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ValiantArcher
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AJ, re: TLJ, how have you seen the

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Casino subplot compared to the Cloud City subplot? The only thing they got out of it was the hacker - and I still don't know if they got the right one (it was indicated that he wasn't, but I think he had the brooch?). Cloud City in Episode V had some major parts - introduction of Lando, Han being taken out of commission, Han and Leia's "I love you" & "I know" (important for their character progressions), and - most important of all - Luke and Vader's fight and revelation of relation.
Very good point, though, about the Casino plot being unsatisfying in this movie - even if it somehow ends up being important to the next movie, it has to make sense and fit in this movie...
SAME about Leia flying through space - it was really cheesy and terrible, like some intergalactic Mary Poppins but without any of the charm... XD I did like her using the Force, but for this to be her only instance of it - it seems terribly out of place and HUGE.

Some days you battle yourself and other monsters. Some days you just make soup.

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Posted : January 6, 2018 2:18 am
AJAiken
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Valia, also regarding TLJ,

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it was a discussion that didn't go into much detail but suggested that the Casino subplot being unsatisfying mirrored the Cloud City subplot being unsatisfying at the time. It's difficult to imagine Episode V (I realise I wrote the wrong movie above - I'll edit it!) without Episode VI now, but at the time it must have felt unsatisfying at least to some degree. I wasn't including the Luke/Vader fight in my thinking, so a better comparison may be the Poe/Finn/Rose plots compared with the Leia/Han/Lando plot. The hacker - DJ? - could be another Lando. If he's in Episode IX, that is. There was a reflection of "I love you"/"I know" in Rose's declaration after saving Finn. But overall I felt it was Poe who really developed.

This sequel trilogy is taking a lot of cues from the original trilogy, so I'm guessing there will be things that all tie up eventually. It's strange to think that I might like this movie more after seeing the next one ...

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Posted : January 8, 2018 12:55 am
narnia fan 7
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Has anyone seen Justice League?

I saw it, but I keep forgetting that I did. It was a complete in one ear out the other kind of movie. That not to say it was completely terrible there is some entertaining things about it, but I think it's saying something when the only engagement I had in the movie was looking for were they CG 'd out Henry Cavill's mustache.

Concerning the TLJ talk,

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I've seen a lot of people say that the point of the Casino subplot was too show Finn commuting to the Resistance's cause. Since in TFA his goal was just to get away from The First Order not fight them, and the only reason he helped the Resistance was to save Rey. And that by seeing all the corruption, greed, and selfishness of the Casino people and DJ, he decides to stop running and fully commit to the Resistance and to fighting The First Order.

I think that maybe right, but I think the execution was sloppy and it takes up WAY to much screen time. I think they needed to trim the fat and make it a little more streamlined, and I could have done without the space-horse chase.

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Posted : January 11, 2018 9:40 am
narnia fan 7
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Apologizes for the double post.

I saw Black Panther and it was okay I guess. Like most of the MCU films it's well made and entertaining, through I thought the visual effects look really bad in places. And honestly I was kind of bored through most of it, there is some interesting stuff, but I was indifferent to the story and I didn't really find any of the characters that engaging, everything felt vary flat to me.

I also saw The Shape of Water which I didn't like vary much at all. It's vary well made the acting, directing and cinematography were all vary good. But I thought the story and especially the characters were really weak, and

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the "romance" between the main character and the "fish-creature" was just gross and disturbing,
I know that's not what the film intended, but... Eww.

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Posted : February 19, 2018 6:31 am
AJAiken
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Hmm, I've been thinking about going to see The Shape of Water.

In the last few weeks I've seen Early Man, Coco, Black Panther and The Greatest Showman.

Black Panther is good. I like the characters a lot - it's nice to have a main character who is nice, and has a good relationship with his family. It does feel slow in parts, but I like the change of pace from some of the other Marvel movies (perhaps particularly Thor Ragnarok). I like it, but it's not the strongest Marvel film.

I was disappointed in Early Man. I'm a huge Aardman fan, but though the animation and quirkiness is there some of the magic of previous outings like Chicken Run, The Pirates! In an Adventure with Scientists! and Wallace and Gromit is missing. I think Shaun the Sheep Movie was better.

