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Ithilwen
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In most cases where someone is complaining that no one they find is potentially compatible, something's wrong with the person complaining. Fact of the matter is, we cannot blame our external circumstances for our problems. Not being able to find the right person is ultimately not a problem of circumstance: it is a problem of the heart.

Another possibility I thought of is that it just isn't the right time yet. A person might feel they're ready to marry, but it might not be God's time for them to get married yet. Maybe there are still experiences they must have, or spiritual growth to go through before they're ready. Or maybe their spouse needs to go through some things first. Or perhaps the situation just isn't ripe yet due to living locations, financial situations of one or both people, etc. Maybe they'll meet their spouse later in life.

What's more important than what we believe, though, is how our beliefs are dictating our lives. Someone who believes God isn't in control of this part of their life at all could end up being overly controlling on his own end, and thus end up as a controlling husband once married. Someone who believes God will control everything and thus she herself doesn't need to do anything will likely just stay single for all her life as no guy ever comes into her life (until God decides to let her marry the FedEx man). And whether someone believes in a soul mate or not, both could use their belief as an excuse for a divorce, either because "I must have picked wrong" or "why do I have to stay with this person? There are other fish in the sea."

With this subject, I was thinking more about the theological aspects behind the beliefs, rather than the mindsets and actions that could potentially be produced by them. I definitely don't believe in divorce (except in cases of adultery and abusive relationships), so no matter which belief I hold, divorce is something I'm definitely going to guard my heart against (as well as any other dangerous, sinful thought I'm aware of).

And if those actions dictated by your beliefs aren't going to lead you to good places, maybe it's time to change your beliefs.

Unless, of course, those beliefs are something written in the Bible. I want to believe whatever is true; whatever the Bible supports. If the beliefs taught to me by scripture somehow lead me into sin, then it's my heart that is at fault and should change; not my beliefs.

~Riella =:)

Posted : September 18, 2011 10:25 pm
stardf29
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Another possibility I thought of is that it just isn't the right time yet. A person might feel they're ready to marry, but it might not be God's time for them to get married yet. Maybe there are still experiences they must have, or spiritual growth to go through before they're ready. Or maybe their spouse needs to go through some things first. Or perhaps the situation just isn't ripe yet due to living locations, financial situations of one or both people, etc. Maybe they'll meet their spouse later in life.

Yes, there is that possibility that the looker needs to go through some growth first. Spiritual growth should never be put on hold for dating in the first place, though.

The situation is not "ripe", though? I already said, we cannot blame external circumstances for things in life. If the situation is not ripe, then do something to help ripen it!

And you seem to be speaking more as though someone has already "found" someone else, but things aren't ready for the relationship to progress. I was talking more of someone who complains about not finding anyone in the first place, which was what I had assumed you meant earlier...

With this subject, I was thinking more about the theological aspects behind the beliefs, rather than the mindsets and actions that could potentially be produced by them.

If you ask me, ferreting out the theological aspects behind the beliefs really aren't going to be of any help if those beliefs don't produce action. Otherwise, they're just going to be words typed up and posted onto a forum. If you want the theological aspect behind the beliefs, probably the most important aspect is that following God's way and aligning our thinking patterns with His Word will bring life and produce good fruit. So theological aspects are inseparable from the actions the beliefs produce.

It's good that you are guarding your heart against possible pitfalls from your belief. That is what I was going for: keeping the good that is supposed to come from your belief and rejecting that which Satan will try to twist your belief into. Remember, the other pitfall of "Pre-desties" is that they can use their belief of God's control to justify being lazy. If you're guarded against that, then things should be pretty good for you.

And for the record, with my statement on changing beliefs if the actions provided aren't good, what I was talking about are those beliefs we hold that are not truly Scripturally-based, are creating bad or no fruit, and need to be changed.

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Posted : September 18, 2011 11:10 pm
Ithilwen
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Spiritual growth should never be put on hold for dating in the first place, though.

