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malkah
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lysander, if you don't mind sending the link, that would be great! :)

then including Emma in the orchestration of Isabella and John's wedding.

They showed her matchmaking for Isabella and John?

And I agree with you; I'm not sure what the Armitage obsession stems from exactly. I thought he gave a very good performance in N&S, but he's not the first actor to do well in a period drama. It would have been interesting to see his take on Knightley, though. Oh well. I can think of worse casting choices than Miller. ;)

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Posted : October 12, 2009 4:35 pm
Bookwyrm
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I watched the first episode of Pushing Daisies last night. It's so adorable, in a morbidly humorous way. I absolutely loved it. And it's been canceled. :( For some reason, I keep becoming a fan of shows after they're dead and gone.

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Posted : October 14, 2009 2:18 pm
TheGeneral
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Is Flashforward that show with Joseph Fiennes and everyone falls over in the preview? I've seen that preview so much, but never got around to watching it :-

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Posted : October 14, 2009 4:01 pm
Warrior 4 Jesus
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TheGeneral, yes, that's FlashForward. Everyone on Earth blacks out for 2 minutes, 17 seconds.

Bookwyrm, Pushing Daisies is great, isn't it?
I've watched the first series so far - Here's my post about it: (bottom of page).
viewtopic.php?f=10&t=185&start=64

I'm currently watching the first series of Dead Like Me. It's pretty good so far (the acting, script, story etc.) but it could have less language and adult themes. Anyway, it's about a girl who's finished high school and is entering the workforce. She's non-committed and pessimistic (sort of like Daria) and hates life. Then she dies in a freak accident and finds her job in the afterlife is to become a grim reaper, where she helps the souls of people who've died due to accidents, murders or suicides. The grim reapers have to steal or find part-time jobs to get by. It's rather a pessimistic and silly view of the afterlife but it's more for creative licence than to discredit Christianity or other faiths. It's only in death, that the girl learns to 'live'. Dead Like Me deals with the taboo topic of death (in the West) in equal parts humour and respect. It's an interesting premise and very quirky. The series is a black comedy/drama. Recommended for older teenagers and adults.

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Posted : October 14, 2009 9:51 pm
Kate
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I watched this week's installment in the Emma series. The story is shaping up nicely. I think we have just one more, right? I see what they mean now about adding more modern elements to the story. We get insights into how the characters are supposedly feeling that we didn't get in the book

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Like Knightley supposedly pining for Emma all along
. Emma also behaves very badly at the ball and in general is too encouraging toward Churchill especially since she isn't really trying to encourage him to have feelings for her. I would go so far as to call her "silly," something that Miss Woodhouse should never be.

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Posted : October 22, 2009 4:11 pm
lysander
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Interestingly, Kate, I thought the latest episode was the best yet. Certainly Romola's eye-popping and grimacing are less prevalent here than they were earlier. Despite the added subtext you mentioned in your spoiler, and the deletion of one of my favorite exchanges ('You have shown that you can dance, and you know we are not really so much brother and sister as to make it at all improper' - 'Brother and sister! no, indeed'), the ballroom scene was quite lovely. For once I have to agree with Miss Bates: it really did look like Fairyland. There seemed to be much more variety to the dances than in most JA adaptations, and the music was lovely.

The modern subtexts and attitudes continue to bother me, though, as does Welch's script in general. How massively overrated is this woman as a screenwriter! And really, while Romola has gotten better as it's progressed, it is nowhere near the best of her work, which saddens me because I've wanted to see her play this role ever since I saw her in Daniel Deronda. :((

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Posted : October 24, 2009 3:51 pm
stargazer
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Last night's Castle was a Halloween episode - a murder mystery with vampires and werewolves thrown in.

But I liked the opening moments the best, which featured a salute to an earlier series Nathan Fillion appeared in, Firefly:

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Castle bursts into the room sporting a long reddish-brown coat and pistol, saying it's his costume. When his daughter asks him what he's supposed to be, I was hoping he'd reply "A Browncoat" - but I figured that would too much of an inside joke. He replied "a space cowboy," which is a good description of what Firefly was like. Alexis replies that there are no cows in space (a possible reference to the episode "Safe" in which the ship transports a herd of cattle). Then she adds that he used that costume about 5 years ago - a reference to the movie Serenity which was a sequel to Firefly.

ABC continues to promote its new series V which premieres next Tuesday. Various video clips, including the first 9 minutes of the pilot, are available here. In addition to familiar faces from Lost and Firefly, I spotted Joel Gretsch, who played Tom Baldwin, the male lead in The 4400.

But all night, Aslan and the Moon gazed upon each other with joyful and unblinking eyes.

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Topic starter Posted : October 27, 2009 6:23 am
lysander
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Watched the final episode of Emma. Some scattered thoughts:

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Posted : October 28, 2009 5:24 am
Shadowlander
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ABC continues to promote its new series V which premieres next Tuesday. Various video clips, including the first 9 minutes of the pilot, are available here. In addition to familiar faces from Lost and Firefly, I spotted Joel Gretsch, who played Tom Baldwin, the male lead in The 4400.

