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beloved
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^ Ditto on Georgie and Skander being the best chosen, FencerforJesus.
To be honest, right now I want spoilers but the logical half of me is glad that there are so few out. I want to know what they did, what they didn't do, if I'm going to like it.
Which was exactly the intent. It's isn't called a teaser trailer for nothing. It's done exactly that. With the general public now informed of the new Narnia movie (Toy Story 3 made over 40 mil it's first day) news may very well come more swiftly but, unfortunately, say less.

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Posted : June 19, 2010 1:35 pm
decarus
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I will disagree that Skander and Georgie are the best of the five. One of my initial reactions to this trailer was that's good Georgie finally started speaking clearly, oh wait, but Skander is still mumbling his words. What can you do? Will and Anna are both better actors and one of my biggest worries is the inability of the cast left to be able to carry the film. We will see.

From the little bit we have seen, which isn't much, it looks like Georgie has improved. We can only hope Skander has as well.

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Posted : June 19, 2010 2:23 pm
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OFF WITH YOUR HEAD!!!

;))

Please don't behead Cep. He's need to provide stress relieving food. ;))

I've made it through pages 1-6 (and part of 7) and 12 - whatever it is on now. Definitely mixed reviews.

Ahhh, the eternal problem of Narniaweb - the negative points are always much easier (and in a way fun) to debate than the positive stuff. ;) The positive stuff often goes without saying, and its hard to really get your teeth stuck into a good debate about things we all think are perfectly fine. Essentially, when we think things are good there is often nothing more we need to say about them, hence why alot of debates can always seem oddly skewed to the negative end of the spectrum, even when if you asked each person individually you'd find their opinions were still mainly positive. :)

Excellent way of putting that. I especially like the part I bolded. In order to get into a good debate there needs to be two sides of an issue. Also, I find it much easier to keep going when I'm complaining then when I'm pointing out the positives. :p

I was thinking about the trailer and it seems that a lot of the scene either seem like a slap in the face to people who are closer to the purist end of the spectrum or encourage them (some scenes seem to do both). For example, they show scene like the Silver Sea and the end of the world that fans will instantly recognize but might not mean a lot to people who haven't read the books but at the same time we find that Caspian is on the boat and likely is on the island when Aslan appears (as someone mentioned there are four human shadows). Reep also shouldn't be there when Aslan appears. A lot of the scenes seem to be for either the non fan or the fan. The scene in the bedroom I think works for either sense it shows how they get into Narnia. The scene with the Witch, Peter's scene, Susan's scene, and the token flying faun are obviously targeted to please the non fan. (Whether they intended to or not, they are also the ones that worry / anger many of the fans). I feel like I'm on a roller coaster with the way my feelings are for this movie. I'll be glad when December comes because for good or bad then I will know I how feel.

If they hadn't turned Peter in to a jerk in PC, I don't think I would be having nearly the problem with Edmund's "I'm a king" line. Also, if they hadn't brought back the Witch with a line to make him a king, I don't think I would be as worried. As people pointed out Edmund did get into a little disagreement with Caspian on Goldwater. I'm not sure anyone has mentioned it, but he also reminded Caspian that he was not Caspian's subject when Caspian was having his tantrum. In the latter case, I think Edmund was right to do that because Caspian was acting like a spoiled child. I don't think Edmund's motive was angry at being treated like a subject or a need to show that he outranked Caspian. He knew Caspian was wrong and was using his rank to try to stop him. I'm really not sure how to interrupt their disagreement on Deathwater. The book doesn't really give any indication to Edmund's motives for what he says or how he says it. It could come from greed for the gold or it could be that he is angry about Caspian ordering him around or it could be that he realizes that Caspian is heading down the wrong road and is trying to stop him. Edmund didn't really have much growth in the book. He learned a good deal on his first trip to Narnia. If they are going to use the "I am a king" to allude to the tension at Deathwater, I think that could work as long as it is not an on going thing through out the whole movie. If it is connected to the White Witch's appearance, i.e. the "test" Edmund has to go through is to say "No" to the Witch because he is having problems about not being treated like a king / wants more power than Caspian. Then I know I will be very angry. If he is just reliving his former actions with a feeling of shame, then it probably won't be so bad. The problem is that those two scenes in the trailer were too similar to sore spots in PC and made conclusion jumping very easy. It reminded me on two of my least favorite scenes in PC.

