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Warrior 4 Jesus
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Flocke?

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Fake + Locke
= Flocke

Thought this might interest some of you peeps:

I've just finished four books in a series called Finding Lost by Nikki Stafford. They're unofficial companion books for the series. This time 'unofficial' isn't synonymous with 'badly written, gossipy trash'. The guides chronicle the first five seasons and a fifth book is planned for Season 6. These books are a lot of fun but dense, they're not for the casual viewer.

Each episode is given a brief synopsis and analysed in great detail.
These are the subheadings for each episode:
Highlight (of the episode)
Did You Notice?
Interesting Facts
Nitpicks (possible problems/annoyances)
Ooops (mistakes)
4 8 15 16 23 42 (where the numbers appear)
It's Just A Flesh Wound (tallies of physical injuries sustained by characters)
Lost In Translation (basic transcript translations of foreign language scenes)
Any Questions? (after the episode)
Ashes To Ashes (who died in the episode)
Music/Bands (featured in the episode - real and fictitious)


Season Three episodes also have this subheading:
Nikki and Paulo - Why? (self-explanatory)


Season Four episodes also have these two subheadings:
Timeline (where the episode takes place in the timeline of the show)
Find815 (clues from the alternate reality game)

In addition to all this, there are summaries and analysis done of the books featured in the series. Also, information on J.J Abrams, Damon Lindelof and Carlton Cuse and actor and actress biographies, as well as closer looks at the philosophers that some characters have been named after. There is a look at the additional web content provided for fans during hiatuses, how the Writers' Strike affected the series for better or worse, a list of Sawyer's nicknames for characters, transcripts for the jungle whispers and so much more.

Currently watching:
Doctor Who - Season 11

Posted : April 20, 2010 8:02 pm
7chronicles
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7chronicles, could you tell me the spoilers for next week?? :D :P

NOTE: Valiant_Lucy wants to know about SPOILERS for the next episode so ignore this post unless you also want SPOILERS, Thanks!

@Valient_Lucy:

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The spoiler involves the deaths of seven characters (the deaths may not all be in one episode, and deaths may include the Flash-sideways) but there is one death next week on the island I think there are more but I can't confirm if it's in the next episode or another one coming up.
And there is an event that is supposed to be a very intense and emotional scene.
Let me know if you want to know some of the characters who die and what the event is. I just wanted to give you a heads up before I told you the exact details.

The Value of myth is that it takes all the things you know and restores to them the rich significance which has been hidden by the veil of familiarity. C.S. Lewis

Posted : April 20, 2010 9:25 pm
Valiant_Lucy
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I PMed you for further details, 7chronicles. :)

I'm watching last night's Lost and posting my thoughts as they come:

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So, I'm still convinced there's more then meets the eye about Flocke. That there's still some of Locke in him...or that they were the same thing all along. I have this idea, that Flocke is like the "bad" part of Locke. In the scene where he's talking with Jack he's totally putting Locke down, saying how he was a "sucker", etcetcetc. It feels like he knows him pretty well...Hm...it's just like, Flocke has this huge grudge against Locke. He really really hates him. Why? He didn't really know him...sure, he saw him around on the island and stuff but unless he could read his mind. He's just some sad dead guy whose body he's using. So why hate him so much?

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Wait, Jack didn't know Claire was his halfsister? I thought he'd discovered that already...

LOL! Sawyer & Hurley are so awesome:

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H: What about Sayid?
S: Sayid'd ain't invited. He's gone over to the dark side.
H: Yeah, but you can always bring people back from the dark side...I mean Anakin.
S: That was Anakin! ...look, just keep your mouth shut, don't say nothing to noone, okay?
;))

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OK, Claire is just getting creepier and creepier.

*sigh* I just love Sawyer, I really do. I would happily watch a million hours of a super cheesy and cliche cop show if Sawyer was in it. ;)) :P

However,

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I don't think Sawyer's a very professional cop is a)he let Kate go in the elevator and b)he's chatting to Kate like she's just some chick at a bar...when um, she's WANTED for murder and assault!!

