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stargazer
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Interesting points, TOM. A harsh Northern-style winter would wreak havoc on a post-EMP-apocalypse civilization (or a zombie apocalypse, as in The Walking Dead. However, that show is set around Atlanta so cold is less an issue). But I suspect the harsh realities of such a winter might not be too appealing to a television audience.

I'm going to keep an eye on Revolution for a while, to see what develops.

Speaking of Anansi and animated shows, there was a Gargoyles episode ("Mark of the Panther") which featured a story-in-story as Diane Maza (voiced by Nichelle Nichols - Uhura in the original Star Trek) tells an Anansi myth to the elders of a Nigerian tribe. The story is even animated differently than the main show. Not surprisingly (to Gargoyles fans anyway, as the show tapped a lot of different mythologies) the real Anansi later make an appearance.

Great observations about Once Upon a Time. To answer your question, the show has not yet explained why Regina adopted Henry. (I can't help thinking the writers have a reason for it - beyond creating a tie between Emma, Henry, and Regina that makes for a convenient flash point). You are correct that Regina does really love him, according to the writers' commentaries on season 1 episodes.

But all night, Aslan and the Moon gazed upon each other with joyful and unblinking eyes.

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Topic starter Posted : October 4, 2012 11:36 am
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I've heard of One Second After and read a synopsis of the story a few months ago. An EMP destroys modern electronics (from 1980's onwards), basically anything with chips in it. Older stuff or simple electronics will survive. Stuff that's shielded or "ruggedized" will survive no matter what. Fortschen's prediction is that there'd be a huge "die off" of populace, with upwards of up to 70% of population decrease in major metropolitan areas, where the lightest hit would be in areas like Kansas or Nebraska, where population is much less. Older cars (pre-1980's, with carbeurators in lieu of electronic fuel injection) would still function.

In this way I think the show Jericho really nailed it as the show is set in western Kansas, survives fallout from a nuke blast in Denver, and an EMP blast not long after (this latter isn't explained in the show...yet), and they're able to make do by foraging, use of rudimentary technology, and sheer will to live. There's a show I think you'd probably really enjoy, TOM, if you get the opportunity. I just went through the whole thing on Netflix in about 3 weeks and can honestly say that there was never a dull or uninteresting episode. Unfortunately the show got cancelled shortly after season 2 ended its all-too-brief run (7 episodes). Honestly I'm a huge fan of post-apocalypse films, shows, and books, although I can't really say why. Something about the setting intrigues me. Revolution is a show I like because it falls in that specific niche. I recognize that it's going for story over realism...but then again that's true of most shows on TV anyways, yes?

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Posted : October 4, 2012 7:24 pm
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Ditto your thoughts on Jericho, Shadowlander. Very good show of the post-apocalypse genre. Much creepier (in the sense of realism) than Revolution - though to be fair that show's only had 3 episodes so far.

Side note: I watched the latest episode of Revolution on demand this evening - and couldn't help notice the irony that just about every advertisement was for something rendered obsolete or unusable in the show, such as cars, computers, smart phones, etc.

But all night, Aslan and the Moon gazed upon each other with joyful and unblinking eyes.

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Topic starter Posted : October 4, 2012 8:07 pm
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I tried to give Revolution a shot, but just couldn't do it. Too many perfectly groomed people wandering around in obviously store-bought clothing in one of the least grim-looking dystopias I've ever seen. That and I just couldn't suspend my disbelief enough to enjoy it and that's coming from someone who enjoys the zombie apocalypse genre.

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Posted : October 6, 2012 6:39 pm
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I caught part of a 'speculative documentary' on H2 called After Armageddon which addressed what a post pandemic world might look like. It might have been a little more realistic than Revolution in that it would take very little time for the infrastructure we take for granted to collapse; before long things like antibiotics and safe food and water would run out. A routine scratch might lead to dangerous infections. Eventually, survivors would redevelop farming and manufacturing techniques our great-grandparents took for granted but which we've forgotten.

