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Child Actors As Backgorund Characters In Narnia Film Or Series

Jasmine
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NarniaWeb Guru

I think we can all agree that we want the main characters to be played by child actors.

Now how about child actors as background characters? It could show that Narnia is a story mainly for children.

MN- Victorian children

LWW- Some other children boarding the train, kid dwarfs, kid giants, kid dryads and naiads at the gathering with Aslan.

HHB- Calormene and Archenlander children

PC- Telmarine children (especially in the scene where Aslan frees the school children)

VDT- Children on the islands of Galma and Terenbithinia, the Seven Isles, and the Lone Islands

SC- The school bullies, children at Cair Paravel, kid giants at Harfang

LB- Multiple children

How would you like to see some child actors as background characters?

"And this is the marvel of marvels, that he called me beloved."
(Emeth, The Last Battle)
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Topic starter Posted : June 3, 2023 10:35 am
Narnian78
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I remember that in The Voyage of the Dawn Treader movie they added a little girl as a minor character who was not in the book. I guess this was to make the movie more appealing to children. Generally I don’t think it’s a good idea to add characters that weren’t in the original story. There could be some exceptions since sometimes it’s necessary to have extra people in minor roles. But it would not be good to have major characters introduced that are not in the original books in the movie or TV series. It would not be respectful to the author that wrote the stories. 

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Posted : June 25, 2023 4:12 pm
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coracle
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I think it's worth a mention that for every child actor, they need at least one double and a stand-in. The more child extras you add, the more chaperones and parent helpers they need.
Also for LWW I'd avoid child dwarfs and giants etc - this would be too confusing visually, a logistical nightmare. 

There, shining in the sunrise, larger than they had seen him before, shaking his mane (for it had apparently grown again) stood Aslan himself.
"...when a willing victim who had committed no treachery was killed in a traitor's stead, the Table would crack and Death itself would start working backwards."

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Posted : June 25, 2023 5:43 pm
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Jasmine
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Then of course, there are children boarding the train in London (both BBC and Walden did that). I wouldn't be surprised if a new LWW film or series did that. 

A bit of trivia: Sophie Cook's, who played Susan in the BCC, two children made a cameo appearance on the train in the Walden. 

"And this is the marvel of marvels, that he called me beloved."
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Topic starter Posted : June 25, 2023 6:15 pm
Courtenay
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I can't think of very many scenes in the Narnia stories where there's any great need for children as background characters. The stories themselves are mostly focused on the children who are the main characters. That in itself is surely enough to show that these stories are aimed at children — that nearly all the central characters are under 14 years of age. You don't need a lot of children in the background to prove to young viewers that this story is meant for them; you need main characters who are children themselves and who are easy to relate to, which almost all the protagonists in the Narnia books are. And as @coracle says, the more child actors you have in a production, the more it costs with stand-ins and chaperones and so on, plus the fact that children can legally only work a certain number of hours per week.

I'm much more concerned that any future adaptations of Narnia should get the main characters and the general feel of the stories "right" — that is, so true to the original stories that they feel like the same thing — than whether or not they use children in the occasional crowd scenes. That's a non-issue for me in comparison with those more important things.

Also, ideally a Narnia adaptation shouldn't need to "show that Narnia is a story mainly for children". Everyone knows that the books are children's classics (they've only been around for 70 years or so and LWW, at least, still regularly features in lists of the best children's books of the past century). The bigger challenge is to make screen versions that are suitable for young viewers but also enjoyable for their parents or other adults who aren't "a jolly sight too keen on being grown-up" (unlike Susan) and who understand that a really good story for children has just as much value for adults whose hearts are in the right place, too.

"Now you are a lioness," said Aslan. "And now all Narnia will be renewed."
(Prince Caspian)

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Posted : June 26, 2023 4:06 am
Jasmine
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Fair enough. Yes, Narnia is a children's story, but I wouldn't want the movies or series to be made "too kiddy." It should also be made that both children and adults can enjoy.

Then there's the concern how a movie or series would address Susan as no longer a friend of Narnia. I would be concern if they try to change her story, though. We might see maybe Peter, Edmund, and Lucy or even Eustace and Jill trying to get her to come to the gathering of the Friends of Narnia, and she says, "Oh, what memories you have! You're still thinking about those silly games that we used to play when we were children." I can almost picture Polly (who is older and wiser) saying, "I wish she would grow up!"

"And this is the marvel of marvels, that he called me beloved."
(Emeth, The Last Battle)
https://escapetoreality.files.wordpress.com/2010/03/aslan-and-emeth2.jpg

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Topic starter Posted : June 26, 2023 7:50 am
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