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Villanous Crush Poll was created on Oct 30, 2021

  
  
  
  
Poll results: Villanous Crush
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Poll was created on Oct 30, 2021
Jadis and Uncle Andrew  -  votes: 0 / 0%
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Prince Rabadash and Susan  -  votes: 0 / 0%
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Lady of the Green Kirtle and Prince Rilian  -  votes: 1 / 100%
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Rishda Tarkaan and Jill  -  votes: 0 / 0%
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Villanious Crush In Narnia Movie(s)?

Jasmine
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When seeing a boy and a girl together on screen, it's often the assumption they're going to be a couple. Oh, then the villain might try to find a way to be with the main hero/heroine. I feel kind of dumb for bringing this up D\'oh , but I do tend to make a joke (trying to be sensitive here).

It would seem that Netflix would extend on Prince Rabadash and Susan's interaction. That villainous crush actually does make sense.

I suppose there is kind of a villainous crush in The Silver Chair, because the Lady of the Green Kirtle had plan to marry Prince Rilian so she could have access to the throne of Narnia.

So what if there was a villainous crush in every Narnia movie? Okay, maybe not in every Narnia movie, because it might be bit of a stretch.

What if Jadis was crushing on Uncle Andrew in The Magician's Nephew? (he kind of has a crush on her because after drinking, he thinks about how she will fall in love with him). It sounds pretty pointless, though.

Even in The Last Battle, what if Rishda has a crush on Jill? I mean like, Rishda wants to be with Jill, but when he realizes he can't, she has to go through the stable. (I don't have intentions to make this into a April Fool's joke because I fear they'll end up making it happen. I don't want to be held accountable. It wasnt me ).

What are your thoughts? How would you feel about any villainous crush in any Narnia movie(s)?

 

 

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Topic starter Posted : October 6, 2021 8:52 am
fantasia
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This is a really interesting thread, and one that I haven't thought about before @Jasminetarkheena (and welcome to the forum by the way! Grin )

So I wouldn't be a fan of a crush appearing in every single movie because one of the strengths of Narnia is that every book is so different and that would get old and monotonous. (And I'm sick to death of romantic relationships being forced into every single Hollywood production) But to your point, there does seem to be some kind of relationship between and a baddie and a good guy in the majority of the books. Even in LWW, while I wouldn't describe it as a crush, Edmund is definitely attracted to the White Witch because of his desire for power. 

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Posted : October 7, 2021 10:32 am
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Col Klink
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Posted by: @jasminetarkheena

I suppose there is kind of a villainous crush in The Silver Chair, because the Lady of the Green Kirtle had plan to marry Prince Rilian so she could have access to the throne of Narnia.

That doesn't really fit into my conception of her character. While it's true that her motivations are somewhat opaque, I always got the impression that all she cared about was being queen. She wouldn't want to marry Rilian unless it involved that. Plus despite their engagement, I always felt he saw her as more of a surrogate mother.

Posted by: @jasminetarkheena

What if Jadis was crushing on Uncle Andrew in The Magician's Nephew?

No! That'd be a totally pointless switch from the book. 

Posted by: @jasminetarkheena

Even in The Last Battle, what if Rishda has a crush on Jill? I mean, like Rishda wants to be with Jill, but when he realizes he can't, she has to go through the stable.

I don't know. That'd just take so long to establish and would involve needlessly aging Jill up or aging Rishda down. I'm not saying I'd hate it. I just don't see any point to it. Rishda already has a motive for throwing Jill into the stable and there's already a moment where the heroes refuse to surrender to the villains. The Last Battle already has a relatively complicated plot. Why make it more complicated?

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Posted : October 7, 2021 10:41 am
Jasmine
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@fantasia Thank you for having me. I understand that movie makers have a way to make money by doing some romantic relationships. They tend to go in that direction for a big commercial movie or series.

My impression was that the White Witch had promised Edmund to adopt him as her son so that he could be ruler of Narnia. I think the whole thing was that he was jealous of Peter's leadership, being the younger brother. So, I agree with you on that; I wouldn't call it a crush.

And yes, I am kind of getting tired of romantic relationships in every Hollywood production, even if it is a villain having an attraction to the main hero/heroine. I think it’s about time for a guy and girl be close friends. 

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Topic starter Posted : October 7, 2021 2:54 pm
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Jasmine
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Posted by: @col-klink

That doesn't really fit into my conception of her character. While it's true that her motivations are somewhat opaque, I always got the impression that all she cared about was being queen. She wouldn't want to marry Rilian unless it involved that. Plus despite their engagement, I always felt he saw her as more of a surrogate mother.

I actually haven't thought of the Lady of the Green Kirtle as a surrogate mother to Prince Rilian. Though I am aware that she wanted to be Queen of Narnia. I think in the book, Rilian did mentioned "once she has given me her hand in marriage", it would have been my impression she enchanted him to ask her to marry him. I think Jill even mentions in the book-

"Where I come from," said Jill, who was disliking him more every minute, "they don't think much of men who are bossed about by their wives."

I think it's more like an afterthought, though, how she would have access to the throne of Narnia. It's not clear why she needed Prince Rilian for that. I wonder if it is because she knew that he was heir to the throne of Narnia, so that would have made it easier for her to get access to the throne of Narnia. Rilian would still have been king, but more like a puppet.

Posted by: @col-klink

That'd just take so long to establish and would involve needlessly aging Jill up or aging Rishda down. I'm not saying I'd hate it. I just don't see any point to it.

I don't know if there is a need to age Jill up or age Rishda down. I’ve actually seen in movies where a villain who is twice the heroine’s age crushing on her. According to the timeline, Jill is like sixteen and I always had the impression that Rishda is in his thirties or forties. The only reason I could think of for needing to age Rishda down is that if they decide to make him a prince instead of the Calormene captain. But I don't think that will happen. I do get what you're saying, @col-klink. I don't know if I would hate it either. But I think that could be one of the traps that movie makers tend to fall into.

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Rishda already has a motive for throwing Jill into the stable and there's already a moment where the heroes refuse to surrender to the villains. 

That’s true. It was mainly about Rishda making up for his unbelief in Tash or any of the supernatural.  If this were the case, one change they'll most likely have to make is to have Eustace thrown into the stable later than in the book. Not only that, but when Rishda gives the threat, they might have him say, "If the boar and the dogs the unicorn and the young lady come over to me and put themselves at my mercy, they shall be spared. The boar shall go to a cage in the Tisroc's garden, the dogs to the Tisroc's kennels, after I have sawn the unicorn's horn off shall draw a cart and the young lady shall be mine and only mine. But the eagle, the dwarf, the young man, and he who was the king shall be offered to Tash this night." Then Jill would have to go through the stable because Rishda wanted to have her for himself (I am trying to be sensitive here, as a Christian), but she doesn't want to be with him. So it would seem Netflix would want to give him a reason to throw her into the stable. It's hard to say if Netflix will try to keep it family appropriate. Though I think they should.

Posted by: @col-klink

The Last Battle already has a relatively complicated plot. Why make it more complicated?

I think that would be something to be fearful of. They might even play it out worse than I would have predicted (I am not predicting this, of course). While I am pretty confident they won’t make it happen, I think it is still something to be worried about. So it's kind of on my "no" list and "fearful" list all at once.

"And this is the marvel of marvels, that he called me beloved."
(Emeth, The Last Battle)
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Topic starter Posted : October 7, 2021 3:58 pm
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