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https://www.narniaweb.com/2025/09/denise-gough-cast-in-greta-gerwigs-narnia-movie-teases-a-mean-role/

So, a "mean role." Thoughts? My immediate thought went to Jadis's sister. Buuuuut.....

I’m playing someone mean in that, but it’s fine, it’s to children, it’s okay.

Should this be interpreted as she's mean to children in the film? Or does it mean that this is a children's movie so she's only mean on that level? Not sure. If it's the former, I'm wondering if she might be a Polly relative. In the script the stand-in character for Polly implies she's an orphan, but I'm wondering if she just said that because she has a horrible home life or something like that? Or maybe Aunt Letty is mean in the film even thought she's not in the book?

What are some of your thoughts everyone?

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Topic starter Posted : September 26, 2025 8:27 am
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DavidD
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Listening to the interview, it sounds to me like she means that "you can only be so mean in a children's movie". I'd lean towards her being Old Mrs LeFay.

She's already played a political maneuverer in "Andor", so I don't think she'd be type-cast this quickly into another political leader as Jadis' sister.

I guess it is possible she would be a mean step mother / foster mother / Orphanage administrator to Polly (in contrast to Digory's dying mother who is more loving), but I feel that this subplot would almost certainly distract from the main story and does not really add much to it.

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Posted : September 26, 2025 11:16 am
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Although Denise Gough is an established actress, she doesn't quite feel on the same level of acclaimed stardom as Daniel Craig or Carey Mulligan, therefore i'm imagining she'll be someone relatively minor in the context of the movie.

Aunt Letty seems the most plausible choice of the minor named book roles, since she's of a similar appearance and age (45) to Carey Mulligan (40), therefore i could definitely buy them as sisters. Also, having her as the elder mean sister to counter-balance Mabel as the kind younger sister, seems like an interesting dynamic to explore for the film.

Other less interesting options include having her as "Mrs Potts" to Tom Bonington's "Mr Potts" (a couple of nosy neighbours perhaps?) or maybe she's just one of Digory's school teachers, etc. or some other functional sort of role.

I can also somewhat buy the idea of her as Polly's mother (as long as Polly's not an orphan per the audition script) given that, as others have pointed out, she also played Beatrice Campbell's mother in 'The Stolen Girl',

I don't see her as a sister to Emma Mackey (28/29) given the age difference, therefore i'd rule out Jadis' sister.

I'd also rule out Mrs Lefay. Firstly because she's neither mean, nor relevant enough to the story to require being mean, nor in it long enough to exhibit being mean. But also because, i think that if you are going to feature her at all, as such a mysterious and enigmatic character, but one who potentially has a such a huge role mythology wise, then i think you need to go with a big name cameo there.... As many have mentioned before, Meryl Streep would be an oddly perfect choice in that regard, but that's a whole other discussion.

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Posted : September 26, 2025 1:01 pm
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DavidD
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Posted by: @icarus

I'd also rule out Mrs Lefay. Firstly because she's neither mean, nor relevant enough to the story to require being mean, nor in it long enough to exhibit being mean. But also because, i think that if you are going to feature her at all, as such a mysterious and enigmatic character, but one who potentially has a such a huge role mythology wise, then i think you need to go with a big name cameo there.... As many have mentioned before, Meryl Streep would be an oddly perfect choice in that regard, but that's a whole other discussion.

I agree that Meryl Streep would be a better choice for this role (in addition to what you said, 40 years old is not that elderly - "Old Mrs Lefay" sounds like she has some years behind her).

She did sound mean-spirited to me, the description of her photo sounds like it is a picture of a 'grouchy granny':

Digory looked and saw a faded photograph: it showed the face of an old woman in a bonnet. And he could now remember that he had once seen a photo of the same face in an old drawer, at home, in the country. He had asked his Mother who it was and Mother had not seemed to want to talk about the subject much. It was not at all a nice face, Digory thought, though of course with those early photographs one could never really tell.

I guess this description could mean that she was not particularly attractive, I took it that she did not look like the nicest of person.
Likewise, Uncle Andrew's further description of her makes her sound, at the very least, snobbish.  At worst, it puts her in a similar category as Uncle Andrew, where he looks down on people as being inferior to himself and feels he can break the rules in his pursuit of his own megalomaniac dreams:

“They let old Mrs. Lefay out before she died and I was one of the very few people whom she would allow to see her in her last illness. She had got to dislike ordinary, ignorant people, you understand. I do myself.

As such, I had always thought she was an aggressive, elderly woman. If they did feature her, I think it is possible that she could be a mean character.