Such a world 15 years after the blackout would likely look much bleaker than that in Revolution, but I'll keep an eye on it for the time being.

Anyone watching Last Resort? I'm actually most curious about its underlying political intrigue.

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Topic starter Posted : October 12, 2012 11:18 am
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I've not seen that one, gazer, but on occasion (if they're not flooding us with Swamp People/Axe Men/Ice Road Truckers/Alligator Wrestling in your Daisy Dukes) History Channel will show a show called Life After People. The show posits ideas about what the world might look like if humanity just up and disappeared and how the the structures we left behind will fare without us around to maintain things. Interesting to note that while most cars turn into piles of unrecognized rust that a fruitcake can survive over 100 years, and Twinkies possibly up to around 20 years. Or that the Battleship Missouri would ultimately break free of her moorings and become a small, metallic tropical islet inside Pearl Harbor, complete with it's own ecosystem. The Seattle Space Needle would collapse in 300 years while the Washington Monument might be the only thing remaining of Washington DC left standing after a millenium. It's an amazingly addictive and fascinating show to watch, albeit it a real downer when you consider the circumstances in which it's set.

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Posted : October 12, 2012 2:25 pm
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I have Last Resort on my Hulu queue, but haven't had a chance to watch it yet. It looks interesting, like a military-flavored LOST without the supernatural weirdness.

Before the CW'd bratty video player quit working on me, I managed to watched a good chunk of Arrow's pilot. I liked what I saw. Seems more like Nolan's "realistic" take on Batman than the very comic book-y version of Green Arrow Smallville used. I'm pretty sure they showed Slade Wilson's distinctive two-toned mask on the island Oliver was trapped on, so I'm definitely wanting to know more about that.

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Posted : October 12, 2012 7:25 pm
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...a show called Life After People. The show posits ideas about what the world might look like if humanity just up and disappeared and how the the structures we left behind will fare without us around to maintain things...It's an amazingly addictive and fascinating show to watch, albeit it a real downer when you consider the circumstances in which it's set.

Funny you should mention this one. I happened to catch the last 2/3 or so of this a while back and did indeed find it fascinating (and disquieting as well). I've been watching the listings to see when I can see the entire presentation.

It also came up last night in a discussion with Ryadian and her brother in terms of post-apocalyptic TV shows and novels (especially with NaNo coming up)...but that's a tale for another thread. ;))

But all night, Aslan and the Moon gazed upon each other with joyful and unblinking eyes.

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Topic starter Posted : October 13, 2012 12:45 pm
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Just got done watching The Walking Dead Season 3 premiere! Great episode!
I felt it was a much better pace then most of last seasons episodes.

And I'm greatly enjoying Season 2 of Once Upon a Time!

The Value of myth is that it takes all the things you know and restores to them the rich significance which has been hidden by the veil of familiarity. C.S. Lewis

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Posted : October 14, 2012 4:55 pm
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season 7 of "Psych" premieres on Feb. 27, 2013!! :D soooo excited for that :)
I have been watching every single season a million times and I am SO ready for this new season!! anyone else excited? :)


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Posted : October 15, 2012 7:32 am
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I'm also enjoying season 2 of Once Upon A Time, 7chronicles. I can't help but be reminded of the writers' LOST heritage because now we have

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3 universes to keep track of, instead of only 2.

Nice to see a tender moment between Emma and her mother in the latest episode. It looks like Mulan's going to have more than just a one-off appearance - and next week we'll meet Captain Hook (I think Robin Williams in a cameo as Peter Pan, as a nod to Hook, would be humorous, but not very likely.

I know a number of Psych fans, Libby, though I confess I haven't had a chance to see it yet.

But all night, Aslan and the Moon gazed upon each other with joyful and unblinking eyes.