I don't mean they were putting it on hold in any way. I just mean God might want to shape the person in some way before introducing them to their future spouse. Maybe getting them ready spiritually and emotionally for the relationship.

The situation is not "ripe", though? I already said, we cannot blame external circumstances for things in life. If the situation is not ripe, then do something to help ripen it!

I think we might be thinking of two different things. Let me tell an example to help specify the sort of things I'm talking about. I'll use my parents as the example. My dad moved to the midwest, where my mom lived, they met and got married. Before that time, my dad was living in Burma. Now, let's say my mom, while my dad is still in Burma, goes out looking for a spouse, and finds that for some reason she just can't seem to find the right guy. That's because my dad, the guy God wants her to marry, hasn't moved there yet, but will soon. Once he does, she'll meet him and they'll get married. That's what I meant by the situation being "ripe". Sometimes, a certain situation has to line up before it happens. (And by the way, I am not saying that, because of this, we should just sit at home because the time might not be ripe yet. Obviously, we don't know if the time is ripe yet or not, and so we should do what we can, when we can. I just mean that if we are already doing all we can, and nothing is happening, it might be because it's not in God's timing yet.) And sometimes, it's not something we can help ripen -- my mom obviously couldn't make my dad move to the US faster; she didn't even know who he was or that he was in Burma. But that, of course, depends on the situation since there are things we can help ripen, as well. :D

And you seem to be speaking more as though someone has already "found" someone else, but things aren't ready for the relationship to progress. I was talking more of someone who complains about not finding anyone in the first place, which was what I had assumed you meant earlier...

No, I was talking about a person who hasn't found anyone yet. :) Sorry if I made it sound like the opposite. XD

If you ask me, ferreting out the theological aspects behind the beliefs really aren't going to be of any help if those beliefs don't produce action. Otherwise, they're just going to be words typed up and posted onto a forum. If you want the theological aspect behind the beliefs, probably the most important aspect is that following God's way and aligning our thinking patterns with His Word will bring life and produce good fruit. So theological aspects are inseparable from the actions the beliefs produce.

I'm not saying that the actions produced aren't important. See, right now I'm doing a Bible study; looking at different subjects and seeing what the Bible says about them. I'm still going through the Bible for the first time, in order to see what it says. That's why I say my focus is on the theological aspects. I'm not at all saying I'm not going to apply it to my own life -- of course I'm going to do that (and am doing that already). I'm just saying that, in context of conversation and study and debate with other people, my focus at the moment is more "What does the Bible say about this? Let's find out."

And for the record, with my statement on changing beliefs if the actions provided aren't good, what I was talking about are those beliefs we hold that are not truly Scripturally-based, are creating bad or no fruit, and need to be changed.

I thought that was probably what you meant, but I just had to make sure. :)

~Riella =:)

Posted : September 18, 2011 11:32 pm
stardf29
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NarniaWeb Nut

I just mean that if we are already doing all we can, and nothing is happening, it might be because it's not in God's timing yet.

Okay, now I see where you're coming from.

What I think I'd like to add, then, is that if we're doing all we can, something is happening. It may not fully come into being until later and on God's timing, but I'd say that, especially in the world of romance, we shouldn't necessarily judge success by results, such as finding "the one". The journey there is every bit as important, if not even more so.

I cannot speak specifically for your mother's case, and I'm not one to mull over "what would have happened" (wasn't there a Narnia quote about that? :p ), so I'll just say that, while your mother might not have been actively dating, she seemed to have been living life in a proactive, God-honoring way, and did what she needed to make a relationship work once one did come her way, so I'd say your mother lived well, and I never thought that your mother's case was anything like the "bad" cases I'm aware of.

Now, with all that in mind, going back to your original question...

What should a person do if all the people they meet aren't the right one?

Presuming that all other things are more or less in order, I'd say just keep on going. Keep working at it. Persevere. The journey is more important than the destination, and dating can be a place for a certain sort of spiritual growth. Have a team of friends who can help you out if something in particular is holding you back.