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Ooooh, Kate is a much better detective then Sawyer! muhaha

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Desmond is being a bit annoying...if I was Claire I'd tell him to get lost! [hahaha Lost! see what I did there? XD]

More Hurley Awesome-ness

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Claire: What's happening?"
Hurley: Just people trying to kill us again.

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Sawyer's got a good head on his shoulders...but I have a feeling his little plan isn't going to go off as easy as he thinks. Flocke isn't THAT dumb!

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NOOOOOOO!!!Jack, DON'T tell Claire! ugh, I know he's going to do it. He's not cured of his "annoying-ness" yet...ok, so he didn't tell her. But she still knows. And she's going to get him next time she sees him...

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Way to go Sun! Give him the silent treatment..that'll teach him.

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I'm sure Sayid didn't kill Desmond...see Sawyer? He can come back from the Dark Side...

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YES!!! Claire is back!! And she's being more normal.

"Imperfection is beauty, madness is genius, and it's better to be absolutely ridiculous than absolutely boring." Marilyn Monroe

Posted : April 21, 2010 8:37 am
Bookwyrm
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Watching The Last Recruit:

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I'm guessing Sun is now remembering her Island life. Freaky coincidence that she and Locke ended up at the hospital at the same time. Also disturbing that Locke was smiling at the end of that episode.

I wonder if Kate really is innocent in this verse? So many other things have been different, why not that?

And the cops are after Sayid now. The writers really have it in for him. ;))

Zoe is either really brave or suicidally stupid. Missile attack was quite the surprise. Widmore's not playing around this time.

Alterna-Desmond freaks me out a little. Halfway expecting him to try to kill Claire.

Ilana!?!

Love this exchange: Claire: Hey, what's going on? Hurley: People trying to kill us again.

Sawyer arresting Sayid. Karma in action. :P

I LOL'ed when I saw how shallow the well UnLocke threw Desmond into was.

Claire laying on the guilt trip is annoying. She's the one who wandered off. It's her own fault she got stranded on the Island by herself. I think Claire, like Sayid, is probably a lost (heehee) cause. She's gone dark side in a big way.

I don't think Sayid killed Desmond. If he had, they'd have shown it.

Wow, Claire didn't go psycho on them. ;))

Sawyer is being a jerk. It's kinda sorta understandable, but he's starting to get annoying with the attitude.

AAWWWWWW!! Sun and Jin are so cute together in both universes. So glad they've finally been reunited. And surprise, surprise, in true Lost fashion, Widmore double-crosses them in the middle of that sweet and adorable moment.

Posted : April 21, 2010 9:36 am
Valiant_Lucy
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More thoughts to go with my post above Booky's

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For once, Jack has a very good point. Why is Flocke in such a hurry to get everyone off the island?

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OH COME ON JACK!! I mean, I thought you had changed...unfortunatly, for the worse. "The island is not done with us yet" "There's a part of you that still feels that, James."

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What, he seriously jumped?!

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Sure, Sawyer was a bit harsh but come on...you're either with them or you aren't.

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Jack's son looks like a mini-Jack. Which is kind of scary. Especially when they're walking side by side...

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Awwww Jin and Sun!!! Yay! :D

"Imperfection is beauty, madness is genius, and it's better to be absolutely ridiculous than absolutely boring." Marilyn Monroe

Posted : April 21, 2010 10:01 am
Bookwyrm
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UnLocke:

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I really don't understand why he needs everyone to get off the Island. I wonder if it's possible he just needs one and the rest are insurance?

