Silver, I read the first Dragons in Our Midst series several years ago and enjoyed it quite a bit, but was underwhelmed by the companion series whose-title-I-don't-really-remember and so I didn't read any further. But yes, the first books are good. Also, I've heard Leviathan ends on a cliff-hanger and so I don't want to read it until the cliff-hanger is resolved. Is this true?
The companion series is called Oracles of Fire, and yes it does get pretty complicated in places. But the conclusion is worth it if you're able to follow what's going on.
As for Leviathan, it does have a bit of a cliffhanger, but that's expected since it's the first of a trilogy. But it's not a really bad cliffhanger, more of a "the journey will continue" kind of cliffhanger.
Rick Riordan seems like he very much wants me to read and like him, but I'm afraid he's just a few years too late. I would have snapped his books up as a teen; I love mythology. Now there's just way too much other stuff to read.
You should give them a try! My science teacher loves, them.
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Currently reading The Secret Garden... I am interested with its title.
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Silver, the problem wasn't that Oracles was complicated (I like complicated; done right, it makes the story feel more fleshed out) but the actual quality of the writing had changed. There were some really awkward similes that threw me out of the story and there didn't seem to be a character I could care about. *shrug* Thanks for the info about Leviathan, I appreciate knowing what I'm getting into.
How are you liking QoA this time around, stwin?
*is currently devouring the first five books of Garth Nix's Keys to the Kingdom series* Very nicely paced, and a well thought-out world. So far, I approve. So far, my biggest caveat would be that our worldviews don't align, but I was rather expecting that.
We have hands that fashion and heads that know,
But our hearts we lost - how long ago! -- G. K. Chesterton
Glenstorm: I'm really interested to hear how you like the Riddlemaster of Hed. Do keep us updated.
W4J: I'm of the opinion that Gaiman is a genius. I'm not usually a graphic novel person, but I've read a few. The cover art is incredible, so it's too bad the actual art isn't great. The premise sounds fascinating though. Cute name for the the king of dreamland.
ww: It's lovely to see you in here! It's nice to know that I'm not the only one who felt a little overwhelmed by Riddlemaster.
mar_girl: Precisely. It wasn't called fantasy, it was the beginning and end of storytelling. It wasn't worth telling if it wasn't magical/mythical. I have no idea who pioneered our modern idea of "fantasy." Anderson and the Grimms might be a good guess though.
I didn't mind not knowing Stephen's history. It never bothered me. He was kind of a peripheral character.
It just doesn't seem fair to the heroine. Her life isn't fair to her, and the ending of the book isn't really fair to her either. She's just "servile, underappreciated, put-upon, a second choice." (quote from my last post)
Uh... what? Fanny gets everything her heart could have desired. The bad people get their just desserts, the good people (of which there are few) are rewarded. I don't understand why you think it's second rate.
I found the "Pride and Prejudice a la Twilight" on Amazon. Here's the synopsis:
With all the forces of the world conspiring to keep Mr. Darcy and Elizabeth Bennet apart, how will fate manage to bring them together? It certainly won't be easy if they're fighting it every step of the way. But theirs is a love that was meant to be, despite the obstacles along the way
There's also a Romeo and Juliet and Wuthering Heights version.
I've heard that Villette is kind of like Jane Eyre (which I loved); has anyone here read it?
Yes. Wisewoman and I disagree on this one. Do NOT go into Villette expecting a Jane Eyre. It's dull, plodding, long, and I wish I had the time back that I spent reading it. The only interesting thing about it is that it's somewhat autobiographical. Lucy Snowe (I always want to call her Lucy Swann) is a doormat who lives vicariously through some socially adept, wealthy friends who treat her as though they couldn't care if she lived or died. *takes a deep breath* I'll stop ranting now, but I was very disappointed by this book. If you want to read it, I would recommend giving yourself the freedom to quit. I didn't and even though I knew early on that I didn't like it, I kept going, hoping it would improve. Instead, I spent months on a book I hated.