And probably most importantly, don't see someone who "isn't the right one" as a total loss. I now think that dating can be a good time to just meet all sorts of different people, practice serving others, and in the meantime learn more about yourself. And it's a time to have fun, which is good in and of itself (so long as you're not sinning, of course, but fun isn't sinful on its own). And even where "the one" is not found, good friends can be found instead.

Maybe the real erroneous belief that is worth changing is that dating always has to be about marriage. That is nowhere in the Bible, to be sure (well, "dating" is nowhere in the Bible, so... yeah). Now, if you're going to get really serious and exclusive with someone, marriage should be the main consideration. But a certain level of casual dating, where both parties know things are not exclusive or serious, and where the focus is not on marriage, can take off some of the pressure that plagues dating and keep people from rushing into commitments that will ultimately hurt them, and other benefits.

The bottom line, though, is that if you are doing all you can, then something is happening, and it is something good, even if that good thing is not "finding the one".

"A Series of Miracles", a blog about faith and anime.

Avatar: Kojiro Sasahara of Nichijou.

Posted : September 19, 2011 12:09 am
Ithilwen
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Stardf29, thanks, that answers my question now. :) I'm glad that example helped straighten out what I was saying. I'm afraid I'm not always as clear as I want to be. I don't know if it's due to my dyslexia or what. But I'm glad I was finally able to express what I was really trying to get at. XD :)

~Riella =:)

Posted : September 19, 2011 12:17 am
Aslanisthebest
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I have a question. If dating is not about marriage, what is its purpose then?
I've asked this question in the past and what I get is the giggly, "you know...to get to know other people! ;;)", which I find an unsatisfactory answer. I'm curious to see what y'all say.


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Posted : September 19, 2011 9:29 am
stardf29
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Ah, that is a good question. Certainly, the purpose of dating is important, even if that purpose is not marriage; those who go into dating with no purpose or the wrong ones will end up in bad places.

The following "purposes" are ones given in the introduction to Boundaries in Dating by Dr. Henry Cloud and Dr. John Townsend (yes, those two guys again ;) ):

"1. Dating gives people the opportunity to learn about themselves, others, and relationships in a safe context." Now, obviously, there are ways in which dating can be really unsafe. But as a low-commitment relationship, dating can, within the proper boundaries and the help of an outside support group, be a good place to discover things for the first time. Having that outside support system of trusted friends who can help them decode the various new elements they might encounter. Some things dating can help you discover: "the opposite sex (in general), your own sexual feelings, moral limits, one's need for relationship skills, and one's tastes in people."

"2. Dating provides a context to work through issues." You can see if you are attracted to people you shouldn't be, if you need to re-align what values are important in a relationship or what is important in other people, and all sorts of that stuff. You can not only unearth broken thinking patterns, but also see if those patterns are connected to something in your past that needs to be healed (outside of dating).

"3. Dating helps build relationship skills." This one is fairly self-explanatory. You don't want to self-deceive yourself into thinking your relationship skills are better than they are while going into a serious relationship...

"4. Dating can heal and repair." Now, this should never be the primary purpose of dating, due to the low-commitment nature of it. Healing should primarily take place in nondating relationships. But a healthy dating relationship, even if it does not lead to marriage, can be a good nutritional supplement to one's emotional health.

"5. Dating is relational and has value in and of itself." By this, they mean that as a relationship, dating is a place where the two involved can express and receive Godly love (not necessarily in a romantic flavor), by serving the other person, sharing things with the other person, spending time with him/her, and opening up into intimacy. In dating, all these need to have proper boundaries, both physical and emotional, but within those boundaries, the love of Christ can be expressed, and that is valuable regardless of the outcome of the relationship.

"6. Dating lets someone learn what he or she likes in the opposite sex." I think this one speaks for itself too. It's the whole "get to know other people" thing, but perhaps with a bit more purpose to it.