It looks like Gael is on the boat at the Dark Island (based on the picture Gymfan posted). Of course we don't know where Dark Island will happen in the film, but well, I was hoping she wouldn't be on the boat for that island.

I wonder if it means anything that Eustace isn't in the scene that appears to take place on the Dark Island (the one with RD). In the book, he was usually glad to get off the boat. I wonder if he gets turned into a Dragon on Dark Island. :- (I'm probably reading way more into it than is there. :p )


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Posted : June 19, 2010 2:41 pm
FencerforJesus
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We must also remember that not everything that is in the trailer will make the movie. Because of the all the pre-planning that is able to be done now, it really helps, but there was a line in LWW's trailer that never showed itself in the movie. And PC had a shot or two that didn't make the final cut either. So let's not get over our heads too soon and wait and see this thing through.

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Posted : June 19, 2010 4:15 pm
TheGeneral
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I saw TS3 yesterday and was really disappointed that they didn't show the trailer! :- :-o . But I saw the trailer online and I thought it looked great. The only part I didn't like was seeing the white witch again...

Posted : June 19, 2010 4:42 pm
Adeona
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Oh, wow. I wasn't going to watch it, but my sibs were telling me about it and I could hear them watching it in the next room and, well, I couldn't hold out! :)

Favorite scenes: The sea of lilies. So beautiful. That and Lucy and Aslan at the very beginning. That little shot has such an atmosphere of mystery and wonder.
And I really do like Edmund trying to enlist; it's so patriotic and noble of him. The "I'm a king" line might be unnecessary, though.

Ramda and Rhindon glowing blue, etc, are just too odd. I'm really hoping two things: That Lilliandil is not causing the glow of Rhindon, and more importantly that if Rhindon is glowing during the Dark Island, that Lilliandil is not present there. That could be majorly bad, folks! :-s And in the scene where she morphs (another idea I dislike!) there are large letters carved into the low wall that curves around them, but I can't really make them out, just a few letters at the beginning and end - maybe the last word is "MARK"?

I really hope the Dark Island is still deep in post-production, because it is way too bright in there. And too green. I think I can survive the appearance of the WW, but why! are her eyes green?

I wanted to mention two things that apparently no one else noticed:

Behind Reepicheep in his first appearance (right after Lucy says his name), you can see Eustace still groveling on the deck! :p :D

Bad news, though:
In the "Beauty Spell" scene, when Lucy steps back from the Book of Incantations she actually rips out the beauty spell page as Aslan roars. Watch - you can see that there is a page in her right hand as she pulls back! Then the pages of the Book turn in a kind of magical "Protest" to her actions.
I'm guessing the snow scene is actually before this segment.

I hate to say that, considering that was a part of the Leaked Script, but I'm pretty sure that's what happens.

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Posted : June 19, 2010 7:14 pm
icarus
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In the "Beauty Spell" scene, when Lucy steps back from the Book of Incantations she actually rips out the beauty spell page as Aslan roars. Watch - you can see that there is a page in her right hand as she pulls back! Then the pages of the Book turn in a kind of magical "Protest" to her actions.I'm guessing the snow scene is actually before this segment.

I hate to say that, considering that was a part of the Leaked Script, but I'm pretty sure that's what happens.

You know, i was about to debate you on that point, as i never noticed anything of the sort on any of the numerous occasions i've watched the trailer.... but then i went back and checked, and you are absolutely right. She very clearly rips the page out of the book.

Though that actually clears up one thing that had been puzzling me - Coriakin warns them that they will each be tested in the journey ahead, yet if Lucy has already had her "temptation" moment with the magician's book scene before she meets him, then Coriakin's comment wouldn't make much sense. Clearly then Lucy's actual temptation moment will be later on in the movie when she still has the spell page in her possession.

Posted : June 19, 2010 7:37 pm
Bookwyrm
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And Coriakin is okay with her vandalizing his magic book? When he was in the same room as the book when she did it? Wow, that's a bit absurd, isn't it? /:)

Posted : June 19, 2010 8:00 pm
Movie Aristotle
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Perhaps he walks into the room right after she rips the page out but before she turns him visible...

Or perhaps he knows it is part of "the test".

Or maybe he never liked that page anyway.

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Posted : June 19, 2010 8:24 pm
Trufflehunter
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Alright, here are just some of my quick general thoughts...

