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[Closed] Puddleglum: Actor, CGI, or Both?

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DamselJillPole
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Definitely an actor with CGI enhancement. I really like the BBC version but I'm hoping that in the future film they get an actor who is really tall and slender.


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Posted : October 9, 2013 5:17 am
narnia fan 7
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I have to say actor with CGI Enhancement it seems like the best option if you want him to look as Lewis describes him in the book.

Posted : October 9, 2013 6:07 am
You Will Find Me Bigger
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I voted "actor with CGI enhancement" and I *really* want the actor to be Alan Rickman. He's a brilliant actor and he IS Puddleglum, in my head. Especially his voice.

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Posted : March 19, 2014 7:39 am
Cymru
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I love the idea of either, really. Puddleglum can seem long if the right actor is put in the costume. But now that it's been mentioned, at least partial CGI seems like a reasonable idea.

I love the idea of Geoffrey Rush as Puddleglum. Perhaps he's a bit too Tom Baker? I wonder if Tom Baker would come back?

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Posted : March 20, 2014 11:49 am
Anhun
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I definitely would not want an all-CGI character for Puddleglum. It doesn't matter how good the effect is, it just won't be the same as having a live actor. I can see makeup working if they want to convey the essence of Puddleglum's style and appearance, rather than to-the-letter fidelity to the text. I like the idea of CGI enhancement, too. But if the budget constraints are too tight, I would much rather they spend their money on a highly talented actor, than CGI enhancements.

By the way, the book describes Puddleglum as having a mud brown complexion. Am I the only one who wants them to be faithful to the book and cast an actor of African descent for Puddleglum?

Posted : March 31, 2014 11:27 am
You Will Find Me Bigger
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Oooo, that would be interesting, Anhun. Or perhaps someone of Hispanic or Middle Eastern descent?

What would you think of a CGI Puddleglum that is done with motion capture (like Gollum/ Andy Serkis) so that there is a human performance involved?

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Posted : April 1, 2014 5:39 pm
Anhun
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The only Hispanics I know who are dark enough to play Puddleglum as written are Afro-Hispanic, so that brings us back to the African descent. At the same time, you are right to point out that there are other ethnic groups who can be that dark. South Indians can be very dark. Sendhil Ramamurthy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sendhil_Ramamurthy

would fit the bill in terms of complexion (don't know if he has the acting range -I've only seen him in one episode of Psych).

I favor Wil Johnson

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0426435/

Because I know he could act the role to perfection, and I think he has a Marshwiggly voice.

Posted : April 12, 2014 4:31 am
AslanIsOnTheMove
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I actually came here to suggest Robert Carlyle. But it looks like you all beat me to it :) The first time I saw him on Once Upon a Time I thought, "My Gosh! That's Puddleglum!!!" I just think everything about him would be perfect for the part! I vote actor with CGI.

Posted : May 20, 2014 12:16 pm
PhelanVelvel
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I'm up for any actor who looks the part and can play it well, but I think it would be pretty cool to have a dark-skinned actor do it. I don't think many people have thought about his description including a dark complexion, so it might be an unexpected choice. I liked how they made the centaurs and other mythological entities of the previous films include people of different races, so as to show that Narnia is an inclusive place.

Posted : May 20, 2014 2:21 pm
aaronnz
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It would make my day if they had Johnny Depp play Puddleglum. He is AMAZZZING.

Posted : May 24, 2014 3:32 pm
The Rose-Tree Dryad
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I think it depends on the actor. If it's someone who already looks like he could pass for a Marshwiggle—tall and gangly—then it may not be necessary at all to go the CGI route. However, if there's an actor who's perfect for the role but otherwise doesn't look the part in terms of stature and build, then maybe CGI enhancement would be the way to go. That may be a reasonable usage of funds, but if possible, it would be great to save the money and use it on something else. I also wouldn't like doing any CGI unless it looked really good; I don't want to be distracted by unrealistic-looking special effects.

Posted : July 2, 2014 9:06 am
SummerSnow
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If they could do the make up well enough, I wouldn't mind if there was no CGI. I would prefer Puddleglum to be a real life actor opposed to completely CGI, but a mix of the two would be fine, if properly done. I admit I have always envisioned Puddleglum to be similar to the Radio Theatre's cover illustration of him. But I don't know how that would be achieved, except perhaps through a lot makeup and CGI...

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Posted : July 2, 2014 5:55 pm
Lake Lachrymose
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I agree. I would prefer that they just don't opt for a completely CGI Puddleglum, because I think it would "take off" most of the "soul" of the character. I think that a mix of CGI and a great makeup work would be definitely good.

In in some cases, when they know exactly how to do, a good job on characterization is more than enough. You can see this on Hellboy movies. Nothing there is much more different from Puddleglum, I mean, there's even more weird creatures, and just look at how good it looks (I know I'm being biased here since I'm a huge fan of Hellboy, haha)! Pan's Labyrinth is another good example and I'm sure there's a lot more. I think they can easily create Puddleglum without the need to make a too artificial thing. The motion capture technique that they used in Planet of the Apes, LOTR and Avatar were wonderful, but we don't know the budget of TSC, neither who will be responsible for the visual/special effects. This worries me about the way they will do Aslan, too, so, we don't know if it could be a good idea.

By the way, I love the idea of a hispanic, middle eastern or african-american Puddleglum, it would be truly amazing! He has none of these characteristics, but I think Doug Jones could be an option; he's a good actor and has a vast experience with heavy characterization, with the bonus that he has the body and all to be Puddleglum. Geoffrey Rush seems good to me too, and I thought about Ben Kingsley. I don't know, I always pictured Puddleglum as some kind of old frogman (maybe thanks to Tom Baker, haha).

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Posted : September 25, 2014 6:13 pm
fantasia
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By the way, I love the idea of a hispanic, middle eastern or african-american Puddleglum, it would be truly amazing!

That would be interesting and I certainly wouldn't be opposed to that at all. :) Though I think I'd prefer they stick with a British accent. ;))

So, since this guy is currently in vogue I'm gonna throw this name out there JUST to get a reaction to see what everybody thinks. How about Tom Hiddleston?

Posted : September 26, 2014 5:55 am
coracle
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If the actor is able to convince me with a good and interesting regional UK accent, I will be happy, but he will also have to have the right shape face, and his skin will have to suit wearing prosthetics for the greenish look.

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Posted : September 26, 2014 11:01 am
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