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daughter of the King
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So there are some statistics for ya. . . . nobody probably cares :P

Actually, I found them rather interesting. But that's probably because I'm taking a statistics course (which is making my brain go 8-} , although I think I'm kind of starting to get the hang of it....).

Conga-rats to everybody who has accomplished something lately! Does that make up for all the pages that have gone by since I was last in here?

I'm still in the Dojo/Meditation Room trying to get Onyx Stones. The Student and Master of the Belt are avoiding my trap. It's very annoying because I keep catching plenty of Claw and Fangs but what good does it do me without the other one? *sigh*

I am also trying to figure out when I want to attempt the Mousoleum. I spent about a day in there before the Valentine event and did dreadfully. Will ACRONYM help with that?

ahsokasig
Narniaweb sister to Pattertwig's Pal

Posted : February 16, 2011 8:02 am
DiGoRyKiRkE
(@digorykirke)
The Logical Ornithological Mod Moderator Emeritus

Will ACRONYM help with that?

The short answer is yes, but once you get ACRONYM, I wouldn't waste your time farming gold in the mousoleum. Once you get ACRONYM, head over to the catacombs. . . you'll do much better in there.

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Topic starter Posted : February 16, 2011 8:36 am
daughter of the King
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*smacks forehead* The catacombs. That's what I meant. I've already been through the Mouseoleum. Oy vey, I must be more tired than I thought..... ;))

ahsokasig
Narniaweb sister to Pattertwig's Pal

Posted : February 16, 2011 8:46 am
Chloë Máiréad
(@chloe-mairead)
NarniaWeb Junkie

Here is an idea that I had earlier today. The Digby Drillbot, when used against a steel mouse, occasionally gives scrap metal as a loot drop. It's a unique ability that the trap has, as regularly steel mice don't drop scrap metal.

For that reason, I went ahead and purchased the Digby Drillbot today (it costs just over four hundred thousand gold). I did this because A: it should help me farm scrap metal more quickly. B: it's not a bad physical trap as far as physical traps go (and those of you who don't have the Christmas Cracker Trap or the Pneumatic Tube Trap are going to need it I'd wager), and C: It is used both in the Rhinobot as well as the Cackle Lantern Traps, meaning that it's recyclable.

So. . . consider that as an option.

Hmm. If I did that it would completely wipe me of gold...Then I'd be all the way back at square one...I think maybe I'll just be patient and wait for the mice to drop them without buying the Digby Drillbot. For now anyway. I might buy it later.


"No one's ever burned you, nothing's ever left you scarred and even though you want to, just try to never grow up." -Taylor Swift, Never Grow Up

Posted : February 16, 2011 9:08 am
wolfloversk
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The Wandering, Wild & Welcoming Winged Wolf Hospitality Committee

But wolfy can't go to the mountain yet, digs.

Wolf, what areas CAN you access?

Digs is right, I can hunt in the Mountain.

I can hunt in:

Meadow
Town of Gnawnia
Windmill
Harbour
Mountain
Calm Clearing
Great Gnarled Tree
Laboratory
Town of Digby

Currently I've gone against my better judgement and went to the Town of Digby to work on making Limelight cheese, and getting the Mouseleum map, if I lose to much gold though I will likely head to either the Town of Gnawnia, the lab or the Mountain, unless of course you all have a better suggestion. And as I said the Great Gnarled Tree is pretty much out...

"The mountains are calling and I must go, and I will work on while I can, studying incessantly." -John Muir
"Be cunning, and full of tricks, and your people will never be destroyed." -Richard Adams, Watership Down

Posted : February 16, 2011 9:41 am
DiGoRyKiRkE
(@digorykirke)
The Logical Ornithological Mod Moderator Emeritus

Currently I've gone against my better judgement and went to the Town of Digby to work on making Limelight cheese

Yes, this is definitely against your better judgment. The Digby Dirt Dwellers are worth a good deal of money, but limelight cheese is very expensive to craft. The end result of your attempting this too early is going to be either breaking even (goldwise) or even losing gold. I would definitely advise holding off on using limelight cheese in Digby. Use swiss or Brie, and you won't attract any of the digby dirt dwellers. This means that you actually won't do too badly when it comes to gold, and you'll have a good chance of catching the zombie (which drops the mousoleum map piece).