"7. Dating gives a context to learn sexual self-control and other delay of gratification." Quick story: a well-known psychological test placed various children, ages 4-6, into a mostly-empty room, except for one treat of the child's choice, say, a marshmallow. The examiner tells the child they can eat the marshmallow now, or wait fifteen minutes, when the examiner will return with two marshmallows. Now, some children could wait, and some could not. However, after all the children grew up, those that could wait back then were much better socially-adjusted than those who did not. (They also had higher SAT scores, for that matter.) Point: delay of gratification (a.k.a. self-control) is one of the most important character traits to bring into a relationship. Good thing is, those who did not quite have it when they were younger can always learn it when they are older. Dating can be one of those places where one can learn that skill. (Now, of course, one needs to approach this with an attitude that they do want to save sex for marriage in order for that part of all this to work.)

These are taken from the book, not from me in particular. So I am interested in what others think of these "purposes" of dating.

Edit: v mm1991, I wouldn't say your post is useless. It explains some of #1, #2, and #6 quite well. :)

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Posted : September 19, 2011 5:52 pm
mm1991
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The first thing I want to say about your view on what seems to be similar to the courtship model, is that there are very many women who did exactly that and still ended up divorced or with broken off courtships. I just hope you understand that it isn't a "fool-proof" way of avoiding heartbreak.

As for dating, it can be productive. It doesn't have to be physical or you definitely don't have to go somewhere with your fate "all alone" (in fact, if a first date suggested not meeting in a public place, I would consider that kind of creepy and cancel). Dating is good because you start to understand more about yourself and what you want in a relationship. On paper, you could say you want such-and-such or maybe you wouldn't mind him being this-and-that. However, going on dates with people who encompass these traits can be very different than what you thought. You may realize that you can't handle something or that your "list" is clearly missing another trait.

You can still date and "guard your heart" and be "pure". Dates are only as serious and high-pressured as people make them to be.

EDIT: I did not see stardf29's post. He did an incredibly thorough job and now renders my post meaningless. :D

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- Dr. Seuss

Posted : September 19, 2011 6:12 pm
Marigold Gamgee
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I was involved in some of the very earliest incarnations of this thread, and I disagree with many of the thoughts I had at that time. I'm embarrassed about how naive I was, actually. I know less now than I thought I knew then about how things should be.

I'm not a fan of the courtship model at all now. Setting up rules where God has not set them up is a dangerous thing to be doing. That said, we are called to love our neighbors as ourselves. Instead of setting up lists of rules and guidelines, perhaps as an alternative we can choose to do what is most loving for the other person in whatever situation we are in. I'm the sort of a person who would like an exact list of what to do in every situation, but life doesn't always work out that way.

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Posted : September 20, 2011 7:46 am
Aslanisthebest
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Thank-you for your responses, stardf and mm1991. I really appreciate it. :)

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Posted : September 20, 2011 1:31 pm
stardf29
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Aslanisthebest, I would say that right now you have the right idea. Get healing from a good, non-dating set of relationships before moving any further into all this.

Now, I'm just going to address only a few points, just because.

First of all, what I'm considering "dating" to be (as well as how the authors previously mentioned see it), is that there is a type of dating where two people of the opposite gender can hang out together and have fun, with absolutely zero expectation that there will be any romance developing and no extent to which the relationship is exclusive: you can date many people at one time, even. Now, perhaps that sounds more like a friendship to you, and that would pretty much be true. If you're defining dating as only where two people enter into a relationship exclusively and cultivate romance, then yes, the relationship should be approached with an eye towards marriage.

But my previous post mostly applies to this sort of not-serious, "friendship-dating" as well as serious dating. Of course, this is all semantics, so maybe the question should be: when the time is right, would you be willing to have a friendly, one-on-one get-together with a guy to learn more about yourself and whatnot?

I honestly can not understand when people say, “In high-school/college/last year, I had this boyfriend….” and then they mention a whole lot of other things and have somehow “gotten over” that guy long ago.

