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ShastaTheSecond
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Here's my initial impression:

1) Aslan looks much, much better than he did in PC. He's not quite polished yet, but the CGI looks great for the character.

2) What in the world happened to Lucy's voice? She sounds totally different than she did in the other two movies. "Edmund... the painting!" More British.

3) This whole trailer has the feeling of a Harry Potter trailer, especially with Coriakin unrolling the map. Not so happy with that. It reminds me of Alice in Wonderland (2010) also.

4) The budget shows, especially in the CGI. Hopefully it will be more polished than this in December.

5) The WW? Peter? And Susan?

6) Reepicheep's voice still sounds like Eddie Izzard. I couldn't tell the difference. :D

Otherwise, I really don't know what to make of the trailer. I'm fairly neutral, honestly. But the "Return to magic, hope, Narnia" lines made me cringe.

Narnia forever!

Posted : June 21, 2010 8:57 am
GlimGlum
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I actually liked the trailer overall after the first few viewings; there were a few things that I thought negative. It isn't the greatest trailer but it doesn't have to be.

I do believe it accomplishes it's main purpose: To let people know there is a new Narnia film coming, show some familar characters and some scenes from the story that will set the overall tone of the movie.

Looking back, in the USA, Prince Caspian made less that half of what LWW did. Less than half the audience that paid to see LWW did not do so for PC. Whether or not PC was a good movie or not (I thought it well made), a good number of people didn't like it and told their friends and relatives not to see it.

I think conveying a lighter, more magical, and more adventerous tone will be a big plus in drawing back the "lost audience" from PC. The trailer accomplishes that in my opinion. VDT's story is more magical and adventurous and does not have big battles between armies. And more fun (The Dufflepuds).

So I liked the entrance into Narnia, the Dawn Treader sailing on the water, Lucy reading the magician's book, Reepicheep climbing the mast, and even Lilliandil's appearance. :-$ Also, the Dark Island looked dark, misty, and foreboding.

Not thrilled about seeing the White Witch again or "The fate of narnia" line or the CGI minotaur. But I am glad to hear that the general audiences are having a more positive reaction.
http://www.narniaweb.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=2&p=78268#p78239

As far as trailers go, when I was a teenager I remember friends telling me: "the movie stunk, all the best parts were in the preview." I also recall seeing average or so-so trailers and the movies turned out to be much better or even great.

So though not as well received here amongst NarniaWebbers, I think the trailer is good enough for that audience we all want to see "Return to Narnia" and thereby keep the series going. :)

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Posted : June 21, 2010 9:07 am
Liberty Hoffman
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NarniaWeb Master

AslanIsOnTheMove: sorry, but I disagree. but when did she rip a page out of the Magic book? I didn't see that. Aslan roars, and then she stops the pages from flipping..... :- I am confused 8-} :)


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Posted : June 21, 2010 9:57 am
AslanIsOnTheMove
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omp! You are not allowed to dissagree with me on the forum lol jk :p There is much debate on if she rips the page out of the magicians book and which page it is. Apparently, if you look very closely there is a millisecond where it looks as if she rips out a page. I think there's a pic of it on the previous page of this topic.

Posted : June 21, 2010 10:34 am
Liberty Hoffman
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NarniaWeb Master

hmmm.....it does look like she is ripping a page out of the book!
or perhaps Aslan's roar knocks the page out! and the page could be the beautiful spell! just a theory.....


NW sister - wild rose ~ NW big sis - ramagut
Born in the water
Take quick to the trees
I want all that You are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EADBC57vKfQ

Posted : June 21, 2010 10:48 am
Bookwyrm
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2) What in the world happened to Lucy's voice? She sounds totally different than she did in the other two movies. "Edmund... the painting!" More British.

I was wondering if anyone else thought that. ;)) Way back in my first post I mentioned she sounded a bit like Emma Watson. I wonder if people are subconsciously picking up on that and that's why they're reminded of Harry Potter by the trailer.

Posted : June 21, 2010 11:43 am
Anonymous
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I'm wondering about an intentional connection to LWW in the trailer. :-

1. In LWW, the witch tempts Edmund with the idea of making him a king, instead of his brother and sisters. The same thing happens in VDT, this time as a temptation -- a nightmare or horrific dream come true.
2. In LWW, Lucy enters Narnia when it's snowing. In VDT, she says a snow spell.

