I don't mind Lucy having a crush on Caspian. I just don't want him to like her back.

For instance, I could see Lucy having a crush on Caspian (done subtly of course), so that when she looks through the Magician's Book and see's Susan (who kissed him in the previous film) she becomes more jealous and wishes to have great beauty. THey could show during that sequence a fantasy of hers where Caspian defeats several soldiers for her sake, only for that to turn into a nightmare when he gets stabbed by another person who wants Lucy). Then Lucy says to herself she doesnt care because she still wants to be beautiful and then Aslan roars.

I think after the Magician's Book scene though, any Lucy liking caspian should stop. That scene is suppossed to be a turning point for her character.

Hmm, I'm a bit up and down on the new details. It is hard to judge for certain when it's just a description and having not seen it for myself. Let's see:

I still don't really care for the whole mission of finding the seven missing swords. It seems more like a subplot that adds too much extra confusion and unnecessary scenes. As if finding seven missing lords wasn't hard enough.

The idea of the disappearing island, hmm, I need more on this one. At first thought, it seems a bit more of a redundant island compared to what is in the book. However, on further thoughts, perhaps when Lucy reads the spell to make those invisible appear again, it affects this island as well.

The dialogue of "defeating the evil within one's self" seems a bit cheesy still and overused. I'll have to hear the tone of it and how the line is presented to be sure.

The light from Ramandu's daughter. The connection to the star seems cool, but I don't like the connection of having the DT crew following the star to the ends of the world (I just feel like it should be something or, more importantly, someone else guiding them). I have to see it context for the final thought though.

The subtle shots of Lucy are a plus. I like the fact that she looks in the mirror before returning to Narnia and the addition of the snowy landscape and her reaction in the Magician's book (I'm really looking forward to this scene).

Big, big plus in Aslan's dialogue at the end. I'm very glad that it wasn't cut or majorly changed to something with less of an impact.

I can't wait for the theatrical trailer. It'll be nice to see some footage to tell whether or not I should be more pleased and excited about the film or a bit more on edge.

May i agree to disagree. If Lucy crushes on Caspian that is the end of the world for the films. They have got to stop with that sort of nonsense. It was one of the worst things about PC. I really hope they don't make the same mistake again.

I totally see your point. But even though I do not like the crush idea, I do know that there are people out there that will like it. And I am sure that the film makers have to consider someone seeing this movie without seeing any of the others, and from a first time viewer's vision, I could see where the film makers would want to put a little 'romance' in. Does that make any sense?

If Ramandu's Daughter glows like Galadriel or Arwen, I'm okay with it. I seem to recall there being some sort of glow about her and Ramandu in the book. But if it's over the top glowy-ness then I'll hate it.

...I am sure that the film makers have to consider someone seeing this movie without seeing any of the others, and from a first time viewer's vision, I could see where the film makers would want to put a little 'romance' in. Does that make any sense?

Which is why they can go to town with the Caspian/Lilliandil romance, the relationship that is actually in the book. Sounds good to me.

I always wondered what it would have been like if the PC filmmakers wouldn't have jumped the gun with the romance...one film too soon!

Well the thing is all of those people who liked the Caspian/Susan romance are just going to compare the two. I don't understand the need to have romance when there is definitely other things going for the film. Besides the fact that this film does have a romance in it, so just leave that one in and don't add anything else.

IF Lucy had a crush on Caspian, I don't think it would kill the film but it would be ridiculous! Caspian is not the only guy in Narnia and he's too old for Lucy. And what girl wants a guy who's kissed her sister, or been kissed by her sister rather? Honorable girls don't go for their sisters' old crushes. Though I realize Lucy isn't supposed to be quite honorable in the magician's book scene, that's a bit over the top.

I see it now. They are all on the island where dreams come true and Caspian's nightmare involves Lucy, Gael, Jadis, Susan and a girl who squints and has freckles all wanting to marry him. Then Lilliandil comes and uses her magical glow powers to destroy the darkness, expose all seven swords and missing people and put an end to all nightmares. They all live happily ever after until the girl who squints and has freckles takes up black magic and comes back as LGTK and seeks out Rillian because she couldn't have Caspian Oh wait that's not Caspian's nightmare that's a Narnia fan's nightmare.

I am sure they won't do anything so extreme but now that you all have heard tha madness I'm quite sure you can handle whatever they put in the movie as long as it's not as bad as the idea above.

