Shouldn't this be in the rumors section?

Why? It's not a rumor. It's a suggestion, based on fans' responses to Fox 2000 (and really 20th century fox). In other words, where does the Narnia franchise go from VDT? Do they stick with Fox or not? Or find another subgroup of Fox as a distributor? I'm trying to generate a conversation. There is no rumor here...

Oh. Anyways, FoxFaith might be a good choice. However Fox is a better distrbutor from what I've seen. SC might get more money with it's distributed in more countries.

It's okay. Just a misunderstanding.

About Fox 2000 (subdivision of 20th Century Fox - not the same): I don't know if they're a better distributor or not. This is why I gave links to their films, as compared with Fox Faith. Does the latter distribute in foreign countries though? If not, I guess it's not an option.

FYI: Mods and admins, NW hates me! Pages won't load! Is the problem the website or Google Chrome? Aargh!

On a technical level, i can't imagine there is a great difference between the various sub-distribution labels that operate within 20th Century Fox, so i don't think there is much to be gained from repositioning Narnia under a different brand umbrella - though a move up from "Fox 2000" to the regular "20th Century Fox" would surely bring with it more money.

However, as for FoxFaith, i unfortunately can't see that being anything other than a step-down from the current position on Fox's second-tier distribution label to one of the more niche labels. I also think it would be a very bad move from a financial point of view to pigeon-hole the Narnia franchise as a strictly christians only film. Whilst the audience for the Narnia films has had a strong Christian core, the vast majority of the worldwide has undoubtedly been predominantly non-christian. Having the movie branded right off the bat as a "Faith" movie would deter more people than it would attract.

Yeah, back when we first heard that Fox was picking up the franchise I wondered if Fox Faith would be the distributer, but no, Fox 2000 got it instead.

I agree with Icarus, in terms of film distribution, Fox 2000 is the better of the two companies. Fox 2000 has had quite a few bigger budget films lately so the label would look better to the industry. I think Fox 2000 will continue to distribute the franchise.

(With that being said, I noticed on Fox Faith's site that they are selling Ramona & Beezus, which is a Fox 2000 picture. Perhaps the video distribution of VDT will get the Fox Faith label anyway? Or maybe Fox Faith isn't so much of a production company as a way for Fox to sell their more Christian-friendly movies? )

I have to agree that changing to FoxFaith would put Narnia films into a niche market which would do more harm than good. I haven't heard of most of the movies in that list, possibly because they never reached the Australian market generally.

I agree that Passion of the Christ did well in 2004. But then it was one film that did reach Australia. Its director was Mel Gibson, who has lived in Australia for part of his life. We saw the movie when it came out, and I have access to the DVD, should I want to see it again. But this was a controversial film which was accused of racism for its handling of Christ's crucifixion. I thought the somewhat gruesome film blamed Roman soldiers and the Jewish mob just as much, myself. But Mel Gibson, himself, hasn't helped matters since by his bad behaviour being reported in the press.

C.S.Lewis, himself, was a well-known Christian advocate whose imagination led to the Narnia stories. LWW has been a success, and whilst PC did not generate the same enthusiasm, it also did well. LWW's themes were strongly related to the core stories of Christianity. PC's theological messages about people losing their way and losing sight of their beliefs probably would not generate the same enthusiasm.

The jury is still out for VDT. Even before the film was released there was a bit of a controversy here on NarniaWeb due to the idea that Eustace only got undragonned because he earned it, although the film clearly shows his repentance and his inability to undragon himself. It seems that originally this idea was a bone of contention at a meeting, and was a Fox suggestion, not a Walden one. And the other obvious theological messages of the film of temptation, the consequences, the need for repentance, and the need for understanding who you are and valuing what you represent, have not gone down as well as one would expect with Christian fans here on NarniaWeb.

When VDT is being measured against Golden Compass, based on a book written by the specifically anti-Narnia author Philip Pullman, and when literary figures continually criticize C.S.Lewis' Narnia books, would it really benefit future movies to draw them into a more openly Christian niche market?

When a distributor like Foxfaith can do whatever it did to upset 220CT about the story of Esther, a biblical character, and the wife of Xerxes, the Persian king who invaded Greece in 480 BC, what would it do to misrepresent other Narnia films?

FoxFaith was a stupid idea to begin with. As Christians we shouldn't be trying to segregate ourselves from society and our communities, but living in them and helping to redeem them. FoxFaith should never have existed in the first place.

I haven't seen Hassadah: One Night with the King but it can't be all that violent. It did receive a PG rating after all. Or did you mean 'two hours of torture', in that it was a terrible movie?

I think cause it was a terrible movie... I saw it and yeah, it was pretty bad.

Oh and I agree about FoxFaith... Big studio trying to appeal to the Christian masses... They'd have more credibility IMO if they just released them under the Fox name... Otherwise its like saying "ok these are the films for everyone that we like to blow millions of dollars on... and these are the cheap christian films for the little church goers who like to see "Christian" movies regardless of quality."

I agree with Warrior 4 Jesus! Even though I'm a Christian too I just don't find it right for film companies to segregate people like that This isn't the 20th century anymore. No I wouldn't want SC with FoxFaith.

I think it would do better to stay with where ever it is. I don't understand all of these subgroup things. Apparently, Fox isn't just Fox? I can understand a company being strictly a Christian one, but I don't see why a company would have to have a Christian subgroup.

I've seen Saving Sarah Cain and The Ultimate Gift. Saving Sarah Cain was based on The Redemption of Sarah Cain and strayed majorly from the book. If that is any indication of how FaithFox influences things, I don't want them near Narnia. (we've had more than enough inaccuracies). The Ultimate Gift was good, but I never would have described it as having "overtly Christian" content. It did mention Jesus but if I remember correctly it was only one scene in a chapel but I've only seen it once so I'm not sure.

Agree with Movie Aristotle about Fox Faith being a means of promoting Fox's faith-related products. Looking at that link 220C provided it appears Fox Faith is the category Fox puts on all of its "spiritual" (non-Christian as well as Christian) related DVD releases. They have a Deepak Chopra DVD in there (which isn't considered evangelical Christian material). It looks more like a DVD distributing brand Fox is using to promote their faith-related movies. I still think actual production money for future theatrical films is from the main 20th Century Fox studio itself and of course should still fund Silver Chair if it's ever made.

And when Deepak Chopra is mentioned, why am I automatically thinking of Indian cooking? You know the sort of menu items, such as curry, vindaloo, mulligatawny soup etc.

Come to think about it, whilst on the BOM site I found out this information. It appears on BOM that VDT is the fourth most successful Christian movie ever. Behind Passion of the Christ and the two previous Narnia films. What does this suggest to you about filming the rest of the series?

That all the previous explicity Christian films failed miserably? I don't think saying "Well, this movie was barely more than a flop, but it did better than all these other movies that were definitely flops." is going to win over the people who have their jobs on the line at Fox.

As for the Fox Faith idea, I'm against it. I don't see how it would do the franchise any good and could potentially hurt the franchise by connecting it with the sort of soppy drek that comes out of the Christian film industry. The last thing we need is for people to think SC is another Fireproof.