Coco is really sweet, and unexpectedly emotional. I think it's the best Pixar film since Up. (Though I know people love Toy Story 3 and Inside Out, I don't quite get them. They're good films but they didn't make me giddy with joy in the same way as some of Pixar's earlier films.) My only problem with Coco is

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that I figured out what was going to happen very early on, as it was 'revealed' so quickly and obviously that Ernesto de la Cruz is Miguel's great-great-grandfather that I didn't trust it to be true, and immediately latched on to Hector as the alternative.

I really didn't know what to expect when I went to see The Greatest Showman as I'd read both positive and negative reviews of it, but the film had me hooked from the very beginning. I love it! There's a sweetness, joy and power to the story. From what I've heard since it's not very accurate, so that may turn some people off; I don't know much about P. T. Barnum so I gleefully accepted whatever was on screen. The songs work well to move the plot forward at key moments, and feel very much part of the piece. I also enjoyed the theatrical reveals and tricks of the cinematography; I'm not sure how best to describe this, but, especially in musical numbers, the visuals flowed. Though the songs are good, they're made even better with the visuals. Overall, I think if you like musicals you'll like this.

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Posted : February 21, 2018 12:42 am
Puddleglum
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I don't post much on this one, but The Mrs., and Ihave been going to the theatrs a bit lately to ward of "cabin fever" during these winter months.
The Greatest Showman was an excellent film. Not historically correct by a long shot, but non-the-less a good family film with a great message, and musical score.
Wonder I will recommend to everyone. It was well written, and acted. I especially enjoyed the way it blended all the main characters into the story, and did not just focus on the son.
Black Panther. Just saw it the other day. Also well written, with a slight social/political spin so needed today. I really enjoy the main character of T'Challa. From first seeing him in "Captain America Civil War" he has shown a true maturity, and desire for taking a moral stand that is beyond most "super heros" we see today, with the possible exception of Captain America.

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Posted : February 24, 2018 2:34 pm
narnia fan 7
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I saw A Quiet Place and I thought it was pretty good overall. The best thing about it is the execution, the premise itself is a little silly I thought, but the movie has a unique style and the directing and attention to detail was great. I think the first half is better then the second half and there were several dumb character decisions that took me out of the movie, but not enough to completely ruin it.

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Posted : April 10, 2018 4:35 am
waggawerewolf27
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One movie I did see over Easter was A wrinkle in time, which some of you may have already seen. I read the book years ago and thought it was an interesting story, and also used it in a TAFE Children's Literature assignment I had to do in 1968 for my first vocational qualification, where I compared it with Narnia, Alice in Wonderland, Animal Farm and a few others, including Tolkien's The Hobbit and another one called The phantom tolbooth.

This 2018 film is the second movie adaptation of Madeleine L'Engle's book. This adaptation, in which Whoopi Goldberg stars as a competent, if over-the-top, Mrs Which, did cover the basic story, but we agreed the directorial choices might have been a bit different. Although I remembered the story quite well, there seems to be much that is left out, which bothered me.

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These omissions included the absence of Meg's twin brothers and Aunt Beast, the sightless furry creature who comforted Meg after her escape from Camazotz. And I was disconcerted that the film, unlike the Wikipedia article insists that Charles Wallace, Meg's 5 year old brother was adopted, which wasn't my impression in 1968

The colour palate and some of the landscapes, plus special effects were awesome, but rather 1950'ish from my point of view. However, how many others who went to see it would concur with my admittedly nostalgic memories of books, graphics and illustrations from that time? The bit that disturbed me most was

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the depiction of "It" as some sort of eerie 1990's computer video games take-over, as well as the depiction of people who were not quite real. A scene from the movie, the children of Camazotz bouncing balls in unison, certainly reinforced this impression.

I still enjoyed the film and honour how Madeleine L'Engle's creative vision has echoed down to the present.

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Posted : April 10, 2018 8:54 pm
AJAiken
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I love Madeline L'Engle's book, though I read A Swiftly Tilting Planet before A Wrinkle in Time for some reason. I was planning to go see the film but the reports I heard about some of my favourite scenes and themes being stripped out put me off. It's no longer showing at my local cinema, but I'll try to see it sometime.

