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Valiant_Lucy
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So...here we can all discuss the master of movies, Hitchcock :D

Which of his movies are your favorite?
Rear Window, Dial M for Murder, The Birds, and The Lady Vanishes.
I especially like The Lady Vanishes because it's almost a fun movie...it's definetly different then his later films (this was early 30's), and I really had no idea how it was going to end at some points. I also really like Rebecca.

Which ones aren't you so keen on?I really liked the premise of Strangers on a Train, but I didn't feel like it was suspenseful or interesting enough.

Which ones of his have you seen?Rear Window, Dial M for Murder, The Lady Vanishes, North by Northwest, 39 Steps, Rope, The Birds, Vertigo, Strangers on a Train, Rebecca,

If you've seen The Birds, do YOU have any idea what it all is supposed to mean?! :P Everytime I watch this I have this reallyreally strong feeling that there's some really intense and meaningful...meaning...behind the whole thing, but I just can't reach it SO annoying! Which just means I have to keep watching it, trying to solve the mystery ;)) I can't help noticing that

Spoiler
The bird attacks seemed to start with Tippi's character, when she entered the home of what's-his-face [yea, real sharp memory there :P], and then seemed to end once the mother had started liking her...and I also think there's something signifigant toward the schoolteacher who gets killed...and something to do with the color red. Thoughts?

Interestingly, I've been reading some about Hitchcock latly, and he seems like quite the eccentric director. For those of you familiar with 39 Steps, where the hero and heroine find themselves attached to eachother with handcuffs, Hitchcock had the actor/actress on set put them on for practice, then wandered off for a few hours after pretending to "misplace" the key. By the time he returned, they were so annoyed with eachother, and frustrated at their perdiciment, that the scenes came naturally. :P

Post away, but remember to keep all spoilers in spoiler boxes!! :)

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Topic starter Posted : June 9, 2010 7:21 am
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I haven't seen all of Hitchcock's films, but Rear Window is among my favorites.

I've seen North by Northwest the most times - largely because it became 'tradition' for our group to watch it together before our trips to Mount Rushmore. ;)) That movie offers a visual record of what the Memorial's Visitor Center looked like before an extensive renovation was completed in 1998. (Its famous low-flying plane scene pictured above has been saluted elsewhere, including the TV series Lost).

There was also a television show, Alfred Hitchcock Presents, which aired for several years back in the early 60s and is sometimes still aired in syndication. It was a collection of mysteries and thrillers rather reminiscent of The Twilight Zone in style.

It opened with the now-famous silhouette line-drawing of Hitchcock which segued into his on-screen introduction and comments (see a sample episode here). He was also known for making friendly jibes at the show's sponsors when he introduced their commercials.

But all night, Aslan and the Moon gazed upon each other with joyful and unblinking eyes.

Posted : June 9, 2010 8:00 am
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He was the only man who really knew how to make movies back in the day that were absolutely terrifying. I still shiver at Psycho and The Birds. The man was a genius.

I'm auditioning for Dial M for Murder at a local theatre. Wish me luck ;) I know it's another Hitchcock classic as well.


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Posted : June 9, 2010 10:58 am
Kate
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My favorite Hitchcock is To Catch A Thief. Grace Kelly is wonderful. It's one of his tamer films, so we watch it as a family.

The full list of what I've seen: Charade, To Catch a Thief, Rear Window, Vertigo, North by Northwest, Shadow of a Doubt (this one took place in my dad's hometown), and The Man Who Knew Too Much.

Until just now, I was under the impression that Charade was a Hitchcock. I guess not. I'm surprised. I was sure it was. That's one of my favorites.

Posted : June 9, 2010 11:06 am
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Which of his movies are your favorite?

My favorite, hands down, is Vertigo with Jimmy Stewart and Kim Novak. A really haunting film about obsession and how it can drive even a perfectly sane person to the brink. I also love The Birds, Rear Window, North By Northwest, and Psycho.