. Austen is quite honest about the fact that
SpoilerFanny would have married Crawford if Edmund had married Mary.
She is? I don't remember getting that implication at all. I suppose I could probably assume that, Fanny isn't the "Jane Austen type" to
My library had a sale the other day so I picked up copies of Hamlet and The Tempest and Jean Rhys' Wide Sargasso Sea. I'm taking a Shakespeare class this quarter and even though textbooks haven't been announced, I thought there was a good chance those would be on our list. I'm really excited to read WSS.
Texbooks for my other classes have been announced though and I am very excited about them. ( I LOVE getting textbook lists. Books I'm forced to buy? OK!)
I'll be reading Persuasion for one class, which I'm really looking forward to. I didn't like it much the first time and I am excited to read Austen in an academic setting.
For my Russian Realism class I'm reading:
Childhood, Boyhood, and Youth by Tolstoy
Death of Ivan Ilyich by Tolstoy
Confession by Tolstoy
Notes from the Underground by Dostoevsky
Grand Inquisitor by Dostoevsky
Stories by Chekhov
My library had a sale the other day so I picked up copies of Hamlet and The Tempest.
You know, for some reason I dislike Hamlet. My Shakespeare teacher in college said that it was her favourite tragedy, and likely her favourite Shakespearean work period, but I just couldn't stomach it. There were times when I just wanted to punch Hamlet in the face and shout out "DO SOMETHING ALREADY!" At any rate, Hamlet seemed to be an acquired taste. I think you'll have more luck with The Tempest (which is intriguing because A: it's the last play Shakespeare wrote and B: it can be read in two VERY different ways)
When it comes to Shakespearean tragedies, I'd reccommend King Lear or Titus Andronicus over Hamlet any day of the week. Either of them have much better characters I think
Before the summer ends I really want to read Inkdeath by Cornelia Funke. I fell in love with Inkheart and was impressed with the direction the story of Inkspell went (although I think that Funke used a great many pages to tell a very simple tale), so I'm intrigued to see how she's going to end the series.
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Well, the last time I was here I promised more thoughts on A Conspiracy of Kings, so here I come with a couple of links: a review (safe to read for anyone who's read the earlier books) and some more spoilery thoughts.
As always, reviews of other reads, both recent and not-so-recent, can be found here.
Since finishing ACoK (and, thus, since I've last posted), I've read three books: Briar Rose by Jane Yolen, The Brontes Went to Woolworths by Rachel Ferguson, and The Princess and the Goblin by George MacDonald. I'd had my eye on Briar Rose for a long time, and had even started it before, but I'm afraid to say that it was a huge disappointment. It has a great concept (Sleeping Beauty + WWII = win) and one very strong character in the grandmother, but the rest is mushy and distasteful. The Ferguson I won from the LT Early Reviewers program. It's from the same era as and somewhat in the style of Cold Comfort Farm, but despite some hilarious and charming passages ("I’m through with Holmes now, but I often think that he and I could have hit off wonderfully well in Baker Street, as I am not at all demanding, and rather love old clothes and arm-chairs, and silence, and smoking, and dispassionate flights of pure reason"), it left me cold. The Princess and the Goblin was not a total hit either, although as it was a childhood favorite of mine I still enjoyed it quite a bit.
I'm now reading the sequel, The Princess and Curdie, and I've found a few quotes from it that I absolutely love:
A mountain is a strange and awful thing. In old times, without knowing so much of their strangeness and awfulness as we do, people were yet more afraid of mountains. But then somehow they had not come to see how beautiful they are as well as awful, and they hated them - and what people hate they must fear. Now that we have learned to look at them with admiration, perhaps we do not always feel quite awe enough of them. To me they are beautiful terrors.
