But the innuendo's not "supposed," Val! It really is there . I see I will need to create a comprehensive list of it to produce on demand.

I borrowed The Man Who Knew Too Much from the library. *cue lys to come say how great Hitchcock is*

I'm just popping my head in here for a few moments....if that's alright.

I'm a fan of the 2005 P&P, as it was the first version of P&P that I saw when I was a few years younger, and to me, it's a beautifully filmed story. When I first read that there was innuendo in it (about a year or two after seeing it), things clicked in my mind, basically an "Oh! Yes, now I see that, that makes sense". While I still like it, I am saddened (especially by the apparent stuff), but not really surprised, by that sort of thing, and now my opinion of it is rather lessened. When I actually stop and think about what it really is, I realize to me how serious it is, and I'm not sure what exactly to think anymore... you know? All that to say, I agree with ww and who ever else said that there is innuendo in it, because while I missed it at first, I do believe it is there.

Anyways. I do hope that makes sense and somehow adds to the conversation.

Well at least we all agree on The Prestige WW .

GB

I didn't notice the innuendo in P&P either, but I haven't seen it since I heard there was innuendo, so there's no telling what I'd notice now.

I've actually got The Illusionist on hold at the library right now, so I'll be sure to report back which I prefer.

Accidents happen; what can I say? I didn't think we were *that* far apart though! Isn't it mostly books we can't agree on?

Well...more or less the one book, which I won't mention. Well, who knows, we might like the same movies, but I just have a very hard time visualizing you sticking Predator, Aliens, or Total Recall into your DVD player and enjoying it. But we're definitely on the same page with the Matrix sequels and The Prestige.

I was bored at around 3am this morning and threw in one of what I consider to be the "great" zombie flicks of all time, 28 Days Later. What I consider ironic about the movie is that as it proceeds it has less to do with zombies and more about a group of strangers coming together to form a quasi "family unit" to endure hardships together. As weird as this sounds the underlying family interaction is quite lovely in its own way, if you can get past Rage-infected zombies running around and wanting to bite/infect you every 10 seconds. The whole cast does a great job but Brendan Gleeson definitely was the highlight acting-wise here. Christopher Eccleston's character, Major West, was very well portrayed too.

I quite enjoy reading all of your movie reviews.

Here's a random movie I just watched- Spy Kids 3D: Game Over

It was a flash from the past, let me tell you! The concept of the movie is pretty interesting: a video game that you cannot get out of unless you win- and it's pretty much impossible to win. The creator of the game, simply known as "The Toymaker" (Who is imprisoned in Cyberspace for terrible crimes), has a plan to trap the youth of America in his game and enslave them with mind control. His idea is that if you control the youth, you control the future.

The creators of the movie handled the concept alright in the first part of the movie, but as it progresses things start sliding downhill. The dialogue is choppy from the beginning, but near the end it just starts getting downright ridiculous and even indulgent for the filmmakers.

The concept that could have been really great just dwindles down to a failed attempt by the end. There's this whole bit where "The Toymaker" escapes the game and tries to take over the world with giant metal monkeys. Then the grandpa of the main character goes in and forgives The Toymaker of his crimes, and all is well. Hurrah! Not really. We don't even know what The Toymaker did and why he can just go free because the Grandpa absolved him. Also, the whole sequence when all of the main characters' friends and family come in comes off as stupid and la-dee-da! We are family! Yippee!

All in all, it could have been great (the idea was cool) but it ended up kind of silly.

I've seen all three Spy Kids movies and they got less well-done each movie. The first was really good and really interesting. The second was still interesting, and was rather good, but a little silly. The third was definitely the worst made mainly because it got all cheesy at the end. But the core message was good and it had some redeeming qualities. The concept was good.

P.S."Brooklyn!"

I gotta say I've seen P&P some few times now and have caught no innuendo,
I love that movie!

on other movies:

Flight of the Navigator,
a movie I haven't seen since I was a small six or seven year old in the early 90's. I rented it to see how it aged for me. The first half I remembered nothing about. The second half however I remembered MUCH of it. and I gotta say, I still enjoyed it.

Just like last Sunday I saw The NeverEnding Story,
another movie I hadn't seen since I was a kid. And I loved it more now than I did when I was a kid I think.

I saw the three Spy Kids movies in one day while babysitting some kids. It was kind of sickening.

I still refuse to believe there is innuendo in P&P. Or at least any that I should be worried about. The sermon slip-up to me, is rather funny. It's not particularly rude, or coarse, or crude, and makes Mr. Collins look even sillier.

Despite my upteenth times of watching it, I STILL have yet to find the part where Lizzy "checks out Wickham's backside".