Which ones aren't you so keen on?

The Man Who Knew Too Much...I just never could get into it. It might be a good film if I could just get past the first hour. Then again it's been about 15 years since I last saw it...perhaps I should give it another go, yes? ;))

If you've seen The Birds, do YOU have any idea what it all is supposed to mean?!

I really don't think there's any intended hidden meaning in the film. Tippi goes to town because she likes Rod Taylor. The birds come and terrorize the town while she's there. Initially I thought the birds attacked because of something about Tippi, but in the end I think it was just coincidence. Sometimes weird things happen for no discernable reason. Embrace that and you'll enjoy the movie more. ;))

Hitchcock was also known for having small cameos in his film. I've only been able to catch him in Vertigo though....

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Posted : June 9, 2010 11:41 am
Kate
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Hitchcock was also known for having small cameos in his film. I've only been able to catch him in Vertigo though....

In To Catch a Thief, Cary Grant is sitting on a bus and the camera swings left slightly to show half of Hitchcock himself sitting by him. ;))

Posted : June 9, 2010 12:07 pm
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I think the only time I've watched these is when they're on Turner Classic Movies, :P so I haven't really seen any more than once or twice. My favorites are probably Vertigo, Rear Window, and Rebecca.
I really don't like The Birds. I've only seen it once but the ending bothers me. I can't stand it when things don't have much closure...

Posted : June 9, 2010 1:25 pm
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Kate, yes, Charade is not a Hitchcock movie but I agree, it's a very good movie.

Hitchcock was a brilliant director but there's one thing about his works that sometimes brings them down a notch - he hated shooting on location and in some of his works it's extremely obvious that he rarely did.

Below, I've listed all of his movies that I've seen so far.

Which of his movies are your favourite?
Psycho
Vertigo
Rear Window
Notorious
North By Northwest

and to a slightly lesser extent - The Birds (the tread-mill running is the only ridiculous part)

Middle-of-the-road?
Rope - quality but the first scene should've been cut out
Dial M for Murder - not a favourite but still very good
Sabotage - some very good scenes, some not very good ones
Secret Agent - same as above
Saboteur - same
Spellbound - same

Which ones aren't you so keen on?
The 39 Steps - it's not bad at all, I just got annoyed at how different it was from the book. I couldn't enjoy it
The Man Who Knew Too Much - not a bad movie per se, but rather forgettable
To Catch a Thief - Grace Kelly (yay!) unfortunately it was run of the mill and dull
Rebecca - great atmosphere and cinematography but very dull
Strangers on a Train - great premise but the execution wasn't so good

If you've seen The Birds, do YOU have any idea what it all is supposed to mean?!

Hmm... not sure the turbulence and mysteriousness of nature? Or maybe it's just symbolic of a descent into madness? That would be kind of cool. Maybe it's a sign of an approaching war (reflective of The Cold War) or the end of the world? I'm not really sure but the ending is rather sinister.

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Posted : June 9, 2010 1:57 pm
lysander
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Hitchcock is one of my two favorite directors of all time (sharing the title with Frank Capra), and looking on IMDb, I've seen 25 of his movies; the only famous picture of his that I've yet to see is Psycho, although there are many of his lesser-known films awaiting me as well. By far my favorite of the movies is Notorious, which is easily one of my three favorite films of all time. It's wonderfully romantic, suspenseful, dramatic, and just a beautiful movie, to boot. To Catch a Thief used to be second in my books, but when I saw it again it just seemed weak in some areas, and I think I like Dial M, Shadow of a Doubt, Rebecca and Vertigo better, although there are more that I used to like and need to watch again.

Of the Hitchcock films I've seen/re-watched recently, the one stinker was Lifeboat. Other Hitch flicks I don't particularly like include The Birds, I Confess, Under Capricorn and The Trouble with Harry.

