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Shantih
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Shantih, Irish sounds so cool, I saw documentery once about Irish in America and there was one part there where something was said in Irish (I think it was a song or poem or something, can't remember exactly cause I saw the documetery when I was like 9, maybe younger) and it was really beautiful and I really liked it. I dream of learning it someday. Is it a very difficult language?

It's generally considered to be sort of on the middle of the scale with regards to difficulty - for example, much harder than it would be for an English speaker to learn French, but probably not as hard as something like Japanese. A lot of the difficultly is in the reading/pronunciation - it uses the same alphabet as English, but the letters have different rules. For example "bh" represents "w" or "v" sound, so you have to retrain your brain to think of those sounds instead of what you're used to. The grammar is also very different from English. But considering you already speak a second language so well you'd probably find things a bit easier than me!

One thing I find really interesting is that every language has certain sayings thtat if you translate them they sound so weird :p like in Russian we have a saying when a person is very suprised or shocked that his eyes climbed up to his forehead....but as you see in English it sound SO weird :p
Same thing in English, I was translating some English sayings in Russian and I was like 'huh, this doesn't make any sense, someone remind me why I decided to do this :p )

Very true, I often find myself translating a funny saying from Irish then realising it isn't quite so snappy in English ;)) My personal favourite is "Go nithe an cat thú is go nithe an diabhal an cat" or "May the cat eat you, and may the cat be eaten by the devil."

While we're here, here's 1-10 in Irish (the 'ckth' sound is a bit like the 'ch' in 'loch', but a bit harder)-

1. aon (aine)
2. dó (doh)
3. trí (tree)
4. ceathair (kaher)
5. cuíg (cooig)
6. sé (shay)
7. seacht (shockth)
8. ocht (uckth)
9. naoi (nee)
10. deich (jeh)

Some aren't that different to English/Spanish/French etc :)

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Posted : June 4, 2012 12:53 pm
MinotaurforAslan
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All I know is English, my native language, and Spanish, sort of. From several years of taking it in school I have learned all the grammar rules and a fair bit of vocabulary. I can write full-fledged essays and read spanish rather well. I am terrible at speaking it, though. I live in an area with many native Spanish speakers and whenever a situation comes up where I have the opportunity to talk in spanish I always get tongue tied and afraid that I'll make a mistake, and then speak in broken sentences. :P The only time I've ever been fully immersed in the language is when I went to Mexico City for a week a few years ago, back when I didn't know spanish at all. I'd love to spend a significant amount of time in a Spanish speaking country and really practice.

Posted : June 14, 2012 7:41 pm
Fire Fairy
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My first language is English, and since I'm an English major and fascinated with etymology, I know English practically inside and out.

I took three years of French (although it was set up so I technically only made it to year two) in Junior High, but I've forgotten much of it. I could pick out the gist of what Lady Arwen was saying, but not all of it. I do better reading it than hearing it. I would have continued learning it in High School, except I went to a French convention at the University and was scared off by how hard it was to follow along (I'm ashamed to admit).

My current fascination is Japanese. I've picked up a bit from watching anime and reading the subtitles, and I've taken some lessons from http://www.mangolanguages.com. I love figuring out the literal meanings of different phrases, which is actually kind of easier when learning it via anime, because different translators would sometimes translate the same phrase in different ways. I love how polite the Japanese are, and the honorifics system fascinates me. I can think up a few phrases off the top of my head.

私は火の妖精です。 Watashi-wa hi no yosei desu. I am Fire Fairy.
私の名前は火の妖精です。 Watashi-no namae-wa hi no yosei desu. My name is Fire Fairy. (Literally: My name fire's fairy (or fairy of fire) is.)
私は英語と少し日本語話します。 Watashi-wa eego to sukoshi nihongo-o hanashimasu. I speak English and a little Japanese.
いい天気ですね。 ii tenki desu, ne. Nice day, isn't it?
お名前は何ですか? Onamae-wa nan desu ka? What's your name? (Literally: As for the name, what is it?)

I know several more phrases and stuff, but my brain is fried right now. And since I've learned a lot of my Japanese watching Detective Conan, my vocabulary base has some strange words in there, like 殺人 satsujin (murder) and 自殺 jisatsu (suicide). But I digress.

Last summer I worked as a temp, and one of the jobs was for a name tag company. It involved a lot of counting to keep track of how many name tags you assembled, and it was SO boring, I ended up counting in four different languages: English, Spanish, French, and Japanese. I can count indefinitely in English (obviously), to ten in Spanish, to about forty or fifty in French, and to 100 in Japanese (it's incredibly easy, unlike the Latin-based and Germanic languages, as long as you know the basic ten), but for the sake of length, I'll only count to ten in each.

English -- One, Two, Three, Four, Five, Six, Seven, Eight, Nine, Ten.
Spanish -- Uno, Dos, Tres, Quatro, Cinco, Seis, Siete, Ocho, Nueve, Dies.
French -- Un, Deux, Trois, Quatre, Cinq, Six (pronounced "cease"), Sept, Huit, Neuf, Dix.
Japanese -- Ichi, Ni, San, Yon/Shi, Go, Roku, Nana/Shichi, Hachi, Kyu, Jyu.

I can count in ASL up to 100, but that's impossible to write, so I won't. We're actually teaching my two year-old brother sign language, so my ASL is limited to signs like "more," "again," "Mom," "Dad," "eat," "play," etc. And since my brother can't always do the sign properly, seeing as he's two, I'm sure my signing isn't always 100% correct. But it's still fun to communicate with him, even though his speech is limited. :)

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Posted : June 14, 2012 8:21 pm
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