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Posted : September 26, 2025 2:02 pm
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I don't think Aunt Letty is likely for a "mean" role — she's a tough old maiden aunt, but there's no evidence that she's "mean" in either an unkind or a stingy way. She's taken her much younger sister in, along with Digory the 12-year-old nephew, at the time when Mabel is critically ill and not expected to recover, and there's no sign that she does that begrudgingly. She's exasperated with Andrew and his strange ways and his constant wasting of her money, but she puts up with him nevertheless — and we hear enough in her "fruit from the land of youth" comment (I'm away from home and don't have the book to quote it from directly) to tell that she's also grieving over her little sister's impending death.

Mrs Lefay would be an unorthodox choice, but not impossible. I also have the impression from what Uncle Andrew says about her, that she wasn't a very nice person. (Not least from the fact that he liked her.) Canonically, we only hear about her in what amounts to a brief flashback in Andrew's words, but it's clear enough already that this adaptation isn't going to go according to canon. So it wouldn't surprise me if Andrew's "fairy godmother" appears in a flashback scene that perhaps shows more of her character than the book reveals, or else she may even feature in the direct story line somehow (in Digory's present day, not in Andrew's past). 

Jadis's sister is sort of a possibility, but if we do see the flashback to the final confrontation between her and Jadis, I'm hoping they'll keep it brief. I know a lot of fans would love to see an extended exploration of Charn and its downfall, but there won't be time for that in a movie (probably 2 - 2.5 hours at most) if they're going to fit in all of the stuff that's really important to the plot!

Or Gough might be a totally new character who doesn't exist in the book. Again, with the unorthodox approach that Gerwig and co. are obviously taking to this story, pretty much anything is possible. I'm just trying to keep an open mind and reserve any judgments until I've actually seen the thing.

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Posted : September 26, 2025 2:45 pm
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@davidd Maybe the lady in question is just a particularly stern housekeeper? Not Aunt Letty, herself, but someone not prepared to stand any nonsense. No no Praying Loser Not talking  

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Posted : September 27, 2025 12:29 am
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I was thinking she might be a mean school teacher, who forces Digory and his classmates to swim and delights in knowing he's afraid of the water. We still don't know what the baths scene is for, and it seems like that Greta has expanded on the book by adding scenes and situations which weren't there.

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Posted : September 29, 2025 12:20 am
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@bluestarrr, welcome to NarniaWeb!

I'd say that's just as good of a guess as any!

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Topic starter Posted : September 30, 2025 8:03 am
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Since the swimming group is all boys, I'm assuming it's from a boys-only school (they will have walked there from the school) , and I'm doubtful that a woman teacher would be employed to teach any sort of physical education, especially swimming, in the 1950s . (In our very traditional, English-style high school we had two male teachers by the mid-1960s, who taught science and Latin, I think)

So my view is she's either playing an invented minor character or is Aunt Letty,  who tries to keep her brother under control and care for her younger sister.

Domestic servants were much rarer in the 1950s than when the book was  set, and we know that Aunt Letty's money was lost by Andrew's mishandling, so there was probably no live-in staff. She could be a grumpy daily cleaning woman who doesn't like Digory making a mess on her floors. 

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Posted : September 30, 2025 12:47 pm
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She’s an excellent actress and I’m sure she could be aged up but at 45, isn’t Denise Gough a little bit young to play Aunt Letty? I think of Aunt Letty as being in her early 60s, and significantly more than 5 years older than her baby sister, Mabel. I’m unsure who Gough is portraying.

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Posted : October 12, 2025 4:23 pm
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Posted by: @rachel

She’s an excellent actress and I’m sure she could be aged up but at 45, isn’t Denise Gough a little bit young to play Aunt Letty?

Daniel Craig is only 57 though, and I always got the impression he was the eldest.

Therefore I think 45 is probably good enough to play midway between Craig's 57 and Carey Mulligan's 40, even if you think Letty should be a bit more than 5 years older than Mabel.

Obviously that's not sufficient evidence to prove she's definitely playing Letty, but I wouldn't discount it in the basis of age either..

 

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Posted : October 13, 2025 2:29 am
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Since we're apparently meeting Polly's new siblings in the movie, could Gough be playing their mother? She's already played Beatrice Campbell's mother in The Stolen Girl...

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Posted : October 14, 2025 9:12 am
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@impending-doom she certainly could. [the other mother character she plays is not altogether innocent]

She marries Mr Plummer after his wife dies in the war.... and brings Polly some stepsisters (no ref to Cinderella intended).

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"...when a willing victim who had committed no treachery was killed in a traitor's stead, the Table would crack and Death itself would start working backwards."

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Posted : October 14, 2025 3:32 pm
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