but why is it for certain that Lucy would have the spell for most of the voyage?

It's not for certain. But:

Though that actually clears up one thing that had been puzzling me - Coriakin warns them that they will each be tested in the journey ahead, yet if Lucy has already had her "temptation" moment with the magician's book scene before she meets him, then Coriakin's comment wouldn't make much sense. Clearly then Lucy's actual temptation moment will be later on in the movie when she still has the spell page in her possession.

Sadly, I think icarus is right (not that icarus being right is sad, it's just icarus being right about this that's sad). If Coriakin's line about everyone being tested is in the movie, then either Lucy's temptation will have to be after that, or she has another temptation entirely. Lucian (I can't stand even typing the word!) is the only reason I can come up with that she would want to use the spell later. Maybe it's not a lot later, but it would still need to be after Dufflepud Island, which it sounds like is going to be closer to the beginning.

One minor thought I'm having about the idea that Lucy pulls the beauty spell out of the Magician's Book (no comment on her pulling the page out ), is that perhaps that's where the scene with Aslan talking to Lucy in the mirror ties in. No real grounding, but her expression looks like she's been caught at doing something. (Yeah, I know Aslan's lines there don't tie in, but that facial expression doesn't look like a "Aslan! I'm so happy to see you!" look).

Re the Duffers. . . I really don't understand why people are complaining about the Dufflepuds. For me, it instantly brought back one of my favorite illustrations from the book. Compare movie with book. Looks like one of the things they got very much right. Also, I think those poles in the ground are spears the Duffers were throwing when invisible?

I’m not to concerned about Lucy and the beauty spell, I agree with MountainFireflower, she could just keep the page for a little while until Aslan comes in Coriakin's house and asks her about it.
My main concern is the Dark Island now.
I have this fear that they are going to have Lilliandil save them from the Dark Island instead of Aslan.
I would be so disappointed if they change that scene because it needs to be Aslan that saves them! I hope I’m wrong! This was my first thought when I saw Rhindon light up blue and it has the same glowing color as Lilliandil.

One thought I'm having about the idea that Lucy pulls the beauty spell out of the Magician's Book is that perhaps that's where the scene with Aslan talking to Lucy in the mirror ties in. No real grounding, but her expression looks like she's been caught at doing something.

That's just what I was thinking! And Lucy is looking into a mirror in that scene - i.e. contemplating saying the spell?

Lucian would destroy VDT.

I might be missing something, but why is it for certain that Lucy would have the spell for most of the voyage? What if she rips it out and keeps it with her, until Aslan confronts her about it a little later, at Coriakin's house or back on the Dawn Treader? (I don't know if that's exactly what Lady Galadriel was saying, so forgive me if I'm just restating the same idea.)

No, it's not for certain that Lucy will have the spell for most of the voyage, I guess. (And a good thing too.) But as Icarus and Daughter of the King said, her temptation would probably have to come after Dufflepud Island (because otherwise Lucy had her test before Coriakin tells them that they are all going to be tested).

I hope Aslan confronts her about it before the whole thing goes too far.

One thought I'm having about the idea that Lucy pulls the beauty spell out of the Magician's Book is that perhaps that's where the scene with Aslan talking to Lucy in the mirror ties in. No real grounding, but her expression looks like she's been caught at doing something.

That's just what I was thinking! And Lucy is looking into a mirror in that scene - i.e. contemplating saying the spell?

Lucian would destroy VDT.

Hmm, maybe, but hey, remember what they said? Not everything is what it appears to be in trailers. Lucy *MAY* have torn a page out, she may NOT have. We don't know. Certainly this *is* lucy's temption etc. But let's not go bezerk or anything... But I do agree, if Lucy has torn out the page (and it may have been accident too, why wouldn't she just say it there and tear out the page for later?) then that *might* be what the mirror/Aslan scene is... either way, they *nailed* that scene for me. It's perfect. But I feel mostly pity for Lucy: obviously she feels like dirt. No it's not right, but she feels like dirt anyways... maybe Susan has 'rubbed' it in...

I wonder if Edmund's sword glowing isn't because of his nightmare. Because it's glowing like some of this Witch's wand stuff did... maybe not that *edmund* is using it, but he has 'seen what the White Witch can do, and I've helped her do it.' He *knows* what's going on and that *might* be part of his nightmare: now his sword has that 'power' and he's going to freak out. At first I didn't think that sword thingy was that nightmare scene, but it is, the background is right, even though at the begining his hair isn't sweaty like at the point where his sword is glowing.