Once you've got that, get it repaired at a cartographer's shop, save up money to buy the sinister portal, and head over to the mousoleum.

*smacks forehead* The catacombs. That's what I meant. I've already been through the Mouseoleum. Oy vey, I must be more tired than I thought.....

If you haven't already, go ahead and purchase the Obelisk of Slumber. It will help you do better in the Catacombs (compared with a shadow trap like the Pumpkin Pummeler or Sinister Portal which will only do marginally at best in the Catacombs). You're going to have to use one to upgrade to ACRONYM any ways, so you might as well purchase it. Once you get ACRONYM, the catacombs will become a gold mine.

Hmm. If I did that it would completely wipe me of gold...Then I'd be all the way back at square one...I think maybe I'll just be patient and wait for the mice to drop them without buying the Digby Drillbot. For now anyway. I might buy it later

Not a bad idea. I had the money, and am glad that I purchased it now rather than later, but it hasn't exactly went as according to plan. I was using swiss with the digby drillbot in the lab, and have only attracted two mice. I went ahead and equipped the bacon base, in hopes that the high attraction bonus that it has will help out some. The two mice that I did catch were both steel mice, but neither of them dropped any scrap metal as loot. . . oh well, c'est la vie.

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Topic starter Posted : February 16, 2011 9:52 am
wolfloversk
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The Wandering, Wild & Welcoming Winged Wolf Hospitality Committee

Yes, this is definitely against your better judgment. The Digby Dirt Dwellers are worth a good deal of money, but limelight cheese is very expensive to craft. The end result of your attempting this too early is going to be either breaking even (goldwise) or even losing gold.

Yeah I noticed that on my last attempt here, right now I'm just getting some radioactive sludge. Thanks for the info about the brie and swiss though, could I still make a profit if I used those here? *Is hoping she'll get all these maps before she levels up* (That's the only problem with leveling up fast :P )

"The mountains are calling and I must go, and I will work on while I can, studying incessantly." -John Muir
"Be cunning, and full of tricks, and your people will never be destroyed." -Richard Adams, Watership Down

Posted : February 16, 2011 10:31 am
DiGoRyKiRkE
(@digorykirke)
The Logical Ornithological Mod Moderator Emeritus

Thanks for the info about the brie and swiss though, could I still make a profit if I used those here? *Is hoping she'll get all these maps before she levels up* (That's the only problem with leveling up fast )

Most definitely! Profit is definitely possible using either swiss or brie. I'd advise using swiss though, because it's cheaper, and will do decently. The Town of Digby and The Laboratory are both pretty good places to make gold (or at least they were prior to the release of charms. . . which has made the Mountain a bit more profitable).

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Topic starter Posted : February 16, 2011 10:48 am
fantasia
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Member Admin

By the way, what's the best place for a Master to farm gold? And please don't say the Great Gnarled Tree... I have no tactical trap, and I've been losing money there... Calm clearing hasn't been much better and I haven't tried to get the Gauntlet map yet... So that kind of limits the choices a little. Personally I think my best luck has either been in the mountain (given the right strategy), the lab, or maybe the Town of Gnawnia. I haven't tried the Town of Digby very much yet, just because getting enough limelight seems like it will be a costly adventure in terms of both time and gold...

Ok so if I can't/won't go to the Mouseleum, where's the next best place to farm gold?

Currently I've gone against my better judgement and went to the Town of Digby to work on making Limelight cheese, and getting the Mouseleum map, if I lose to much gold though I will likely head to either the Town of Gnawnia, the lab or the Mountain, unless of course you all have a better suggestion. And as I said the Great Gnarled Tree is pretty much out...

