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narnialover101
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In the latest news Tamara reported that a scene is being filmed on the Dawn Treader in which Caspian and Edmund are swordfighting. According the the news it was just a friendly skirmish:

They were filming a sword fighting scene but it looked like a playful fight because all the Narnian crew were egging them on and cheering and clapping at the end.


While I think there is an ever so slight possiblity that it isn't, I'm mostly convinced that it must be; if you look at THIS picture you'll see the crew is smiling as they watch Caspian and Edmund fight.

I feel like a playful fight is a good idea; perhaps a gimmick to get more action in the movie, yes, but I'd rather it be in this sort of way then in some angsty teenage duel or epic underwater battle. Besides that I feel like a friendly skirmish is realistically something the Narnians would have done for entertainment.

Perhaps this accounts for some of the rumors of "pitched battles" and Caspian/Edmund tension?

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Topic starter Posted : September 9, 2009 5:10 am
ForeverFan
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I think it will be an interesting addition- if, of course, it if just a friendly battle. (But so far, I have many reasons to believe it is, so I'm not too worried). If it's not, however, I won't like it, as it probably means there'd be more then just this little duel/battle thing, running throughout the movie.

I think it'd be great if it did account for the pitched battles...although, why would Ben use that term for something like a friendly duel?

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Posted : September 9, 2009 5:23 am
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Interesting! Glad to see that it's a friendly duel by all accounts; I don't think I could handle another petulant "Who's da man?" kind of duel that we had in PC on nearly multiple occasions. ;))

A bit bummed to see that Caspian is using Rhindon; I was really hoping he'd retire that thing in state and use a different sword. But, I guess not... :p

Also, in the news story you can see a pic of Lucy climbing the stairs into the boat for filming. I don't think that's Georgie; the profile is all wrong. Stand-in or photo double, perhaps?

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Posted : September 9, 2009 5:38 am
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List of theories for why they are swinging their swords

Since Edmund's been away, he may want to sharpen his fighting skills.

Training in general to keep the boredom away.

It is after the un-dragoning and they are showing Eustace the proper way to hold his sword.

Maybe the "pitched battle" comment has something to do with Deathwater?

Posted : September 9, 2009 5:54 am
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Starkat, I like the idea of them showing Eustace the proper way to swordfight. Or, maybe, at the beginning Caspian might make a friendly joke about rusty skills and Edmund shows him what for in a friendly duel. Either way works for me. Honestly, I don't even mind if this isn't a friendly swordfight, as long as I get to see Edmund using a sword...and hopefully win.


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Posted : September 9, 2009 6:19 am
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I feel like a playful fight is a good idea; perhaps a gimmick to get more action in the movie, yes, but I'd rather it be in this sort of way then in some angsty teenage duel or epic underwater battle. Besides that I feel like a friendly skirmish is realistically something the Narnians would have done for entertainment.

That sums up my interpretation of this scene. Looks like Caspian and Edmund are engaging in a friendly bit of swordplay for the benefit of themselves and the crew. Will be interesting to see what brings it on. /:)

I like the idea of such a scene.

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Posted : September 9, 2009 6:24 am
caboo29
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If this is towards the beginnning, I can see Eustace being totally appalled at this. "Fighting with swords, for fun?!?" :-o haha Should make for a funny moment. Seeing as Eustace has been brought up all spoiled and babied, and never reading the right books about swords and dragons and such.

Love all these new smilies by the way! :p

Edit:

Also, in the news story you can see a pic of Lucy climbing the stairs into the boat for filming. I don't think that's Georgie; the profile is all wrong. Stand-in or photo double, perhaps?

Yeah, that is definitely not Georgie, wonder why they might need a stunt double for her... :-

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Posted : September 9, 2009 6:47 am
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We're gonna be forever analyzing this of course, but my guess is that it's only a brief scene.

I hope Ben has been practicing, Skandar was the most believable fighter in PC, and Ben was perhaps the least believable.


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Posted : September 9, 2009 8:12 am
icarus
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Perhaps they originally wrote the scene as an "Edmund Vs Trumpkin: Round 2" scene. ;)

Although i'm mostly joking, its perhaps something i could of seen them doing had they kept Trumpkin in the movie - Trumpkin fancying his chances at a rematch, and a bit of playful fighting ensuing on deck.

Edmund vs Caspian though - sure, why not. As long as it is just a playful fight, then absolutely no problem.

Posted : September 9, 2009 8:40 am
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... a brief scene as a precursor to Eustace being challenged by Reepicheep? :D

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Posted : September 9, 2009 8:51 am
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I'm sure it's a playful fight, can't wait to see it in the film. And yeah, I don't think that's Georgie, Gymfan15, sure doesn't look like her.

Posted : September 9, 2009 9:37 am
icarus
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A very interesting idea Ceppault. I could very much see that being the case.

There is a video of the scene on YouTube by the way:

How does that new "Youtube" button/tag on the forum work? I assume it allows you to have the video embedded in the thread?

EDIT:

Posted : September 9, 2009 9:48 am
JadistarkilleR
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well would ya look at that, Edmund and Caspian are sparring. this must be one of those scenes that Ben joked in an interview about the kids.... raining on his parade (he said it the British slang way, just clarified it for the rest of the non-British slang speaking world ;) )

sure its not in the book, but i like the physical, and hopefully, verbal, sparring that they can muster up between Caspian and Edmund. both Ben and Skandar excel in that kind of banter offscreen anyway so it would be a boon to have them do that onscreen. and its not like its gonna be out of character, there’s bound to be some pretty good ribbing going on– Edmund is now the only remaining Kings of old, is technically older than Caspian, but still looks every bit like the Telmarine’s junior. it would be nice to have fun with that dynamic

... a brief scene as a precursor to Eustace being challenged by Reepicheep? :D

LOL! quite possibly. maybe Eustace fancies on a sword when he thinks he's alone, swinging it about then nicks Reep accidentally (or clumsily)?

i just realized the comedy potential of this entire cast. i dont want them to go overboard with the laughs but i really dont mind some humor sprinkled between the awe-inspiring magic and seriously dark elements.


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Posted : September 9, 2009 10:38 am
Gymfan15
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A very interesting idea Ceppault. I could very much see that being the case.

There is a video of the scene on YouTube by the way:

How does that new "Youtube" button/tag on the forum work? I assume it allows you to have the video embedded in the thread?

Icarus, you just copy the ID tag in between the Youtube tags, like this:

[youtube]wuOR06Xi4ZU[/youtube

Thanks for the link, btw! My computer's sound system is blown so I'm off to find a computer that I can use to watch the video with sound. The clip looks nice; they're sure going at it fast!

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Posted : September 9, 2009 10:54 am
icarus
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Ah right. Got it. Thanks very much Gymfan! I'll remember that for next time! :)

EDIT: Might go give it a try actually..... ;)

Posted : September 9, 2009 11:19 am
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