There is this difference between the growth of some humans beings and that of others: in the one case it is a continuous dying, in the other a continuous resurrection. One of the latter sort comes at length to know whether a thing is true the moment it comes before him; one of the former class grows more and more afraid of being taken in, so afraid that he takes himself in altogether, and comes at length to believe in nothing but his dinner: to be sure of a thing with him is to have it between his teeth.
This fall I'm going for a bunch of dark, Gothic-toned volumes, including Dracula, The Woman in White, My Cousin Rachel, etc. It just seemed like the right thing to do for the season, and moreover all the books I've queued up are ones I've wanted to read for a long time. But I'm not starting quite yet ... after I finish The Princess and the Goblin, I really need to read Wildwood Dancing since I promised to loan it to a friend once I'm done, and AustenProse's Heyer month (thanks for the link, ww!) is making me want to read Friday's Child. Who knows? I may slip The Maltese Falcon and Death in the Family in there too.
I may play catch-up later, but that's all for now.
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I read Wildwood Dancing and even though it's a good read, I wouldn't exactly call it memorable.
I'm currently rereading Amy Tan's The Joy Luck Club. Some of the mother's reactions to their daughters sound like my mother and when I told her that she was like "noo i don't act like that" and i'm like "Yes you do mom".
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Silver, the problem wasn't that Oracles was complicated (I like complicated; done right, it makes the story feel more fleshed out) but the actual quality of the writing had changed. There were some really awkward similes that threw me out of the story and there didn't seem to be a character I could care about. *shrug* Thanks for the info about Leviathan, I appreciate knowing what I'm getting into.
Ohhh, I see. And agreed, I did connect to the characters in the first series more, and I like that series better overall.
One more thing about Leviathan - it's got some really neat artwork every couple of pages. I really enjoyed looking at it all.
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Yes, Leviathan was an enjoyable novel. I loved the steam-punk setting and the artwork. The characters were also interesting and well-written.
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The artwork for Leviathan was very nice. I wish publishers would embrace the idea that artwork is not just for little kids' books.
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I'm also continuing Stephen King's The Stand. 700+ pages in and still counting.
I'm also re-reading this at the moment, I'm working on it in between other books. I'm 900 pages in now, it's been years since I last read it and it turns out I forgot a ton of stuff. My battered, very well loved copy is just about holding up, but I've taken to reading it with a roll of sellotape next to me as pages keep falling out -
Such is the consequence of having such a long book in paperback, I suspect
There is a crack in everything, that's how the light gets in.
Rereading Narnia (At LWW right now. I read them in chronological order). Also trying to finish The Return of the King, and about to start rereading The Last Olympian.
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Very true Shantih. That's the copy I first read from my local library. For this re-read I bought myself a copy - it has the silhouette of a sparrow? on the front. I'm not sure how the cover artist confused a sparrow? with a raven/crow. Anyway, The Stand is one of my favourites. I'm also re-reading it in-between books but only graphic novels (Y: The Last Man and The Sandman) because I'd confuse myself if I read more than one novel at a time.
Do you have any idea why the first edition of The Stand has a bird-headed jester character and a man dressed in white who looks not unlike Luke Skywalker, complete with a sword? It just seems a bit random.
Next I'll be reading some Ted Dekker (Burn, The Bride Collector), then maybe some Dean Koontz (Brother Odd) and more Stephen King (I'll probably begin with Salem's Lot).
Currently watching:
Doctor Who - Season 11
So glad to be half way the book of The Secret Garden! I barely have time to read it so, yeeey! . Need to read too Greek Mythology.....
"Two sides of the same coin"
It's definitely rather strange, W4J (well, the basic 'light vs dark in the desert' I get, but the bird head and whatnot escapes me), but I've always liked that cover a lot, I'd love to have a copy of it one day, even if it's not an actual first edition. I dread to think how much a first edition of The Stand goes for now, I've got first editions of some of King's newer work and even they're worth a few hundred pounds each
Actually, now I think of it...(very slight Dark Tower spoiler)
There is a crack in everything, that's how the light gets in.