Thanks for the info about the brie and swiss though, could I still make a profit if I used those here? *Is hoping she'll get all these maps before she levels up*

Tell me what your immediate goal is here... As in, the very next step you want to take? Is it to buy the Venus Mouse Trap? Or the Sinister Portal? Or is it to make as much money as possible as fast as possible? Because depending on what you want to do is gonna get you different advice from me. ;)
My best advice is to hunt in the Town of Digby with Swiss Cheese. You may not make as much gold as you would in the Mountain, but you will make a decent amount, plus have a chance at getting both the Mousoleum Map piece (Zombie) and Training Grounds Map piece (Mole).
(For the record, I think DiGs told you this, do NOT hunt with Limelight yet. You don't have a decent enough trap yet to catch them, nor will you make any money.)
Also, if you can get the NVMRC Forcefield Trap, that will work quite well in the Great Gnarled Tree, even though it's a physical trap.

Well, I just got 3 more pieces of scrap metal!

I need 4 more pieces of scrap metal and about 150,000 more gold and then I can craft the ACRONYM! Though, I think I'll wait until I have more than enough gold before I buy the blueprints, so I'm not completely wiped of gold...

Woohoo!!!!! Almost there!

I am also trying to figure out when I want to attempt the Mousoleum Catacombs. I spent about a day in there before the Valentine event and did dreadfully. Will ACRONYM help with that?

You'll need to tough it out for a little while with the Obelisk of Slumber. I don't know how long you were there before the VDay event, but it may not have been long enough to get a good feel for the place. And yes, in reply to both you and Chloe, once you get the ACRONYM trap, the gold will roll in. Even now, with every area unlocked, the Catacombs is still my go-to place for gold if I need to make money fast. :)

I went ahead and purchased the Digby Drillbot today (it costs just over four hundred thousand gold). I did this because ... It is used...in the Rhinobot

Because you favor power in your game play style, I definitely encourage you to get the Rhinobot. :) That paired with the Molten Shrapnel Base is the best physical trap setup available to you and will work very well in the Seasonal Garden, plus there are no item drops so luck doesn't mean much there. It gives you something else to work for if you run out of stuff to do before reaching Lord. ;)

Two more days til the next feedback Friday. I'm hoping they spill the beans on the when the new Baron release will be. Or if there will be new traps/bases/etc so I know if I need to really push on saving gold or not. Right now i'm hanging out in the Seasonal Garden with the occasional Zugzwang's Tower run so I keep leveling and making a fairly decent amount of gold. But if I'm going to need a lot of gold, I really ought to move back to the Catacombs.

Posted : February 16, 2011 2:15 pm
wolfloversk
(@wolfloversk)
The Wandering, Wild & Welcoming Winged Wolf Hospitality Committee

fantasia_kitty, My current goal is to get enough gold to buy the Venus Mouse trap. (What! there's another map here?! Oi...) And to get all the maps I need to before I level up (*gulp*). After I get the Venus Mouse Trap, I'm gonna work on getting a Shadow trap... but I have to get to that stage first...

Edit:

Ok exactly what should I have accomplished before I level up again? (I'm currently a master) Thanks again...

"The mountains are calling and I must go, and I will work on while I can, studying incessantly." -John Muir
"Be cunning, and full of tricks, and your people will never be destroyed." -Richard Adams, Watership Down

Posted : February 16, 2011 2:54 pm
fantasia
(@fantasia)
Member Admin

Ok, the top places you will most likely make money and the pros and cons of each....

Mountain
Pros: Probably the place you will make the most money because Simple Orbs drop fairly often here and can be sold.
Cons: Won't help you progress in the game in any way.

Laboratory
Pros:
Probably the second highest amount of gold will be made here.
You can start stockpiling Radioactive Blue Potions (it's impossible to get too many).
The Burglar Mouse will drop Flawless Orbs here.
Cons: Can't really think of any besides you may not make quite as much gold as the Mountain.

Town of Digby
Pros:
You'll still make a steady amount of gold here.
Two maps drop here (One of which is required to progress in the game).
Cons: Probably one of the most boring places in the world to hunt in with regular cheese.
Probably the least amount of gold will be made here.

Ok exactly what should I have accomplished before I level up again?

~ Get the Lagoon Map drop from the Fairy Mouse at the Great Gnarled Tree
~ Get the Mousoleum Map drop from the Zombie Mouse in the Town of Digby
~ Get the Training Grounds Map drop from either the Mole Mouse in the Town of Digby or the Lycan Mouse in the Mousoleum
~ Get a shadow trap for sure (required for the Mousoleum).
~ OPTIONAL: Get a tactical trap (required for the Training Grounds).
~ OPTIONAL: Upgrade your physical trap.