Jack:

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Jack will never stop being annoying. It'd be like Sawyer or Miles giving up sarcasm or Hurley no longer calling people dude. ;))

Posted : April 21, 2010 3:21 pm
Valiant_Lucy
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Booky--if Jack stopped being annoying, the world would end. Hmm, maybe THAT'S how the show will finish! That would explain everything ;))

"Imperfection is beauty, madness is genius, and it's better to be absolutely ridiculous than absolutely boring." Marilyn Monroe

Posted : April 21, 2010 3:27 pm
Warrior 4 Jesus
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Episode 6.12 - Everybody Loves Hugo

I thought this episode was good but not great, which is surprising since Hurley is one of my favourite characters, if not my favourite. There were some interesting scenes and revelations but the episode still managed to seem really slowly-paced. The answers to the whispers were good but delivered in a somewhat lazy manner (eg. Hey, I know what the whispers are! Let me go and show the viewer). Blah. It wasn't terrible but it was probably the weakest episode this season, even slightly below What Kate Does. I can't believe I just said that. I could tell something seemed off when everyone on the Island, in Ilana's party, looked fresh and shampooed - this is the first time that's happened. But maybe I'm being unfair, it did have a lot of good stuff - Realistically, the episode had a hard act to follow after Desmond's awesome centric episode. I will say this though:

I'm going to have to re-watch the episode. Then I'll have a more balanced view before writing my recap/thoughts and theories.

Currently watching:
Doctor Who - Season 11

Posted : April 21, 2010 11:17 pm
Rising_Star
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Val, just because I just saw the episode and FYI and because I'm a stickler for correcting quotes, the quote went like this:

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Hurley: "I mean: Anakin."
Sawyer: "Who's Anakin?"

I found that hilarious because Sawyer's usually the one with the book/movie references. ;)) Miles would've gotten it! I wonder where he and Richard and . . . who else went with them? Anyway, I wonder where they are.

Hurley is just awesome, period. ;))

P.S."Brooklyn!"

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My book: The Blind Traveler

Posted : April 22, 2010 12:09 pm
Valiant_Lucy
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Oh, whoops Ryan. ;)) You're right about that quote. And I agree, it's weird because you'd think Sawyer know what that means. I haven't really seen Star Wars or know anything about it and I know who Anakin is. :p

"Imperfection is beauty, madness is genius, and it's better to be absolutely ridiculous than absolutely boring." Marilyn Monroe

Posted : April 22, 2010 12:50 pm
Bookwyrm
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Ben went with Miles and Richard. I've got a feeling we'll see what happens to them in the next episode.

Posted : April 22, 2010 5:34 pm
Claire-ayes
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Losty Losty Lost . . . *does Lost dance*

I watched 'The Last Recruit' a few days ago, I can't really remember what happened, but I do remember enjoying the episode. I reckon that's generally better than remembering it because it was rubbish!

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This is silly - all I can remember from the flash-sideways was Jack & his son. Oh! and Claire - the big family reunion. It's all coming back to me now. Yeah, that was a nice little point to get out of the way. And Smokey was impersonating Christian all those series' ago. Re-watches are going to be so strange once we have all the answers.

On Island. The Jin/Sun reunion was a bit flat, although I couldn't say what else I had expected. 'Looks like someone has got their voice back'. Quote of the decade. Lapidus - you are sooooo cheesy. Jack got a tad exploded. It's all kicking off.

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I honestly don't know which time-line I want to 'win out'. I know many, my friends included, are certain the original time-line will, simply because people have put 6 years of effort into watching it develop. I actually really like the flash-sideways stuff, although I'm pretty sure it will fall flat on it's face. I think what got me on this was Jack's son. If the sideways stuff disappears, he disappears, and that just feels a bit harsh to me. Especially since they made him into quite a sweet kid. Seems a waste. Either way - I see emotional scenes a plenty coming up.