My guess would be, they have grieved over the ended relationship enough to let go of it. By grieving, we accept that there are good parts to something that are going to be lost, and that we are also going to be getting rid of bad parts that could hold us back otherwise. Without grieving, a past relationship becomes baggage, with the person still missing those good parts and oftentimes still blind to the bad parts. But once they grieve, that past relationship becomes a memory, one with good parts they can cherish for what they were worth during that season in life without any sense that they need it currently, and the bad parts are acknowledged as things to avoid in the future, with lessons learned appropriately.

"A Series of Miracles", a blog about faith and anime.

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Posted : September 20, 2011 6:12 pm
Ithilwen
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Question: How do you tell if your feelings on marriage are healthy ones? I've seen people who had an extreme desire to get married, and it seemed healthy and good for them, and led them to good things. I've also seen people with an extreme desire to get married that wasn't so healthy. So how do you tell which one your own feelings are? Whether it's just a strong, healthy desire God has placed in you, or if it's an obsession or idol?

And if it is the second, what can you do about it?

And can this "delay" your marriage at all? What I mean is, if it is an idol to you, would God keep you single until you learned to stop idolizing it?

~Riella =:)

Posted : September 20, 2011 6:50 pm
stardf29
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*sigh* I was hoping I wouldn't be the one to answer this, because it seems that my posts are quite taking over this thread ;)) I mean, I may sound like a relationship expert, but I most definitely am not. :p I mean, I haven't even gone on a date yet! :p Most of my "knowledge" is compiled from things I've learned in psychology class and in various books I've read. (And, of course, the Bible.)

So, the following advice on whether or not your desire for marriage is a healthy one comes from another book by Dr. Henry Cloud, who, I should mention, has been a "dating coach" for several years. In fact, the book of reference this time is How To Get A Date Worth Keeping.

In this book, he offers the following questions for you to ask yourself if your marriage desire is healthy.

"1. Are you content with your life?" This goes back to the whole "whole person times whole person equals whole marriage", and likewise, "half person times half person equals 1/4-marriage". Whatever your desire for marriage is, be content if that desire is not satisfied.

"2. Are you seeking a relationship to end loneliness?" If so, you're in trouble. Either your judgment will be clouded and you'll pick bad people, or you might have an inability to connect which will go into marriage, making you lonely even while you're married. (Oftentimes, it's both.) Get connected in safe, non-romantic friendships and get your emotional needs met there first.

"3. What are you expecting marriage to provide for you?" For example, many people get married or want to because it will make them "happy". However, the research shows that unhappy people who get married become unhappy married people; conversely, people who are already happy that get married become a happy married couple. You may be looking to marriage for other things, but be realistic about your expectations of marriage, and if you are looking to marriage to somehow "heal" you of some deficiency, there is some way to be healed of it without going into a relationship.

"4. Do you see marriage as a romantic fantasy or some other kind of unending bliss?" Yes, marriages can be quite blissful... if we work on them. Marriage requires sacrifice, commitment, and working things out between two imperfect people. The fruit of all this is very good. But you can't get the fruit without doing some gardening (because this fruit sure isn't for sale at the supermarket!). Furthermore, there is going to be pain even in the best of marriages, and most marriages aren't the best (since, you know, only one can be the best). So, be realistic.

"5. Do you think that marriage is going to make your life significantly "better"?" This one ties in to #3 and #4. You should be already having a great life as a single; certainly, not one that is "broken" and needs someone else to fix it. Most people don't want to be their partner's "life fixer", and the ones that do, I believe the word for them is "codependents"; they're not the kind you want to marry in the first place.

"6. Do you want to get married to prove that you are okay?" In other words, do you want to do it to "fit in" with society, or make your parents happy, or some other external measure like that? (Hint: that doesn't work. And if it does, you probably should be hanging around different people.)