Both scenes seem to mimic the two characters’ first entry into Narnia, through the wardrobe. Is this intentional on the filmmakers’ part? Some sort of return, for Edmund and Lucy, to the initial 'magic' of Narnia -- before all the changes? :-

I have another question: isn't the Witch's "I can make you a king" sort of a character regression for Edmund? This is the same temptation he faced when the Witch was in the sleigh, on his first trip to Narnia. Edmund overcame that. Then there's his "I know. You had it sorted." line in PC, after he destroys the Witch's image in the ice. Now, we're back to "I can make you a king?" :-s

@Pepper Darcy: interesting thoughts on Edmund's sword! Enya's Orinoco Flow: lol! I love the trailer too! I keep watching it. :)

@Aslan: love your thoughts on Lucy's character. Sweet and innocent doesn't make her perfect. She's a human being subject to temptation like everyone else, i.e. no less than Edmund or Eustace. Let's not put Lucy on a pedestal! :-s

@Shasta:
1. I don't think Reep sounds like Eddie Izzard. I don't know Simon Pegg, but my favorite line in the trailer right now is Reep's "Your majesties!" It's the nicest and most beautiful, simply because of the quality of Reep’s voice, which I love! It’s smooth and silky, almost royal. :x
2. Harry Potter: at first I was going to ask, what are you talking about? [Cause I haven't seen a single HP movie.] But I suddenly remembered Coriakin's appearing out of nowhere as he reads a book. I guess this is HP-ish (from the trailers I've seen). More so than the unrolled map.
3. I have no problems with Lucy's voice. Maybe it is more "British" now. (Wasn't it always? Maybe you're thinking a London accent?) Anyway, her voice is more pleasant to me in the trailer than what I heard in LWW and PC. :)
4. WW, Peter, and Susan: they all have cameos, reported here on NW in the past month or two. :)

Posted : June 21, 2010 12:22 pm
Liberty Hoffman
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NarniaWeb Master

^^ but WW appearing is a nightmare, (and don't we always wake up after bad dreams and everything isn't bad anymore?) so Edmund's not truly going back to what he's overcome, he's having a horrible dream, but since the Dark Island is where dreams come true, then it's going to seem true until Aslan get's them out of the Dark Island.....does that make sense?


NW sister - wild rose ~ NW big sis - ramagut
Born in the water
Take quick to the trees
I want all that You are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EADBC57vKfQ

Posted : June 21, 2010 12:43 pm
Anonymous
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@Liberty: I guess so. I just don't see why the Witch's wanting to make Edmund a king would be a nightmare or temptation for him. :-s

Everybody: Lucian?! Disgusting! And I'm not convinced by the reasoning of "Lucy rips out the beauty spell page." I'm not even sure she does this. If she does, maybe she uses it later and maybe she doesn't. But there is no Lucian! /:) ... :-s

Posted : June 21, 2010 12:56 pm
DamselJillPole
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NarniaWeb Fanatic

Everybody: Lucian?! Disgusting! And I'm not convinced by the reasoning of "Lucy rips out the beauty spell page." I'm not even sure she does this. If she does, maybe she uses it later and maybe she doesn't. But there is no Lucian! /:) ... :-s

I completely agree with you but I must ask:

What is so wrong about Lucy possibly having a crush on Caspian? Caspian is already falling for lilliandil so he wont look at Lucy like that. Especially her being like seven years younger then him. That's disgusting if he looked at her in that way. Many people will not find it wrong Lucy happens to like Caspian, I mean he's a gentleman to her (getting her out of the water first as shown in the trailer, gives her his cabin and clothes, he's very chivalrous to her and he is handsome.) Why wouldn't a girl her age like him or even develop a small innocent crush on Caspian?


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Posted : June 21, 2010 1:23 pm
Liberty Hoffman
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NarniaWeb Master

Lucian? yuck! it will never come to that! I sure hope not! Lucy's WAY too young for him. x_x :-t


NW sister - wild rose ~ NW big sis - ramagut
Born in the water
Take quick to the trees
I want all that You are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EADBC57vKfQ

Posted : June 21, 2010 1:23 pm
daughter of the King
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Is it possible Lucy just ripped out the visibility spell?