Being a fan of the original V I have to admit I'm looking forward to this incarnation. I thought the original was classic and I'm hoping they'll at least pay some homage to it.

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Posted : October 28, 2009 1:17 pm
stargazer
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I'm with you, Shadowlander. I haven't viewed the original V for a while, and even though it might appear dated due to all the advances in movie/TV graphics in the last 25 years, it was the chilling way the politics and manipulation by the Visitors mirrored, in a modern-day setting, their historical counterparts, that I remember most.

Some of the things I've read, and hints in the video clips I've seen, seem to indicate they'll be addressing some of these same themes (for example, Juliet's - I mean Erica's ;) - son desires to do something big in his life, and it looks like it'll be serving in the Visitors' Peace Ambassador Program).

But I imagine they'll mix it up a bit, to keep it from being too predictable.

But all night, Aslan and the Moon gazed upon each other with joyful and unblinking eyes.

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Topic starter Posted : October 28, 2009 3:32 pm
Kate
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Re: Emma:

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I agree with pretty much everything you said Lys. I especially agree about the "Badly done, Emma!" scene. What terrible scripting. I think Miller did the best he could have with what he was given.

I also didn't like the whole "Going away" theme, but I did like how at the end she was surprised with a trip to the seaside.

I kind of just want to give my thoughts of the miniseries overall rather than nitpicking. Overall, it was an enjoyable adaptation. I don't think I liked Garai's Emma all that much--I prefer the more accurately portrayed serious Paltrow Emma or even the insecurity often shown by Beckinsdale. I did warm to Miller by the end though, even if he did seem a bit weaker than shown by other actors. I really liked Ritson as Elton and most of the rest of the cast was pretty good. I thought the whole Churchill plot could have been handled better. The head in the lap was ridiculous and he was really annoying, but I think that may have been the intention. Even though I seem to have a lot of criticism, I still enjoyed it. The friendship between Emma and Knightley was very nice and I liked how the miniseries gave them the ability to include parts of the books that didn't make it into the other movies.

And the donkey scene was really funny. ;))

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Posted : October 30, 2009 11:31 am
Watziznehm
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Is there anyone here who likes to collect box sets of old TV series? My family does. So far we have: all five seasons of Hogan's Heroes, all three seasons of Gligan's Island. Both of them are different but really funny.

Now, on to ongoing ones. I am a NCIS fan.

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The last show was great and I especially like how in the end everyone thinks "the kid" (sorry but I forgot his name) was Gibbs's son but that, in reality, Gibbs was the one who shot his father. I am waiting in anticipation to see what happens next.

Also has anyone seen the new show NCIS LA? It's pretty good as well.


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Posted : October 30, 2009 2:05 pm
lysander
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Kate, more on Emma:

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I suppose you're right; I shouldn't have given Miller such a hard time about the "Badly done!" scene. It wasn't great delivery, but what could anyone do with that kind of writing?

The end was quite cute, and as in the dance scene, I really liked the music. I just didn't like that the story became about Emma achieving a sort of independence from her father. And I'm not sure we would have gotten the sea scene without that.

I'd have to re-watch the older versions to see how Beckinsale and Paltrow compare to Garai. I have watched clips recently, and I found all of them rather annoying, at least in the beginning - Garai most of all. I can't say I thoroughly disliked her performance, but then I'm such a fan of hers. I didn't like her in the first episode, but she improved exponentially after that, and she did have a few moments of glory, especially the big realization scene in Episode 4. I didn't like her Emma liked I enjoyed her Barbara Spooner and Gwendolen Harleth, though.

Personally, as much as JA fans tend to associate him with the romantic lead because of his performance as Edmund Bertram, I found Ritson too obviously slimy at first as Mr. Elton. But once he came back, accompanied by Christina Cole - utter bliss! They made such a great couple, snarky and thoroughly detestable.

Until the last episode, I actually rather liked this Frank Churchill. He lacked both Ewan MacGregor's disgusting wig and Raymond Coulthard's general cattiness. But he encountered the same problem JLM did in the "Badly done!" scene ... he was given such bad material to work with. Come to think of it, almost the entire Box Hill scene was a fiasco.

Agreed about the benefits of having a full Emma miniseries, and the pleasure given by watching it. I just wish it had been a little better.

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Posted : October 31, 2009 8:13 am
Warrior 4 Jesus
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I've never watched the old V series but the new one looks good.
Flash Forward is decent but has been a bit of a disappointment, so I hope V is better. And of course it stars the beautiful Elizabeth Mitchell of LOST.

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Posted : October 31, 2009 2:12 pm
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I know what you mean about Flash Forward being a bit of a disapointment, Warrior. I haven't seen the last couple of episodes, and it's okay...but not amazing. A lot of the "twists" are really easy to figure out.

Right now I'm rather obsessed with the show Criminal Minds. Anyone else a fan?

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Posted : October 31, 2009 2:43 pm
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