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Posted : June 9, 2010 6:32 pm
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Which of his movies are your favorite?
Rear Window, Notorious, Dial M for Murder, North by Northwest, and To Catch a Thief.

Which ones aren't you so keen on?
Rope, Strangers on a Train, Mr. & Mrs. Smith, and I've only seen bits and pieces of Psycho and The Birds, but I don't care for what I've seen and I'm not in a rush to see them.

Which ones of his have you seen?
Going in the order I find them on IMDb, Mr. & Mrs. Smith, Notorious, Rope, Strangers on a Train, Dial M for Murder, Rear Window, To Catch a Thief, The Man Who Knew Too Much (1956), Vertigo, North by Northwest, and then I've seen enough to know most of the plot of The Birds and Psycho. I've also found that The Lady Vanishes and The 39 Steps are on Hulu, so I'm hoping to see those soon. :)

I'm fairly new to Hitchcock. Up until last spring, I hadn't really seen anything of his other then Rear Window. For the most part, I'm enjoying what I've seen, but I don't know that I've seen enough to call myself a fan. :p

Hitchcock was also known for having small cameos in his film. I've only been able to catch him in Vertigo though....

Volia! I've spotted him several times on my own, but that link is very nice if you want to be sure and catch Hitchcock's cameo.


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Posted : June 11, 2010 7:52 am
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Hmm, how interesting, this week was Hitchcock movie night at my place. It was my first time seeing Vertigo. It was pretty good, but just when I thought I knew where the movie was going, the story pulled another surprise on me. I'm still trying to put some of the pieces together. "Swimming of the mind" indeed.

My favorites: Notorious and Spellbound. The final scene in Spellbound just makes the whole film worth watching. It's truly amazing.

Not so Keen On: I haven't seen one yet of Hitchcock's that's been a disappointment.

The Meaning of The Birds: I really couldn't tell you. I wasn't really looking for one. However, I do like the references from this film that were used in one of the episodes of Pushing Daisies (another had episode had references to Vertigo as well). Shadowlander, if you're looking for Hitchcock's cameo here you'll find it:

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near the beginning of the film, he is seen coming out of the "bird" shop
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Still trying to get my hands on Psycho. This one is the next on my list to watch.


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Posted : June 11, 2010 5:29 pm
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Pushing Daisies is awesome! Hitchcock definitely had an influence on the series. I'm not sure why you like the final scene of Spellbound though. Hitchcock wanted a more bitter-sweet ending but the studio went with a happy ending. It doesn't suit the story, it's contrived and robs the story before it of much of it's value.

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Posted : June 11, 2010 8:05 pm
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Well, not the very, very end scene Warrior 4 Jesus. I meant more when Constance puts all the pieces together and confronts the other doctor. In the shot where:

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the camera turns to POV and the doctor begins to turn the gun on himself. This is really awesome when seen on a bigger screen and there's a sudden burst of color. Very cool.
. Other than that, the ending is really just an ending.


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Posted : June 12, 2010 5:22 pm
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Ah, very true. I totally agree with you on that part. A great moment. Thanks for clearing up the confusion.

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Posted : June 12, 2010 5:27 pm
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Spellbound has its good points - namely the moment you mentioned, the presence of Ingrid Bergman, and some interesting design work by Salvador Dali - but I've always regarded it as weak in certain areas, and after seeing a documentary on Alfred Hitchcock and David O. Selznick years ago, I felt more secure in my opinion. According to the documentary, it was Selznick's baby all along, and Hitch regretted many aspects of it. Apparently Selznick's own analyst was responsible for much of the script's psychobabble, and also for the ridiculous scene where you can "see" the doors opening to Bergman's heart. 8-| I wish I could find the documentary again, because it was really interesting, and I could make sure that I'm getting this all right factually.

Interestingly, Hitch wanted Joseph Cotten for the Gregory Peck role, and after listening to Cotten's performance in the Lux Radio Theater adaptation, I have to agree.

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Posted : June 13, 2010 6:51 pm
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