I voted that they are both equally bad, I've had enough of the White Witch, and I think the LotGK shouldn't appear either, her place is in the SC. There shouldn't be any witches in this one at all. The book doesn't need a witch, it does fine without it, why stick it into the movie?!

I will agree about not naming the Lady of the Green Kirtle. Calling Lilliandil "Ramandu's Daughter" in the books really seemed like a cop out to me. I mean, Caspians wife would have a name and I frankly saw Lewis not giving her one as laziness rather then mysteriousness.

But the actual title "The Lady of the Green Kirtle" is fitting because, unlike Lilliandil, we do not know the full nature of her. We don't know where she came from. We don't know the full extent of her plans. And she's alaways hidden in the background of the story up until the end. Whereas we knew Lilliandil was the daughter of a star who lived about 30-50 years with Caspian as his wife. She may have been mysterious at first, but not by the time she was killed in the Silver Chair.

The one very big advantage of giving the Lady of the Green Kirtle a name, would be that it would help reinforce the fact that she is not the White Witch.... providing of course that the name they give her is not "Jadis".

I wonder if they will have Ramandu's daughter at the end of Silver Chair.

There is no witch in VoDT!

The WW and LOTK are independent, individual bad guys!

There is no witch union out to take over Narnia!

Nobody except Lord Rhoop even landed on the dark island, so nobody will have nightmares of any sort come true!

Aaaaagh! Why can't we have a nice adventure to find the seven lost lords, release the three sleepers and allow Reepicheep to fulfil his destiny???

Ok, yeah, I feel a little better now.

Ooo, a witches union! Bad in Narnia, but it gives me original fiction ideas.

In the book people started having their nightmares when they were in the darkness surrounding the dark island. I think what is different is that the evil mist seems to move around and cause problems elsewhere.

The one very big advantage of giving the Lady of the Green Kirtle a name, would be that it would help reinforce the fact that she is not the White Witch.... providing of course that the name they give her is not "Jadis".

That's a good point. I never said I wanted them to give LotGK a name, I just said that I was pretty sure they would. After all, if they gave Ramandu's daughter a name, when she was a somewhat minor character in the books, then I can't see how they wouldn't give a villain as major as LotGK a name. If they did give her a name, what would you like her to have? I can't think of any good names.

I wonder if they will have Ramandu's daughter at the end of Silver Chair.

They are bound to have Ramandu's daughter in Silver Chair. She dies at a picnic, remember? Avenging her death was what got Rilian ensnared into bondage to LOTGK. And that would be a nice way for Caspian to die, as he does in the end of the book, being greeted by his lovely Queen that he grieved for so much.

I'm a bit apprehensive about what sort of name should be given LOTGK. Surely not Prunaprismia, or Hownowbrowncow? It would have to be a 'green' sort of name, anyway, something like Viridia or Esmeralda. And I voted that I didn't care which witch from the Witches union should appear in VDT. We haven't met LOTGK yet, so terrifying nightmares of her on Dark Island won't be as convincingly terrifying.

I know she would be there at the beginning or in the flashback when they show her being kidnapped, but i was talking about her being there at the end with Caspian

I don't know how i feel about that. I sort of like the idea in some ways and in other ways i don't.

PS. I do think that they should try and

i just say LotGK would be better for this film than WW for all the reasons that josh said above AND the fact that the serpent reference would fit in very well. However, i am not overly stressed about WW's supposed inclusion in VDTfilm, just because all that we saw in the teaser was her in nightmare form at Dark "Green Fog" Island. This would bring up some issues in Edmund's character arc, but on the whole would be much better than "whitewitcherpent".

If the filmmakers plan on having thee White Witch and the Lady of the Green Kirtle be the same person, then we shouldn't be happy about them choosing the White Witch for this film..... (Which I don't think anyone is.)

On the one hand, it is easy to see how the LGK could be set up in this film, but on the other, Jadis returning as a dream doesn't seem all that bad.

Why couldn't it be a bit of both? Yes, I can now see how this movie could set up for LOTGK, and for SC. But there is no reason why it shouldn't be the White Witch summoned by Edmund's nightmare. Sort of however terrible the White Witch was, there is worse in store.

The one very big advantage of giving the Lady of the Green Kirtle a name, would be that it would help reinforce the fact that she is not the White Witch.... providing of course that the name they give her is not "Jadis".

You are quite right, you know. LOTGK is so clunky to type and think about. I think I will call her Viridiana anyway, so that I know whom I'm talking about.

I would rather the Dark Island be a power in itself like in the book rather than have it controlled by the LGK, if she had the power to make such a thing why would she do it thousands of mile from land in the middle of the ocean rather than somewhere she can make use of it. It makes no real sense, if you think about it.

if she had the power to make such a thing why would she do it thousands of mile from land in the middle of the ocean rather than somewhere she can make use of it. It makes no real sense, if you think about it.

Well, if like i said, if the Dark Island came into existence as a result of the Seven Lords disturbing the Stone Knife (either on the Lone Islands as in the leaked script, or on Ramandu's Island as in the book) then the Stone Knife would accordingly be in the possession of Lord Rhoop, who in the new island order for the movie is now the last lord in the sequence, and of course is the Lord whom they find at the centre of the Dark Island.

That said, i'm not as convinced that they've gone with the whole Stone Knife plot element as they did in the leaked script, as it didn't come up at all in the Movie Story Book, and for my theory to be true it would have to be a pretty significant plot point to omit from that book.