Anything's possible. Looking at the picture, I can't tell what's on the page that she rips out. But why would she rip the visibility spell out?

isn't the Witch's "I can make you a king" sort of a character regression for Edmund? This is the same temptation he faced when the Witch was in the sleigh, on his first trip to Narnia. Edmund overcame that. Then there's his "I know. You had it sorted." line in PC, after he destroys the Witch's image in the ice. Now, we're back to "I can make you a king?" :-s

but WW appearing is a nightmare, (and don't we always wake up after bad dreams and everything isn't bad anymore?) so Edmund's not truly going back to what he's overcome, he's having a horrible dream,

Even if the part with the Witch is just Edmund's nightmare coming true, the audience who hasn't read the books doesn't know that. The trailer makes it look like Edmund has a motivation to listen to her, even if in the movie he doesn't.

Lucian?! Disgusting!

That's what I think. But what other motivation would she have for ripping out the beauty spell and using it later? I don't know if it's the beauty spell, but what other spell would she want to rip out? Coriakin says that they are all going to be tested, therefore, Lucy is going to be tested. If the entire bit with the beauty spell happens exactly like the book, then her test comes before meeting Coriakin. But, that would mean she is either going to have a different test, or she is going to be tested with the beauty spell later. It could be a different test, but what would it be? Unless it's the eavesdropping spell.

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Posted : June 21, 2010 1:56 pm
Queen of Narnia
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NarniaWeb Regular

I completely agree with you but I must ask:

What is so wrong about Lucy possibly having a crush on Caspian? Caspian is already falling for lilliandil so he wont look at Lucy like that. Especially her being like seven years younger then him. That's disgusting if he looked at her in that way. Many people will not find it wrong Lucy happens to like Caspian, I mean he's a gentleman to her (getting her out of the water first as shown in the trailer, gives her his cabin and clothes, he's very chivalrous to her and he is handsome.) Why wouldn't a girl her age like him or even develop a small innocent crush on Caspian?

Completely understand what you mean. But won't discuss it here any further since I don't want to get lynched. :p

Posted : June 21, 2010 1:59 pm
decarus
(@decarus)
NarniaWeb Junkie

The reason i dislike the idea of Lucy having a crush was because Susan had a crush. I will be very annoyed if they do that again especially it being the part i dislike the most about PC.

I think the worst thing about them showing the White Witch and Peter and Susan is that they have succeeded in having all of those characters back again. Are they going to continue to try and do this because none of those characters are back for the next film? Are thy really going to be happy letting all the main characters go?

In the book, it is something that happens slowly, we lose Peter and Susan in VotDT and then we lose Edmund and Lucy, The white witch is only in the LWW and doesn't return until MN so in the books she doesn't feel like a reoccurring character like she has been in the films. I just think having them all again back for VotDT even if only for a cameo will make the loss of everybody for SC seem even more abrupt.

I think that is probably the only issue i see with these cameos because while it was always hard for me to not have any Pevensies in SC in the books, i am afraid it is going to seem like even more of a loss in the films.

Anything's possible. Looking at the picture, I can't tell what's on the page that she rips out. But why would she rip the visibility spell out?

It may be that the book closes once she finds the visibility spell. I don't know. I don't think that it makes any less sense then her ripping out the beauty spell.

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Posted : June 21, 2010 2:09 pm
DamselJillPole
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NarniaWeb Fanatic

The reason i dislike the idea of Lucy having a crush was because Susan had a crush. I will be very annoyed if they do that again especially it being the part i dislike the most about PC.

Caspian and Susan were completely different then to only Lucy having a crush. Susan initiated everything, the glances, the flirting and the kiss, because she knew with her beauty she could deserve better then the geeky boy at the beginning. Plus it was an attraction not a romance. this is the difference between all of that. The real romance that will ever happen is between Caspian and Lilliandil.

I also don't know why people are still freaking out over Edmund being like Peter. Edmund is being his character, Andrew only stole the foreshadowing of Edmund in VDT and gave it to Peter in PC. I feel as though Edmund is in character and the dream of the WW is just a nightmare he is still having from the first time he met her. I don't think it will be a huge deal or scene.


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Posted : June 21, 2010 3:57 pm
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