Now, all those said, what do you do if you have an unhealthy desire for marriage? Well, get healthy outside of marriage!

Connect with other people so that you are not lonely, and so they can provide feedback on your life (such as, whether they think you have an unhealthy desire for marriage). Live a fulfilling life as a single. Have boundaries so you are not a codependent or end up with one. Resolve significant "unwholeness" you have. Make sure you have become an adult and have emotionally "left home", such that you are no longer bound to your parents and can relate to them on an adult-to-adult level. And be connected with God, of course.

And can this "delay" your marriage at all? What I mean is, if it is an idol to you, would God keep you single until you learned to stop idolizing it?

Maybe. Maybe not. God does let people live out the consequences of their sin, including letting people who are idolizing marriage get married and realize that marriage isn't all they've made it to be, then letting them choose from there whether they wish to repent. He might also let such people realize that their marriage-idolization is actually making them incapable of bringing a relationship to marriage in the first place. And yes, sometimes, He does go ahead and supernaturally keep you bound to singleness until you stopped... or even just supernaturally tell you to stop it (through a modern-day prophet; they do exist!).

I'd say, if you really want God to stop you if you have an unhealthy marriage desire, pray to Him about that. Ask Him to reveal the depths of your heart (I believe there's something in Psalm 139 about this) to find any idolatry behind your desire for marriage.

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Posted : September 22, 2011 9:37 am
Ithilwen
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Thanks for the reply. :)

"1. Are you content with your life?"

This question was tricky for me to answer. Am I content with my life? Would I want my life to be going on as it is now? No... But, you read the Prayer Request thread about what my life is like right now; being trapped at home all the time, being unable to do anything. No one is going to be happy with that life, and we are trying to fix it. That being said, even in that situation I have been pretty happy under the circumstances. I do tend to find ways to be cheerful despite the situation, and have always been generally known as a happy person with a cheerful disposition.

This goes back to the whole "whole person times whole person equals whole marriage", and likewise, "half person times half person equals 1/4-marriage".

I definitely would consider myself whole as a person. I don't expect someone to come along and "complete" me. I consider myself complete already; not perfect, but complete as a person.

Whatever your desire for marriage is, be content if that desire is not satisfied.

I think I would be extremely sad and disappointed if I found out I would never marry, because that's one of the main things I look forward to most in life. I have a great desire to get married, and I think about it quite often. However, I wouldn't "cease to be me" if I never married. It's not as if "everything I am" hinges on my future marriage. I'm also a child of God, a friend, an author, a graphics-maker, and a lot of other things. If I found out I would never get married, my life would not be the sort of life I would have wanted at all... but it wouldn't be a wasted life. I would make the best of it and most likely still be happy, just like I'm pretty happy in the unfavorable circumstances I'm in now (described in that Prayer Section post I linked you to earlier).

"2. Are you seeking a relationship to end loneliness?" If so, you're in trouble. Either your judgment will be clouded and you'll pick bad people, or you might have an inability to connect which will go into marriage, making you lonely even while you're married. (Oftentimes, it's both.) Get connected in safe, non-romantic friendships and get your emotional needs met there first.

Being at home a lot, I would say I am lonely. We are trying to get out of that situation to fix that, though. And in the meantime, I have some pretty great friendships here on NW. I don't know if that counts or not, but it's the best I can do at the moment. And I do remind myself quite often that, when the time comes to pick a husband, to be extremely careful in my choice and make sure it's the right person and that I like them for the right reasons. I've seen a lot of examples of marriages gone wrong due to picking a person out of desperation or some other bad reason. I would rather stay single all my life than marry someone I shouldn't be with.

"3. What are you expecting marriage to provide for you?" For example, many people get married or want to because it will make them "happy". However, the research shows that unhappy people who get married become unhappy married people; conversely, people who are already happy that get married become a happy married couple. You may be looking to marriage for other things, but be realistic about your expectations of marriage, and if you are looking to marriage to somehow "heal" you of some deficiency, there is some way to be healed of it without going into a relationship.