I am sure they won't do anything so extreme but now that you all have heard tha madness I'm quite sure you can handle whatever they put in the movie as long as it's not as bad as the idea above.

Good point. I know that whatever does happen with the romance, I'll still love the movie because I'm such a fan.

And the 'nightmare' made me laugh. Way to be creative.

The fact that Lucy was concerned about her appearance is an idea which is in the book, so in all honesty it would only be reasonable to expect that they maybe draw out that theme across the rest of the story slightly

Is it though? Yes, she is tempted to read the beauty spell, but isn't it because of her jealousy of Susan that she wants to say the spell? Susan is the pretty one, and Lucy is thought of as "one of the youngsters." If Lucy says the beauty spell, according to the pictures she'll be so beautiful that everyone will be paying attention to her instead of Susan. It is when Lucy sees that Susan would be jealous of her that she decides to say the spell.

I seem to recall there being some sort of glow about her and Ramandu in the book.

"...and a light appeared in the doorway, and a figure came out, and the door shut behind it. The figure carried a light, and this light was really all that they could see distinctly....Now they could see that it was a tall girl,...The light which she had been carrying was a tall candle in a silver candlestick..." VDT The Three Sleepers
"Slowly the door opened again and out there came a figure...It carried no light but light seemed to come from it." VDT The Beginning of the End of the World
I had to go and look it up, because I wasn't sure, but Ramandu glows, not RD. Would that support the theory that she's half-star rather than a star herself?

Yeah, I always assumed she was half-star rather than a full star. It wouldn't make much sense for her to be sitting around on the island with her retired dad if she was a star too. But it sounds as if they've promoted her to full-blood star for the movie and considering we've heard no mention of Ramandu, maybe they've just given her his role.

The fact that Lucy was concerned about her appearance is an idea which is in the book, so in all honesty it would only be reasonable to expect that they maybe draw out that theme across the rest of the story slightly

Is it though? Yes, she is tempted to read the beauty spell, but isn't it because of her jealousy of Susan that she wants to say the spell? ... If Lucy says the beauty spell, according to the pictures she'll be so beautiful that everyone will be paying attention to her instead of Susan. It is when Lucy sees that Susan would be jealous of her that she decides to say the spell.

I agree, daughter of the King. Lucy's main problem seems to be jealous of Susan rather than the desire to be beautiful. It isn't until she sees that she will be more beautiful than Susan and that Susan will be jealous but no one will care that she decides to say the spell. Unless I'm totally misreading Lucy's character, she would not have considered the spell after seeing all of the destruction she would cause. I think she would be too kindhearted to want all of those people to die because they were fighting for her beauty. I think if her appearance were the only thing she was worried about it would have shown up more in the book. Jealous tends to only be present when one is thinking of the other. I hope that made sense.

AslanIsOnTheMove, I enjoyed reading the "nightmare" That would be our nightmare.

Ditto on the nightmare Pattertwigs Pal, and AslanIsOnTheMove,

In my very personal opinion, jealousy is a monster. I have a sister who gets a lot more attention and always has. She is my younger sister and I would hate to have even a little part of the drama she goes through every day yet there is still a part that will creep up, just an inkling of a thought of how I want it. Maybe if I had just a little of what she had I could do it better and no one would ever pay attention to her and she would know what it felt like to be ignored or left behind or....

That's enough of that. What I think is most important here is this:
[quote=The Voyage of the Dawn Treader]Then her face lit up till, for a moment (but of course she didn't know it), she looked almost as beautiful as that other Lucy in the picture...For what stood in the doorway was Aslan himself, The Lion, the highest of all High Kings.

This is a different kind of beauty, one that doesn't fade, one that is sparked in our hearts, and one we find only one Way.

I'd really like to know more about these 7 swords though...

So no one would be bothered by a Caspian/Lucy crush. I don't even know what to say.

So no one would be bothered by a Caspian/Lucy crush. I don't even know what to say.

I would be! I just didn't have time to comment on it earlier. A Caspian/Lucy crush would be terrible, pointless, and just plain silly.

So no one would be bothered by a Caspian/Lucy crush. I don't even know what to say.

I would be. The idea is ridiculous and unnecessary, like the Caspian/Susan plot contrivance from "Prince Caspian."

Lucy having a thing for Caspian was one of the stupidest elements from the infamous leaked script. Not to bring it up again, of course.