My sister has never read the Voyage of the Dawn Treader book, and to be perfectly honest, she doesn't "love" the series, as I do. But after seeing the trailer, she was very interested in seeing this movie. Fans of the book may be cringing at the trailer, but movie-goers have bitten the hook, and are ready to be reeled in!

The temptation thing sort of makes sense to me.
Lucy- using the beauty spell from Coriakin's Book of Incantations
Edmund- allowing the White Witch to return
Eustace- turning into a dragon
Caspian- (in the book) not going with the other's to Aslan's Country
Reepicheep- not jumping into the water with the merpeople?

Although I realize this would be terrible....

At the end, when they show Peter and Susan, they look sad. But Edmund and Lucy must be with them, because it is the same background. I know this would go completely against the book, but what if they had Peter and Susan get into a train accident at the end of this movie. That way, even though Susan is not supposed to be going there, Edmund and Lucy would still be able to see Peter and Susan before returning home.

Just a few thoughts and suggestions, but PLEASE provide feedback!

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Posted : June 20, 2010 5:19 am
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In the "Beauty Spell" scene, when Lucy steps back from the Book of Incantations she actually rips out the beauty spell page as Aslan roars. Watch - you can see that there is a page in her right hand as she pulls back! Then the pages of the Book turn in a kind of magical "Protest" to her actions.

Well, that realization just killed the best part of the trailer for me. :(( (I'm not blaming you in anyway Adeona). I was so convinced they had nailed this scene but now it looks like they haven't. :(( I could try to convince myself that she was started by the roar and then just accidentally torn the page but I'm pretty sure that the roar happens after she tears the page. :( Oh well, at least the special affects are good for that section. I still like the change in her appearance.

Please note that I am not used to analyzing trailers of any kind. I'm not even sure that I saw the trailer for LWW before I saw the movie. In fact I very rarely see any trailers.


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Posted : June 20, 2010 6:18 am
SusanTheArcher
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I had tears in my eyes when I watched the trailer It reminded me of the old films and my old obsession with Narnia. I can't believe it's been almost five years since the first film!

I liked it. Already it seems like some scenes have been dramatised, like when the children reach Narnia through the painting, but I guess that was bound to happen. Edmund saying he was a king in Narnia at the beginning felt a little "déjà-vu:" Peter says the same thing in PC, and Susan answers almost exactly what Lucy answered. I was also amazed by how grown up little Georgie looks! I would have liked to see a bit more of Eustace, but I suppose they "hid" him from the trailer to make him more of a surprise. Anyways, I'm looking forward to this film!

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Posted : June 20, 2010 6:19 am
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In the "Beauty Spell" scene, when Lucy steps back from the Book of Incantations she actually rips out the beauty spell page as Aslan roars. Watch - you can see that there is a page in her right hand as she pulls back! Then the pages of the Book turn in a kind of magical "Protest" to her actions.

Oh my. I didn't even notice that. Great. So she's going to have the spell with her through most of the voyage and be tempted to use it later? That just doesn't make sense to me. Uh-oh. Maybe Lucy does have a crush on Caspian and after meeting Lilliandil she knows she can't compete with Lilliandil's beauty. That would be horrible, terrible, awful, dreadful, just plain bad, and a few thousand other negative adjectives, but it's the only reason I can think of that she would be tempted to use the spell later. Maybe I should just keep these terrible ideas to myself......

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Posted : June 20, 2010 8:52 am
Lady Galadriel
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Lucian? Inconceivable!

Actually, Lucian was one of my first thoughts. It seems like it might be leaning towards it. :-o X( That would be awful and unnecessary -- especially because of Suspian having occurred too!

So Aslan is going to let Lucy have the spell with her for most of the voyage? And Lucy would actually do this? (Disobeying Aslan's roar, assuming she ripped out the page after he roared?) That is not right, and if "Lucian" is added, it would be very unacceptable. [-(

But Lucian is not confirmed yet. Maybe Aslan lets her be tested for some reason and then they have their talk about it (at Coriakin's house in the book) a little later.

Posted : June 20, 2010 9:09 am
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I might be missing something, but why is it for certain that Lucy would have the spell for most of the voyage? What if she rips it out and keeps it with her, until Aslan confronts her about it a little later, at Coriakin's house or back on the Dawn Treader? (I don't know if that's exactly what Lady Galadriel was saying, so forgive me if I'm just restating the same idea.)

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Posted : June 20, 2010 9:24 am
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