No I still believe Rhince is Gael's father. i think that person got it mixed up because some one said when they saw the super trailer heard Gael talking to Lucy about finding her missing mother. Her aunt might be someone in the beginning with no huge part. It makes me think how this movie is going to begin. I keep wondering if it's going to open up in the land of Narnia on this island where people are disappearing. I wonder if it has to do with Terebinthia pirates taking them. I remembered in the book that Caspian and his crew were being chased by them. I wonder if they played that out.

No I still believe Rhince is Gael's father.

So do I. But the latetest information indicates that both of her parents disappear, not just her mother. Are they separated and Rhince is found earlier?

I keep wondering if it's going to open up in the land of Narnia on this island where people are disappearing.

I hadn't thought of that, but I hope not. One of the biggest problems with the first two was the fast-paced beginning. It was nice to get the ball rolling, but both movies slowed down quite a bit after the first five-ten minutes, which really hurt the overall pace. Beginning in England I think will work better.

All of the islands are tied together by the plot to find the 7 missing lords! All of the islands either have a lord on them or they find news of the lords (with the exception of burnt island which they could skip in the movie). I don't see how changing the plot from finding the missing lords to finding the missing lord's swords makes the story any more or less episodic! In fact, I think that changing it to looking for the swords makes the entire voyage seem quite shallow. "Who cares about the lords? We just want their swords!" -Is that what we want? Doesn't that seem a bit messed up to you? ... VDT is complete as is. The chapters are tied together very nicely. Claiming that the story is too episodic and needs to be changed sounds like a poor excuse to fiddle with the plot. It reminds me of the old line that PC's flashback makes the story "uncinematic." I'm sorry, but in the hands of a skilled director, the flashback in PC would have worked just fine.

OK, sorry, but I needed to vent a little. I am in need of some hot chocolate.

I completely agree. I don't think VDT need anything to tie it together. When you put it that way, looking for the swords does sound a little shallow. Of course if it is more "bring the lords back if you can but if you can't at least bring their swords" it wouldn't be so bad. I also think flashbacks would have worked just fine in PC. I totally understand the need to vent. Unfortunately, I don't know how to make hot chocolate so I can't offer you any. We might have a mix somewhere ... at the very least I think we have some coco powder. (My dad is the only one in the family that likes chocolate) We do have some chocolate ice cream (and a lot of other varieties).

Well, what to say... it seems to be confirmed that they are in Cambridge at the start so that is good. I guess the idea of Lucy's looking in the mirror is a good one; it just kind of took me off guard. Maybe I'll like it when I see it, but the whole snow out of the magician's book thing seems odd and out of place. As of now, I'm also not crazy about the idea of Eustace shouting "Mother" instead of "Alberta." I don't like the idea that Reep is "paunchier and slightly gray." I never pictured him as old or even middle aged. He seems to active and alive for that.

Early in their voyage, the crew will arrive at an island that is nearly deserted, because people have been disappearing from it. Gael’s parents were among those who disappeared. Apparently, finding the seven lords and seven swords will help recover the missing individuals.

I can handle the idea of people disappearing from an island, especially if it is tied into the slave trade on the Lone Islands. I may change my mind when I see it, but as of now the part about finding the lords and swords in order to help find the missing people sounds very odd and very unnecessary.

As of now I'm also not crazy about the idea that RD is the star they follow and that she has a glowing blue sphere in her body. It just sounds odd. I never thought of her as being a star. I always imagined her as being half star i.e. having a human mother. I'm glad the meaning of the part at the end is same but I was counting on it as being exactly the same as in the book. (Yes, I know I'm picky ).

I never thought of VDT as being any one person's story. I really hadn't thought of any of them in that sense, although I would say that SC has a lot to do with Jill and MN has a lot to do with Digory. VDT, in particular, is not any one person's story. Reep, Caspian, Lucy, and Eustace all go through some kind of change or challenge. Edmund hits some rough spots but he seems a bit more like he is along for the ride rather than to learn something. (He learn quite a bit in LWW after all). Reep sticks to his ideal of nobility and fighting, but he changes enough to throw his sword away at the end.

I don't like the idea that Reep is "paunchier and slightly gray." I never pictured him as old or even middle aged. He seems to active and alive for that.

ditto! I never thought of Reepicheep as old.

As of now I'm also not crazy about the idea that RD is the star they follow and that she has a glowing blue sphere in her body. It just sounds odd. I never thought of her as being a star. I always imagined her as being half star i.e. having a human mother.

Is RD the star? I'm wondering if Ramandu himself is the star. And RD could be glowing because she's half star or something like that. I can't imagine her being the star they follow and appearing to them in human form.