The only thing I do think is very random and out of place (although I wouldn't call it "innuendo" per say",) is the "pig" shot, which I won't elaborate on. It's just...weird. And doesn't fit.

*disappears now*

Yeah, Ryan, I agree completely. I really don't like it how modern movies tend to get worse with each sequel. The movie-makers tend to try to make each movie better than the last and they usually fail quite miserably.

@Val: Innuendo in P&P? The new version or the old? I guess it depends on what you're looking for- and it has never stuck out to me. And yes, the pig part is really weird. It struck me as extremely out of place. I just wonder why the heck they put it in.

The Neverending Story was, is, and will possibly always be, one of my all-time favorite movies. I adored it as a kid and watching it now makes me feel nostalgic in a good way. I laugh at the corny GCI, but still tear up at the Swamp of Sadness/Bog of Discouragement scene.

As I've been sick this past week, I had the opportunity to watch a few movies. One of them was the 1998 Les Miserables with Liam Neeson. I liked it a lot, although I did not like the fact that they took out so much.

I especially disliked the last scene.

So, while I did like it, I was rather disappointed in a few places.

EDIT: I'll comment on the whole "Innuendo in 2005 P&P" later.

P.S."Brooklyn!"

I'm actually gonna take a look and Pride and Prejudice (2005) tomorrow, or possibly later today. I've been wanting to see it again for some time now, and this topic has made me curious.

I asked elsewhere if there was innuendo,
and I got views from both sides: yes there is/no there isn't
so basically I was left the same way.

I've never seen it myself,
but we'll see...

I love the movie The North Avenue Irregulars from the '70s.

I saw Pride and Prejudice but fail to see any innuendo in it.
I loved it now more so than before though.

I followed it by Atonement, which I felt the need to watch.
Simply an amazing movie, as always- I LOVE IT.

(the only two Joe Wright movies I like, I very much disliked The Soloist).

I am now on my third Keira Knightley movie:
Pirates of the Caribbean: The Curse of the Black Pearl

which of course stands to reason that
Dead Man's Chest and At World's End will follow here after.

Joe Wright is a superb filmmaker visually, but his movies leave me with such a sour taste in my mouth. The innuendo in Pride and Prejudice became out-and-out nastiness in Atonement. Blech. I understand that most of it is from the novel, but I do not have to be subjected to that stuff. I actually walked out of it and only came back in when my friends convinced me that it had turned into a war movie.

Going back several pages....

Although Inspector came first, I prefer Kaye's The Court Jester, which has some similar plot elements but (to me) carries them off better.

Unquestionably. I also rather like Up in Arms, which is what first made him a star. In it he plays a hypochondriac who is sent off to war. Great stuff, particularly his extended patter song at the movie theater.

Good thoughts on David Copperfield. I shall have to watch the 2000 version sometime

Good luck! It was never released commercially in the US, and is pretty much impossible to find. I'm lucky that I have a kind grandmother who used to tape such things for me.

My mom thinks Danny Kaye was one of the most brilliant actors ever.

I'm not sure I'd go that far, but in my mind he's certainly one of the most brilliant comedians ever. He was so talented, and The Inspector General shows how well he could deal with flawed material. My friend and I were practically rolling our eyes during the love ballad (and I like romance scenes) when, before he could kiss her, there was a knock at the door, and he motioned for her to be quiet in a way that totally changed the dynamics of the scene.

The Matrix is a pretty good film, in my opinion.

I'll agree with that. It's just not my type of film, that's all. And I don't think I could bear watching the sequels. We watched a bit of a fight scene from the third movie in my Film class, and it was, well, beyond description. We were asked to discuss whether it was over-the-top or not, and one fellow launched into a long argument about how they were all spiritual beings and whatnot, and somehow that made it all right. I almost shouted out, "But it's still over-the-top!"

I'm going to throw myself into the minority and say I actually rather enjoyed The Prestige. Maybe not a movie to watch over and over again, but it was very clever, and had some interesting things to say. The cast was very good too. A friend of mine who is a bit of a Christian Bale fan and doesn't like Hugh Jackman all that much has this to say about the movie:

I borrowed The Man Who Knew Too Much from the library. *cue lys to come say how great Hitchcock is*

This is the Jimmy Stewart remake, I assume? (Hitch filmed the movie twice, once in the 30s and then again in the 50s.) It's not one of my favorites of his films, but it's good fun and the Albert Hall scene is dynamite. Unfortunately, I can't stand "Que sera, sera." This is one I should rewatch.

I'm glad you liked Les Mis overall, Ryan. I do think you need to realize, when looking at the cuts and the relatively early ending, that the film is primarily concerned about the Valjean-Javert dynamics. Thus

Thoughts on my recent viewings later.