I don't think I've really thought much about what it will "provide" for me. I guess I've just always felt led to do it. Like it was God's will that I marry someday. The life I've always wanted was to have a family and live a quiet life taking care of them, doing community work, writing my novels, and basically living a nice family life. I certainly don't expect marriage to "heal" me in any way, or magically make my problems go away or anything. It's simply that I have a desire to get married; a desire I believe was placed there by God.

"4. Do you see marriage as a romantic fantasy or some other kind of unending bliss?" Yes, marriages can be quite blissful... if we work on them. Marriage requires sacrifice, commitment, and working things out between two imperfect people. The fruit of all this is very good. But you can't get the fruit without doing some gardening (because this fruit sure isn't for sale at the supermarket!). Furthermore, there is going to be pain even in the best of marriages, and most marriages aren't the best (since, you know, only one can be the best). So, be realistic.

I do dream about marriage, of course; and about the person I'll marry. I don't think you'll ever find a young, single girl who doesn't do that. But I certainly don't expect it to be perfect. No relationship between two individuals are. I certainly don't expect it to be misery and fighting all the time. At least, I would hope it's not. ;)) But it's a case of an imperfect human being dealing with another imperfect human being. It takes work, just like any other relationship takes work. Even more so, since you're living with the person 24/7. There will be misunderstandings, disagreements, one person putting up with the other person's foolishness (on both sides) at times, needing to forgive, needing forgiveness yourself, etc. I expect it to be a learning experience, I expect it to be awesome, I expect it to be blissful, I expect it to be a challenge I'm excited to face.

"5. Do you think that marriage is going to make your life significantly "better"?" This one ties in to #3 and #4. You should be already having a great life as a single; certainly, not one that is "broken" and needs someone else to fix it. Most people don't want to be their partner's "life fixer", and the ones that do, I believe the word for them is "codependents"; they're not the kind you want to marry in the first place.

I think I kind of answered this one in previous answers. And for another thing, I'm not really that "broken". I don't think I've really been through enough to really become broken. I do have problems, of course. Sins I have to work on, and bad parts of my heart and mind I pray about and should continue praying about. Marriage won't fix those things; only God can do that. However, I do have a great desire to get married. As I said, I believe God put that in me, and I don't think that desire will go away until it's fulfilled, because I believe God wants it to be fulfilled. So, I guess you could say that's one thing marriage would "fix", if you look at it a certain way. That is, if you consider "fixing" and "fulfilling" to be similar at all. *shrugs*

"6. Do you want to get married to prove that you are okay?" In other words, do you want to do it to "fit in" with society, or make your parents happy, or some other external measure like that? (Hint: that doesn't work. And if it does, you probably should be hanging around different people.)

This one isn't the case at all. My parents and friends don't really care if I get married or not (and it doesn't matter what they want, even if they did), and I don't care anything for society.

So, what do you think? Does it sound like I have a healthy view on marriage, or is there "danger lurking in my desire"? :-

~Riella =:)

Posted : September 22, 2011 1:56 pm
stardf29
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Well, here is my opinion (and it is not an expert opinion):

Your approach towards marriage is healthy enough. If you want something to expect marriage to provide for you, expect it to help shape you more into the image of Christ. And, in a rather trial-by-fire way. :p

Now, that said, knowing about your situation, I know that your family is currently taking steps to resolve all that. I would say that at the moment, pursuing the resolution of that situation should be done, rather than pursuing marriage. I think that should help bring you to a point of healing and content-ness.

I would also make sure you have a good group of offline, local friends (wherever local will be) that you can open up to, before doing anything in the romance field. They should be able to view your life more closely than any of us online can, and thus can give you important feedback, especially in the case you start acting desperate for some reason. And through those friends, you should be able to cure any residual loneliness.

But I'd say there's nothing wrong with your desire in and of itself.

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Posted : September 22, 2011 9:02 pm
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