actually a collection of trailer score pieces. Someone posted a list of them in the stickied music thread.

Thirdly, the music! I, though very sceptical of the change of composer, was quite happy with the music. It fits very well with the magical mood, it is, however, sadly different. I could hear no trace of the former themes but it had similar elements such as the choir(?) in the background nearer the end of the trailer. That reminded me of the previous soundtracks. So far, I think I'm fairly happy with what Dave Arnold came up with. Certain themes I wasn't too fussed on like the way it started up and then went all quiet. Pretty good otherwise though!

As much as I wished we had gotten a listen at David Arnold's score for the film in this teaser...we didn't. All of this (Minus the opening song) is all stock music that is composed by trailer music companies specifically for trailers. This doesnt have anything to do with the film's score so we cant judge it off the music used in the trailer. I did some research into identifying the pieces of music that were used:

(0023) "Prologue (Through the Wall)" ~ Ilan Eshkeri (StarDust OST)
(0035) "Magical Mystery" ~ Brand X Music / Magic Box Music
(0018) "Glory and Honor" ~Two Steps From Hell
(0153) "Heart of Courage"~Two Steps From Hell
(0104) "The Black Legend" ~Immediate Music

Thanks for posting that, zeeky.

I was relieved to see that none of the trailer music is actual movie score because I thought most of it was average to mediocre. With Harry Gregson-Williams being replaced yay!, I'm hoping for this score to be better than mediocre to average. Too bad they didn't hire Howard Shore.