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Topic starter Posted : October 15, 2012 6:54 pm
Liberty Hoffman
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stargazer: ooh, I highly recommend Psych :) it's got the best combination of humor and drama :) they can be totally hilarious, or totally serious :)


NW sister - wild rose ~ NW big sis - ramagut
Born in the water
Take quick to the trees
I want all that You are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EADBC57vKfQ

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Posted : October 16, 2012 5:20 am
Arwenel
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A question that sometimes drives me hazy: am I or are the others crazy? Hospitality Committee

Just caught the last episode of Once Upon a Time ... well.

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Okay, anybody else think that dream thing is gonna come up again?

I love a good shout-out, but i felt a bit overdosed this time. "Very bad form" (to the movie Hook) and "Let's go steal a compass" (to Leverage (:D)) i'm sure about, and i'm wondering if the name 'Neal Cassidy' is a reference to White Collar.

Always nice to see Snow being motherly and Charming being ... grandfatherly. I'm seriously doubting that whole chaining-Hook-up thing is going to work out well, though.

Well, mysterious-guy-in-season-premier has been confirmed to be Henry's dad. I know some are theorizing he's Baelfire, and i have to say i'm wondering if that's the case. I'm pretty sure that, whoever he is, he's not gonna be too happy to find his way to Storybrooke and learn that Emma is currently trapped in the fairy-tale world. I was kinda wondering through-out the episode if he was gonna turn out to be nice and not a real dead-beat jerk, and it was nice to see that he wasn't.

August, August, August ... While it's nice to see he didn't completely abandon Emma, i really hope he was telling the truth about Neal breaking up with Emma being the best thing for her. Though i thought he didn't get serious about the whole curse-thing until Emma first came to Storybrooke and his leg started becoming wood? And of course, what the heck did he show Neal that convinced him?

So many new theories and questioning bits. The writers had better deliver.

Do not be daunted by the enormity of the world’s grief. Do justly, now. Love mercy, now. Walk humbly now. You are not obligated to complete the work, but neither are you free to abandon it. - Rabbi Tarfon

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Posted : November 5, 2012 10:32 am
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Just caught the last episode of Once Upon a Time ... well.

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Okay, anybody else think that dream thing is gonna come up again?

Well, mysterious-guy-in-season-premier has been confirmed to be Henry's dad.
August... And of course, what the heck did he show Neal that convinced him?

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I absolutely believe that the dream will come up again. It can't have been put there for any other reason but to be of importance later. I love the tie-in with Henry's dad. It works well for me. I'm curious too about what August showed Neal. I really am!

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Posted : November 5, 2012 11:39 am
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Thoughts on recently-viewed episodes:

One Upon a Time - ditto to most of the spoilered parts above.

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Nice to see Henry's father about. I'm still curious as to how the child was named, and the appearance of August before Emma went to Storybrooke (perhaps we're inferring things from his statements last season - that he knew to return when the time in Storybrooke began moving forward again - that aren't quite true. Maybe he tried in the meantime

Last Resort - some fun sub battle scenes in the latest episode reminded me of similar scenes in The Hunt for Red October.

Revolution - the previews seemed to promise the backstory of the blackout. But

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they really didn't seem to tell us anything we hadn't guessed: that it was artificial, that Ben and Rachel developed it, and that it somehow fell into the wrong hands and was misused. The bits about Danny's pregnancy were probably the bigger reveal

Castle - the writers had LOTS of fun with this. There's a murder at a scifi/comic convention. Lots of things to see in the costumed characters - including Matt Smith's 11th Doctor - but also in some of the comments the cast makes. Castle talks about good science fiction: "like Star Trek, Battlestar Galactica, and that show Joss Whedon made" - Nathan Fillion's own Firefly. Later Castle imitates Captain...Kirk's...staccato...speech, and quotes Picard's "Let's make sure history never forgets the name Enterprise" while sitting on a captain's chair prop. Added bonuses: the episode was directed by Jonathan Frakes (Riker on TNG) and Armin Shimerman (Quark on DS9) guest stars.

But all night, Aslan and the Moon gazed upon each other with joyful and unblinking eyes.

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Topic starter Posted : November 7, 2012 10:42 am
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