ABC news reporting....
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/osama-bin ... d=13505703
"Even in literature and art, no man who bothers about originality will ever be original: whereas if you simply try to tell the truth you will, nine times out of ten, become original without ever having noticed."- CS Lewis
Yes i heard that, someone will take his place one day, it will never end.
I'm sure you're right. And it's not even THAT optimistic. His place has already been taken.
His role has been pretty meaningless since the Afghanistan war began, but as a symbol of evil he obviously still meant a lot.
"Even in literature and art, no man who bothers about originality will ever be original: whereas if you simply try to tell the truth you will, nine times out of ten, become original without ever having noticed."- CS Lewis
I am glad he was finally caught.
My sisters response when i found out- who is he? a garbage man?
she is 10 by the way.
Lol, *Was surprised to see this topic* I'm surprised it doesn't fall under the "No politics" rule. But I'm glad we're allowed to talk about it.
It really surprised me that they got him. It seemed like after he went into hiding, we would never hear about him again. Like a friend of mine said, I'm glad the 9/11 victims' families have some closure now.
~Riella
Guys, we can leave this open as long as this thread stays out of politics. If this becomes a thread to degrade any troops that are in Afghanistan, the people involved in the war at any point or to promote or criticize America and it's leadership, it will be shut down.
Please remember the respect rule.
Thank you,
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Personally, I am ashamed to be an American this morning! The way that we as a country have rejoiced over somebody's death is absolutely abhorrent to me. Osama Bin Laden may have been a murderer, but to assume that He was worse than us, is to assume that our sins are not as bad as his sins.
He was a human being too. God loved him too, and now he is burning in hell. I'm sorry, but I miss the need to rejoice.
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I was pretty shocked when my sister told me this morning...still processing.
I don't think it is something to celebrate, necessarily, but I also don't think there is anything wrong with being thankful that a mass-murderer won't be harming anyone again.
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DiGoRyKiRkE,
I already saw that debate on another board. I understand both sides. He did evil, and caused many deaths, justice was done. But would I rejoice? No, I'm not rejoicing but it's good that phase is finally over.
One person didn't even feel it right to feel bad for him. She said feeling bad for him is like feeling bad for Hitler. I understand the view. But I agree with you, I don't think it's a time for rejoicing, he himself was human too. But the families who lost people on that day finally have some form of closure.
In Dante's "Inferno," while touring through hell with Virgil, Dante gradually learns not to feel sorry for the people down there as he learns that they are getting the punishment that is proportionate to their sins.
I don't think we have to feel bad about feeling good that Bin Laden is dead. I don't think we have to overqualify why his death is a relief and joy to people that he terrorized. Of course he was made in Christ's image. But you can reject Christ, too. Bin Laden was ultimately responsible for his own soul, as we are for ours.
"Even in literature and art, no man who bothers about originality will ever be original: whereas if you simply try to tell the truth you will, nine times out of ten, become original without ever having noticed."- CS Lewis
Proportionary (is that even a word ) punishment may be great in a book, but isn't in the Bible (to my knowledge. . . which could be very wrong).
Celebrating the death of an unsaved person cannot (in my opinion) be separated from the fact that you are celebrating their entrance into a Christless eternity in Hell. The two are inextricably linked to each other.
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Celebrating the death of an unsaved person cannot (in my opinion) be separated from the fact that you are celebrating their entrance into a Christless eternity in Hell. The two are inextricably linked to each other.
What I'm celebrating is his exit from the world, leaving us with a little more peace. That's not a sin any more than rejoicing that the WW is dead.
"Even in literature and art, no man who bothers about originality will ever be original: whereas if you simply try to tell the truth you will, nine times out of ten, become original without ever having noticed."- CS Lewis
What I'm celebrating is his exit from the world, leaving us with a little more peace. That's not a sin any more than rejoicing that the WW is dead.
Celebrating his exit from this world, ultimately leads to his entrance elsewhere. The two go hand in hand as DK said. And I really don't think a fictional character, WW, should be compared to a real person.
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Still, I admit, it's rather difficult to know where to stand. I personally am not rejoicing. But this man was the US's enemy, and caused 9/11. Even in biblical times, did they not kill their enemies and then rejoice? (David vs Goliath for example). But that's for a different topic. With that, all I try to say is- I guess there is a place for rejoicing- but to a degree only. Because it's true, he chose to live the path he chose and therefore reaped the consequences.
@ Digory Kirk
You can be glad he's out of the world but not be happy that he's in hell at the same time. I'm not gleefully thinking of him burning in hell. But I am very thankful that he cannot hurt any more innocent people and/or put our soldiers at risk. (Even though sadly there are plenty of others that can.)
He's been the mastermind behind killing thousands of people, including what has been the largest terrorist attack on my own country. He has been a symbol of so much that is bad.
Are we sinners as well? Yes. I don't think anyone on here is denying that. But as far as I know no one on here is a terrorist leader and killing their fellow countrymen. Maybe the rejoicing is out of hand (I can't say personally). But the world is better with him "out of commission," so to speak.
EDIT: @ narnian1
That is a good point. The Israelites rejoiced after the Egyptians were destroyed at the Red Sea. They weren't glad they were in hell, but they rejoiced at God's deliverance.
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I must admit, I felt relief when I heard the news.
I am not rejoicing that four men and a woman are dead. I am not rejoicing at the thought of their bloodied deaths. But I am pleased that they are no longer at large.
For me, it isn't about "omp, Bin Laden is dead!", it's about safety. These people made themselves a threat to the greater population of the planet by killing thousands. I am relieved that thousands of people's lives may be saved because of this. It is for the future pain that has been averted, that I rejoice. Those who create mass threats must be removed for the greater good.
That is what this means to me.