Posted : February 16, 2011 5:09 pm
DiGoRyKiRkE
(@digorykirke)
The Logical Ornithological Mod Moderator Emeritus

I actually did pretty well gathering scrap metal overnight, and am now up to 157 pieces (43 more to go!!!). I cannot wait to get my molten shrapnel base! 'Twill be quite exciting!!!!!

I'll probably make enough gold in the process of farming scrap metal to also craft the rhinobot! Squee!!!!! To do so, I'm going to have to farm some stale SB+ as well. My current plan to do so, is to equip runic cheese with my stalest cheese setup, and head to furoma. Nothing will be attracted to the cheese, and when it goes stale, I get stale SB+. Does that sound like a good plan?

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Topic starter Posted : February 17, 2011 3:24 am
fantasia
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Member Admin

I already answered your question elsewhere DiGs, but for the sake of everyone else wanting to know the answer to your question, yes, that is a very good plan. :)

You also asked me DiGs how the Cackle Lantern Trap would compare to the Clockapult of time in the Fall season of the Seasonal Garden. Since you like numbers and statistics, I dug some up for you....

Magma Base Clock Gorgon Cackle
Whirleygig 99.99% 99.99% 99.99%
Pumpkin Head 99.99% 98.80% 99.99%
Scarecrow 99.99% 95.71% 99.99%
Harvest Harrier 52.96% 46.59% 54.45%
Fall Familiar 51.28% 45.04% 52.68%
Harvester 33.72% 29.08% 34.34%

Spellbook Base
Whirleygig 99.99% 94.88% 99.99%
Pumpkin Head 99.02% 92.44% 99.99%
Scarecrow 96.47% 89.80% 99.99%
Harvest Harrier 51.64% 45.77% 52.68%
Fall Familiar 50.08% 44.31% 51.05%
Harvester 33.43% 29.06% 33.79%

Molten Base
Whirleygig 99.99% 96.77% 99.99%
Pumpkin Head 99.99% 94.10% 99.99%
Scarecrow 98.43% 91.22% 99.99%
Harvest Harrier 51.10% 44.93% 52.32%
Fall Familiar 49.50% 43.45% 50.64%
Harvester 32.68% 28.17% 33.15%

Some disclaimers on these numbers... they're figured with the world's most complicated math formula rather than gathering data, so I've no idea how accurate they are, but in my personal hunting experience, they seem pretty darn close. Second thing, these are also all figured with the Golden Shield.

ETA: Naturally as soon as I post, it took out all of the spacing in the tables. :P Hopefully you can still read it ok.

Posted : February 17, 2011 4:58 am
wolfloversk
(@wolfloversk)
The Wandering, Wild & Welcoming Winged Wolf Hospitality Committee

~ Get the Lagoon Map drop from the Fairy Mouse at the Great Gnarled Tree
~ Get the Mousoleum Map drop from the Zombie Mouse in the Town of Digby
~ Get the Training Grounds Map drop from either the Mole Mouse in the Town of Digby or the Lycan Mouse in the Mousoleum
~ Get a shadow trap for sure (required for the Mousoleum).
~ OPTIONAL: Get a tactical trap (required for the Training Grounds).
~ OPTIONAL: Upgrade your physical trap.

If that's the case, would you recommend me getting a shadow trap before getting the tactical?

"The mountains are calling and I must go, and I will work on while I can, studying incessantly." -John Muir
"Be cunning, and full of tricks, and your people will never be destroyed." -Richard Adams, Watership Down

Posted : February 17, 2011 6:35 am
DiGoRyKiRkE
(@digorykirke)
The Logical Ornithological Mod Moderator Emeritus

If that's the case, would you recommend me getting a shadow trap before getting the tactical?

Again, it's up to what your goals are at present. Personally, I think it's a good idea to get a shadow trap before you get the Venus Mouse Trap. This is because once you have a shadow trap, you'll be able to make gold much more quickly (Probably 50K per day in the Mousoleum, if not a little better than that). Once you get that steady income, you'll be able to make purchases faster.

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Topic starter Posted : February 17, 2011 6:53 am
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