But after watching the trailer, I'd say this is very *BOOK* oriented. i mean, after PC, this is a breath of fresh air. I'm going to have Enya's Orinoco Flow stuck in my head for 6 months now: sail away, sail away, sail away... we can sail, we can sail (sail, away, sail away, sail away,)

The point is, the trailer has capture my heart. VotDT and SC are now my favourite of the Narnia books. And this trailer made VotDT a favourite book! IT'll be my fav. until SC comes out (narnia wise as movies go). It's Lewis. It's Narnia. It's Aslan. And Lucy is still so sweet and innocent. I just hope she's not having a crush on anyone, after Susan, that would be just stupid (duh) I don't think she does. In the book she almost said the spell anyways. So I doubt it has anything to do with Caspian, it looks like it's mostly just a 'jealous of Susan' thing. And... well? : ) I'm so hyped about this movie! : ) We're going to see it with people from our church the 11th of December!

Anyways, I hope this Lucy spell thing isn't making Lucy a horrid beast to where you can't enjoy her as a character. Peter was ruined in PC, and I was so mad I couldn't enjoy his character. Lucy is my favourite character in Narnia. Period! Well, i don't think that's what Apted has done. Lucy is pure and innocent, she won't fail me. I'll wring someone's neck if he's ruined *HER* BUT I don't think so. Some of this talk about the beauty spell is freaking me out, but I really don't think Lucy's going to be a horrid, stuck up beast.

Caspian looks like a man now, not some sappy kid. Aslan is wonderful! Edmund is perfect! So is Eustace! Perfect choice. Reep is so cute! Wow, Eustace was grovelling behind Reepicheep: 'your Majesties!' I've been going around for days saying: 'this place just gets weirder and weirder!' =)

Anyways, like someone else said: this is *just* a trailer, don't freak out and make so many assumptions that the movie's been ruined because of what we think we're seeing. It looks like it's following the book very well. After PC, almost anything could follow a book perfectly Overall, I give Apted a 10 for the trailer!

Is it possible Lucy just ripped out the visibility spell?

Is it possible Lucy just ripped out the visibility spell?

Good thought, decarus! I don't see why it's not possible...

Thanks, dotK & Lady Galadriel for explaining that. I see what you're saying now. I just hope all is really not as it seems.

Over all i think it was a good Trailer

I'm just wondering why Reep is on the beach with Aslan and the kids. Wasn't he supposed to sail over the wave into Aslan's country in his coracle by himself?

First off, welcome to NW, vince519!

Yes, you're right, in the book, Reep sails away by himself in the coracle and the kids meet Aslan alone. Caspian is not supposed to be there either.

But for the movie, both Caspian and Reepicheep are in the coracle and we can see the Dawn Treader in the distance. I'm assuming that they have Caspian and Reep present for when the Pevensies and Eustace leave because it will give them better closure in the movie.

That's not the coracle. The coracle we saw was tiny. That's the ship's boat that they're in in the trailer.

I'm hoping that we're wrong and that Lucy doesn't tear out a page or that it isn't the beauty spell. Yeah, Lucy was pretty ooc in the book during that scene, but it was an understandable character progression. Lucy ripping out the page? That's just not Lucy.

I agree with Bookwyrm. I don't think Lucy would do such a thing. Plus, Aslan is watching her. I know Aslan will never let Lucy do that.

Lucy has free will just as everyone else. God lets us make mistakes. Aslan apparently lets people make mistakes from time to time as well. He apparently lets bad stuff happen.

He let the white witch rule Narnia for a hundred years. He let Edmund choose to follow the white witch. He let them be tempted in VDT.

It is clear that Narnia is a lot like the real world, in that people have free will. Sometimes bad stuff happens as a result of that freedom. Mistakes are allowed. We learn from them. If the Pevensies are in Narnia to learn, wouldn't it make sense for them to make mistakes since that is often part of the learning process?

As Bookwyrm pointed out, that whole part with the magicians book is very un-Lucy.
So something else un-Lucy wouldn't bother me. She doesn't have to be Miss Perfect Mary Sue in order to be Lucy for me. I don't think they could realistically make the character dislikable, even if she does rip out the beauty spell for later. Any girl this day and time could relate to that. I'm not saying she definitely will rip out the beauty spell, but if she did I think that would be understandable, even though I may be the only one of that opinion.

*dodges rotten tomatoes*

Somedays I wish Narnia was real life. LOL I did think that in the Trailer we see Edmund trying to join the Army. I thought that was a bit like real life.