I never thought of VDT as being any one person's story. I really hadn't thought of any of them in that sense, although I would say that SC has a lot to do with Jill and MN has a lot to do with Digory. VDT, in particular, is not any one person's story. Reep, Caspian, Lucy, and Eustace all go through some kind of change or challenge. Edmund hits some rough spots but he seems a bit more like he is along for the ride rather than to learn something. (He learn quite a bit in LWW after all). Reep sticks to his ideal of nobility and fighting, but he changes enough to throw his sword away at the end.

Me either. I think it probably belongs mostly to Caspian, Eustace, Reepicheep, and Lucy, but that's still several characters.

Is RD the star? I'm wondering if Ramandu himself is the star. And RD could be glowing because she's half star or something like that. I can't imagine her being the star they follow and appearing to them in human form.

All I know is that the report said the following:

Dr. Brown also suggested that the “blue star” the Dawn Treader is told to follow may actually be Ramandu’s daughter. If I remember correctly, in her bodily appearance to the crew later on in the trailer, Ramandu’s daughter is seen with a glowing sphere of blue light inside her body, so this connection seems very likely to me.

Stars in Narnia do have a human like form.

Stars in Narnia do have a human like form.

Yes, but they don't travel back and forth from sky to land except when they grow old and retire (or get punished in Coriakin's case). Of course, this could have been changed.

Wow, this seems like a big change. The more we find out about this Gael and her island and finding the swords to save people. This just sounds so bizarre. This adaption could be worse then PC which i didn't think was possible.

I personally don't care if RD aka Lilliandil is the star that Caspian and his crew follow. It makes perfect sense to the idea in the leaked script that Caspian has dreams about a star girl. If this is part of their romantic storyline then I'm not bothered by it at all.

I'm fine with everything but the seven swords nonsense and everything we've been hearing about Ramandu's Daughter and her magic glowy star powers. The more details about her I hear, the more I think she's going to end up looking like this in the movie

Seeing Star Girl as a blue star guiding the Dawn Treader to Ramandu's Island was also in the leaked script, just like people disappearing from islands

I might add the finding seven swords bit in the leaked script had the reason "to break an ancient curse on Caspians forefathers", I hope they changed that since then...

^ I certainly hope not. (edit: oops, my arrow is pointing to 2 post above)

Personally, I'm happy to know a bit more about MLGael, and I'm not to bothered about the addition to the story in itself. It just worries me because if they have that much of a subplot, it's going to take up time that could be better spent elsewhere. Which means other stuff will get cut. Also, didn't we hear that 7 islands were reduced to 5? If the "disappearing island" counts as one of them, then would it be fair to say that there will be only 4 of the islands based in book VDT? Or is the disappearing island simply part of one of the 5 islands (ie. the Lone Islands)?

I'm not too keen on the Seven Swords, simply because it sounds like a useless addition. What's the point? It seems strange and unnatural. I mean, what are they going to do? "Oh, we've found another Lord. Now.. *looks around* where's his sword?" And how exactly does collecting swords help recover vanished people?

There are a couple of really nice touches that I can't wait to see, so I guess it all balances out and my feelings about the movie are.. roughly the same.

10 days until the trailer!
(will the trailer be here on Narniaweb on the 18th? - I probably should have asked this question elsewhere.. but )

Maybe the Seven Swords unlock the entrance to the Giant!Soul-Eating!Snake! cave?

See you joke, but who knows what they will do. I just hope they get the Eustace being undragoned scene right. Aslan has to do it because Eustace can't do it for himself. That is sort of my only hope at this point.

That is sort of my only hope at this point.

I guess experience has shown that it's best not to have any hope whatsoever

And who knows Bookwyrm I wouldn't even be surprised. I mean, the chances that the invented reason for the swords is a good one that makes some sense is really slim by now.

One thing I neglected to mention in the spy report was that before we saw the actual trailer, Dr. Brown showed us a short clip of an interview with Micheal Flaherty of Walden. In the interview, he talked about the story, and he was clearly concerned about the spiritual implications of VDT.

In fact, Dr. Brown related an anecdote about Mr. Flaherty that I found to be pretty enlightening. When they were filming "Amazing Grace," Mr. Flaherty insisted that they keep an important line of dialogue by John Newton (I may be paraphrasing here): "Two things I remember. I am a great sinner, and Christ is a great Savior." In fact, if I remember right, Mr. Flaherty said he would quit if this line wasn't left in.

That may mean little to those of you who are disturbed by the changes made to VDT, but I think it at least shows the sincerity of the filmmakers (one of them, at least).

The undragoning will certainly not be left out, because the super trailer has a bit where you can just barely see the shadow of a dragon flying across the screen. This was pointed out in the earlier report:

http://www.narniaweb.com/2010/05/narnia ... onference/

All that to say this. The filmmakers are not as stupid and insensitive to the fans as you may think they are! I for one am very hopeful for this film!!!