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[Closed] The Music of Narnia: Past, Present and Future

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Mrulockia
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I see many people refering to 'The Call' as a pop song, but I didn't find it to be all that 'poppy'. If we're talking about 'This is home' as the Prince Caspian pop song, then I would have to agree. I loved 'Can't take it in.' and 'The Call.' but 'There's a place for us' was painfully generic and too country for A Narnian film.

I think the most dreadful example of a jarring transition from a score to pop credits music would have to be the recent Alice in Wonderland. As much as I loathe the Underwood's song, I can't imagine it being as wretched as Avril Lavigne's Alice song.

Thumbs up to that! That song was absolutely DREADFUL.

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Posted : December 15, 2010 9:23 am
lysander
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Maybe not pop. Alternative. Whatever you like. It still gels less with the overall score for me than, say, the songs for the LotR films.

Have you read Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard's thoughts on including pop songs in movie credits? They're very good. I wish I could link to them, but I can't find them at the moment.

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Posted : December 16, 2010 5:00 pm
Rilian
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The best way to do an end credit song for VDT would be to have used a poem by Lewis and have Loreena McKennitt arrange it.

Oh, and I've been listening to the soundtrack. My favorite songs are High King and Queen of Narnia, The Calm Before the Storm, and Time to Go Home.

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Posted : December 21, 2010 5:16 am
Clive Staples Sibelius
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I feel like an alien from outer space sometimes for being this way, but I just don't like modern, contemporary-sounding songs in my movies. I like Rilian's idea of Loreena McKennitt. A singer like that can manage not to break, but help, the illusion of fantasy. Carrie Underwood's song was nothing special. It sounded like a regular song off the radio.

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Posted : December 21, 2010 5:36 am
lysander
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I feel like an alien from outer space sometimes for being this way, but I just don't like modern, contemporary-sounding songs in my movies.

Especially certain types of movies, eh? Don't worry: you're in good (if limited ;) ) company. *joins this alien race*

McKennit would have been good, especially as she had been surprisingly overlooked when the Lord of the Rings movies were made, which I think for the most part accomplished what you described -- helping, not breaking, the illusion of fantasy with the use of vocal music. Heather Dale would also have made for an interesting choice.

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Posted : December 21, 2010 6:56 am
Clive Staples Sibelius
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I feel like an alien from outer space sometimes for being this way, but I just don't like modern, contemporary-sounding songs in my movies.

Especially certain types of movies, eh? Don't worry: you're in good (if limited ;) ) company. *joins this alien race*

McKennit would have been good, especially as she had been surprisingly overlooked when the Lord of the Rings movies were made, which I think for the most part accomplished what you described -- helping, not breaking, the illusion of fantasy with the use of vocal music. Heather Dale would also have made for an interesting choice.

Welcome to the alien race :D .

The only LOTR song that bothered me was the one at the end of The Two Towers. It didn't fit the sound world of LotR. Also, it was in constant danger of morphing into..."he's like a spider.....waiting for the kill. Cru-ella. Cru-ella. De-ville."

I'm really interested in knowing what Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard's opinions are on using pop songs!

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Posted : December 21, 2010 7:14 am
AslanIsOnTheMove
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I'm sorry if this has been mentioned already. I haven't read the previous pages at all. But I was listening to this song by Todd Agnew. It was written for a book series, called The Martyr's Song Series, by Ted Dekker, but it would be awesome if they could use it at the end of The Last Battle. I know it's not even certain LB will get made. But if it does, I love this song!!! It has so much of how Aslan's Country is described. It's absolutely beautiful IMO. It's called Martyr's Song. Listen to it and think of LB

Posted : December 21, 2010 7:55 am
stateofgreen
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I have a burning question. In the TV/movie trailers for VDT in the scene where Eustace discovers the dragon treasure and falls down that rocky slope -- where is that piece of music from? I'm assuming it's from another movie soundtrack/by a different composer. Can anyone tell me the name of the track from that scene from the trailer/preview and from what soundtrack it's from? I was slightly fooled and thought it was on the actual VDT soundtrack (and thought it should have been) Thanks in advance.

Edited to add:
This is the clip I'm talking about.

... re=related

I want to know the piece of music that's playing in this clip and what movie it's from.


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Posted : December 23, 2010 11:11 am
wolfloversk
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stateofgreen, I'd love to help you, but the video won't work for me.

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Posted : December 23, 2010 11:13 am
stateofgreen
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What about this one?
http://www.movieweb.com/movie/the-chron ... dy-eustace

Sorry, I just have this need to know what the piece playing is.


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Posted : December 23, 2010 3:39 pm
icarus
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That music was also featured in the first teaser trailer for VDT. Its called "Glory & Honor" and its by Two Steps From Hell. As with most of the Narnia trailer music its by a group/company that makes music specifically for trailers.

Anyway, AslansCountry.com have detailed playlists of the songs featured several of the Narnia trailers on their Facebook pages:

Posted : December 24, 2010 3:51 am
stateofgreen
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Thanks Icarus! That helped immensely. Happy Christmas! :)


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Posted : December 24, 2010 5:18 am
lysander
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I'm really interested in knowing what Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard's opinions are on using pop songs!

I'm going to scour through the old soundtrack threads and see if I can find the specific quote/article for you, since Google is failing me. :( Anyway, they were asked in an interview why they didn't include a pop song in the credits of The Dark Knight, and they said it would have pulled people out of the movie, and, moreover, severely dated it.

(Also, this is a bit off-topic, but I think the TT credits song doesn't fit merely because of the singer's vocal styling. I've heard it played as a piano solo and it actually sounds much like the rest of Shore's score. If a different kind of singer had been used, it would have fit nicely. I would not say the same thing of the Narnia songs.)

EDIT: Found the article!

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Posted : December 24, 2010 5:18 am
Joel87
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I don't know about you guys but I had a major issue with the soundtrack for VDT. It bothered the heck out of me that they barely featured the main theme so little and the rest of the score sounded like it was for a completely different movie. The soundtrack was always one of the first elements of the movies to get me into the "Narnia" mood. I'm guessing that maybe there were some copyright issues between Fox and Disney but it still bothers me that so little of the original soundtrack could be heard in the third movie. Does anyone else feel the same or am I alone on this one? :| Was there really a reason why they couldn't get Harry Gregson-Williams to return for the score?

On a sidenote: does anyone know what they used for the backgroud music on the website? I'm pretty sure it's from LWW but I can't find the exact piece on the soundtrack... did they just merge different tracks together to create the background music for the site? Please and thank you!! :)

Posted : December 24, 2010 9:06 pm
~DaughterOfEve~
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NarniaWeb Regular

Joel87 - I felt the same way about the VDT soundtrack but the main theme we have known to love is Harry Gregson-Williams work and when they switched composers to David Arnold we lost the main theme. We are lucky that HGW gave "To Aslan's Camp" from the LWW sountrack to DA so it would at least appear in the film. (I caught that in the credits). Its like Harry Potter, most of the films have different composers so the music clearly changed. VDT has its own sound like LWW and PC did. I love it all. I actually love the VDT soundtrack the most out of all of them.

And the main song to the website is "To Aslan's Camp" from LWW :)

Posted : December 25, 2010 4:00 pm
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