We now have to wait two weeks!! :-ss

Posted : April 23, 2010 8:30 am
Warrior 4 Jesus
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I guess that's one good thing about being an Aussie. Next week we have episode 6.13 - The Last Recruit and then the following week we have episode 6.14 - The Candidate. No break! If all goes well that means for episodes 15 and 16, we'll be only one day behind the US, instead of 8 days, and 3 days behind for the series double-episode finale. Yay!

Currently watching:
Doctor Who - Season 11

Posted : April 23, 2010 4:32 pm
7chronicles
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If all goes well that means for episodes 15 and 16, we'll be only one day behind the US, instead of 8 days, and 3 days behind for the series double-episode finale. Yay!

I’m so happy for you Warrior 4 Jesus! :D That’s awesome, now you can discuss the same episode that we are watching! :p That makes the extra week we have to wait, well worth it! :)

Ok, I might be watching to much LOST ;) :p , the other day me and my sister were playing our LWW PS2 game. Well, right when the level “TO WESTERN WOOD” started I was waiting for my sister to come and play, while I was waiting I was just listening to the music, all of a sudden I heard Richard’s theme music from the Richard episode! You know during the part where you see him riding the horse near the beginning.
You have to let the music play for a while before you hear the part that sounds like Richard’s theme but I thought it was so weird and cool! ;) :D

The Value of myth is that it takes all the things you know and restores to them the rich significance which has been hidden by the veil of familiarity. C.S. Lewis

Posted : April 23, 2010 6:52 pm
stargazer
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Thanks to the wonders of the Internet ;) I've caught up on the recent episodes. Here are some random thoughts on 6.12 Everybody Loves Hugo and 6.13 The Last Recruit, along with some observations on the preceding posts:

I agree that in general the

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island timeline has gotten more convoluted and it seems like everyone's just running around - especially after the death of Dogen and Lennon at the Temple - but also agree that it's like players moving pieces around on a chessboard. Each side is gearing up for the big confrontation that we know is coming.

And as a rule the flash-sideways reality hasn't intrigued me all that much - except in how they continue to mix familiar characters in new and sometimes unexpected ways. An exception to this has been the Desmond story arc - and also Hugo finally getting his beach date with Libby. That was nice to see. And he becomes another person to perceive the island reality after touching her. More and more characters are going this route (Sun seems to be another one, as she recognizes Locke), and I'm curious as to how it'll all play out.

When

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Claire arrived at the boat and Kate tried to calm her down, I half expected Claire to shoot her. While I understand that Kate can be tiresome at times - and we know that more characters are going to die as the series winds down - I still wouldn't want her to die a meaningless death (especially at the hands of Claire-gone-Rousseau - especially given that Kate returned to the island specifically to rescue her and reunite her with Aaron).

The Whispers:

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The explanation was a little disappointing - too mundane perhaps, but I'm not sure exactly what I expected...

And finally

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Jin and Sun are reunited! Once again Lapidus delivers a wry remark ("Looks like someone got their voice back"). True, their reunion could have been more dramatic, but I thought it was kind of nicely understated - and, as someone noted earlier, count on Widmore to interrupt a sentimental moment.

More things coming full circle:

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Pierre Chang doing the introduction to Hugo's award in the alternate 'verse and the destruction of the Black Rock - by Hugo of all people!

When Jack and

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his son were going to the reading of the will, and Jack received a call from David's mother, I immediately wondered if Ilana might be David's mother in the alternate reality. That would be a bit unexpected! But it turns out she's his lawyer, and introduces him to his half-sister for the first time (something the original characters learned back in season 4 in "There's No Place Like Home"). And we still haven't learned the identity of the mother!

Fascinating theory in your spoiler here, Warrior!

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The idea that the MIB escaping the island would cause that reality to be erased also seems to fit well with the "island-as-cork" explanation we got in "Ab Aeterno".
And thanks for mentioning those Finding Lost books. I may have to check them out sometime. :)

But all night, Aslan and the Moon gazed upon each other with joyful and unblinking eyes.

Topic starter Posted : April 24, 2010 2:09 pm
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