Over the weekend I saw Isle of Dogs which I really enjoyed. I'm not a big fan of Wes Anderson, though I've only a couple of his films. Moonrise Kingdom I just didn't understand. It makes no sense to me whatsoever. Fantastic Mr. Fox I disliked because though the animation is good I don't think it's anything like Roald Dahl's book. With Isle of Dogs, I liked the quirkiness and was drawn into the story. The heart of the film is a story about a little boy looking for his dog, and the bizarre events that precede it and follow seem completely justified in the universe Wes Anderson and the animators create.

The film looks great, and I love the use of 2D animation within the stop motion environments. Anything displayed on a video monitor is animated in 2D, even if it's replaying something previously shown in stop motion. It's not for very young children, though. (There are a few distressing moments, and lots of 'oogly' ones.) I recommend it - it surprised me and it may surprise you too.

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Posted : April 15, 2018 11:47 pm
Valiant_Nymph
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I recently watched the first film Will Poulter did, 'Son of Rambow.' It is a sweet film, and Poulter did a fantastic job, even at that young age. Has anyone seen it?

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Posted : May 4, 2018 1:16 pm
Movie Aristotle
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Can't say that I have. Was it good?

Also: How 'bout that Infinity War? How do you think Markus and McFeely did on their latest Marvel script?

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Posted : May 7, 2018 3:12 pm
Valiant_Nymph
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Can't say that I have. Was it good?

Also: How 'bout that Infinity War? How do you think Markus and McFeely did on their latest Marvel script?

Yes, I liked it and would recommend it. Will Poulter is fantastic. My only complaint about the film is that the ending came on too quickly and felt rushed.

I haven't seen Infinity War. What do you think about it?

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Posted : May 7, 2018 3:25 pm
AJAiken
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Son of Rambow is a great film. It's been a while since I last saw it, I should watch it again! I think it does a good job of exploring some difficult issues without becoming too dark.

Infinity War ... I had such a good time watching it. I saw it on opening night, and it was probably the rowdiest screening I've ever been to in the UK. (The first few times I saw films in the US and Canada I was shocked when people whooped and clapped and yelled. That just doesn't happen here.) It probably helped that a sequence near the beginning of the film was shot in Edinburgh, so it was fun to see a place I (and most people in the cinema) knew well on screen.

The thing I enjoy so much about the Marvel movies is how each character has such good development, and a lot of time is spent on that in their individual movies. That suffered in the previous Avengers movies - understandably, given the number of characters on screen. In Infinity War there are SO MANY CHARACTERS that none of them develop. But it would be impossible to do that for all of them, so perhaps it's unfair to complain about it. What happens instead is

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that Thanos is the one who is developed. Not that he learns anything in particular (though wouldn't it be fun if Marvel could redeem him after this) but the audience learns about him. Perhaps that's my issue about the film after all. No one really learns anything except the audience. And instead of the dark night of the soul being in the middle of the film, it's at the very end. Marvel is now sending the audience on its very own hero's journey.

I'd be interested to know what people who see it who haven't seen all the other movies think. There weren't any explanations of who people were, it just got on with the story.

It's not my favourite Marvel film, but I may like it more when it's in context with the next part of the story. But overall, I liked it!

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Posted : May 7, 2018 11:04 pm
narnia fan 7
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I really liked Infinity War. Going in I was just a little concerned that would end up being a clustered mess with the sheer amount of characters it has to balance. But I think they did a great job with that, a lot of characters don't really have a lot of screen time or development and given that most of them have had multiple films of development it's hard for me complain about that.

I thought Thanos was great. I was impressed by how they managed to make him empathetic without really going the full sympathetic villain route. And he's me of the few MCU villains that I've found legitimately intimidating.

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Posted : May 8, 2018 4:06 am
Valiant_Nymph
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I really liked Infinity War. Going in I was just a little concerned that would end up being a clustered mess with the sheer amount of characters it has to balance. But I think they did a great job with that, a lot of characters don't really have a lot of screen time or development and given that most of them have had multiple films of development it's hard for me complain about that.

I thought Thanos was great. I was impressed by how they managed to make him empathetic without really going the full sympathetic villain route. And he's me of the few MCU villains that I've found legitimately intimidating.

Thanks. I might check it out in a couple of weeks, once I'm done all my exams.

What movies are you looking forward to this summer? To be honest, I don't have anything in mind, and I haven't been to the movies in awhile. I find I'm tired of all the reboots/prequels/sequels and all. 8-| I'd love to know if there is anything exciting coming up .

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Posted : May 9, 2018 1:12 pm
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