well, if they don't do Burnt Island or Terabinthia, then that would be alright.....

I hope they didn't cut out anything important!

I don't see how they could avoid not taking up too much of our time with the MLG. From everything we've heard, it sounds as if they've constructed a ridiculous sub-plot consisting of the Narnians running around trying to track down poor little MLG's missing mommy. Every scene taken up by that non-canon subplot is screen time stolen from the actual canon material. If they've actually cut one of the important islands like the Dark Island and replaced it with the MLG, I'm going to be irate. It's one thing to cut the tiny Burnt Island part of the story or put Deathwater on one of the other islands, but to completely eliminate one of the other islands and its story is unacceptable.

bookwyrm: I agree with you! this whole thing with the MLG might be the reason for them to consolidate two of the islands together! yikes!
I hope MLG doesn't take up too much of the movie.....or take over the movie for that matter!

you don't think they will put a weird cobanation of deathwater island/dragon island or something.....do you?

Liberty-- Actually, I think I could see a weird combination of deathwater and dragon islands. Lord I-forget-his-name [EDIT: It's Lord Restimar-- thanks Lady Galadriel for refreshing my memory!!]could have been frightened by a dragon and therefore he jumped into the water to swim away from the dragon...

Ok, it wouldn't exactly work the way I described it, but I can see it as a possibility.

Tawariell, do you mean Lord Restimar?

Liberty Hoffman, going by what some other NarniaWebbers have said about that particular island combination, I think I could see Deathwater and Dragon Island being put together. Actually, it's the combination idea that I like the best. It'd be better and take less finangling then, say, Deathwater and Dark Island. The stories are quite similar; at least, they're both about gold and greed.

I agree that combining dragon island and deathwater are the most likely combinations. It could be handled poorly or it could be handled well. I understand the sentiments of the islands each having their own distinct feel to them, and I appreciate that. I confess that combining the two might just be a bit awkward, and I don't want one merged into the other. Both are classic moments.

And I think it is important to remember that they said they "consolidated" the islands and didn't get rid of any single one.

Another important note is that any of the lords can be moved to Aslan's table on Ramandu's island. It would be the easiest thing in the world. If they don't want Restimar on death-water, then they can move him to the table scene.

Lady Galadreil: now that I read what you (and others) have siad about the deathwater/dragon island cobanation, I think it sounds better than when I first thought of it! that actually WOULD be a good cobanation.....

I'm not really for a Deathwater/Dragon Island combo, mainly because there are so many things going on in both places that combining them...well, we either get a lot chopped off, or we get waaaay too many plotlines converging at once. Neither choice is satisfactory to me.

There is a tiny piece inside of me that says "Yes! It could work!" mainly because of what so many others have pointed out, the common thread of "gold and greed". I'm still not that enthusiastic about it, even though possible combinations of other islands sound even less appealing.

Let's see...I think we can pretty much rule out Dark Island being combined with anything else, as it would be hard to pull off. (Anyone agree?) Burnt Island is the easiest to combine (or leave out ), as all they do is find Reep's Coracle there. That means we have the Lone Islands, Dragon Island, Deathwater, the Island of the Duffers, and Ramandu's Island that can still be played around with. I'm rather inclined to believe that one of these will be combined with either Ramandu's Island or the Lone Islands, as the two are fairly big places and provide more opportunities for different adventures. Hopefully the Island of the Duffers would be left its own entity, as again, there's a lot going on.

Hmm. Looking at it again, I just don't see how any of the above would work! I better just shut up. My puzzler is all puzzled out.

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I really don't think deathwater and dragon island mesh that well. The book clearly states that they didn't stay long on the island. Caspian, after Aslan had appeared and then disappeared, said he felt they should leave the island at once and never return. No one could really remember what went on on the island either. Drinian states that their majesties "looked bewitched" when they returned to the ship.
With Dragon Island, however, they stayed a good 2-3 weeks, 1st repairing the ship and then searching for Eustace, finding Eustace the Dragon, and then waiting for the transformation. The book also mentions it being a dull island, mostly forests and grazing animals, while Deathwater was lush and green, almost tropical.

The most obvious Island for them to cut out is Burnt Island because nothing really important happens there except they find Reep's coracle. It wasn't a very interesting Island either, unless you are a fan of seeing charcoal and ruin everywhere. As for finding the little boat, that could easily be done on any of the other Islands.

As far as consolidating I think you all covered pretty much everything

On ORDER though...seeing as Hollywood has a thing with adding romance in movies, I would not be surprised if Ramandu's Island was put further toward the beginning of the story... to build the whole Caspian/Ramandu's Daughter relationship... But that might cause trouble, because that is the beginning of the end of the world, that last part of the journey before Aslan's country. And the book also doesn't go back to tell you what happened when the Dawn Treader went back to Ramandu's island...i wonder if the script writers will add that in....

Isn't it fun to speculate????

DestrierDragon: oh, please don't say that! that would be dreadful if Ramundu's Island was put closer to the beggining of VotDT.....all for romance! I hope that doesn't happen!

I hope not either! So many things that never should be are sacrified for romance's screentime ... But Micheal Apted did a really great job balancing everthing into Amazing Grace..though he wasn't working from a beloved book!

I just listened to the last podcast today. In their conversation it came up that each of the Islands has its unique personality and that if they cut out some Islands or squished some Islands together, we would either be missing something or the characters of the Islands would change altogether. Well, I have come up with a theory that, if they do it this way, could perhaps keep all the characters of the Islands in tact, but still squish them a bit, so that there would only be five Islands!

The list of seven Islands are as follows:

-Lone Islands
-Dragon Island
-Burnt Island
-Deathwater
-The Island of the Duffers
-Dark Island
-Ramandu's Island

In my proposed arrangement of things, the list of Island would be as follows:

-Lone Islands
-Dragon Island
-Burnt Island/Deathwater
-The Island of the Duffers
-Dark Island/Ramandu's Island

Now, bear with me, these may seem like illogical choices, but I will try to make the current combination make sense.

The Lone Islands of course everyone would argue that they cannot be fused with any other Island. First of all, there are actually three Islands. An added fourth Island wouldn't make any sense at all. Furthermore, the Lone Islands are still considered normal in the Narnian sense of the word. So, to have anything happen there that originally happened at some point in the rest of the voyage, where everything was alien in the Narnian sense of the word seem rather ridiculous. Therefore, I kept it as its own Island.

On the next Island, Dragon Island, allot of things happen there (i.e. Eustace becomes a Dragon and then becomes a boy again). Personally, too much happens here for me to consider squishing in more events, which would inevitably happen if another Island were squished in. Therefore, I left Dragon Island alone, as one Island.

The Burnt Island/Deathwater combination seems to be a good combination to me. Remember what happened on burnt Island? Reep finds the little boat. Also, the crew find a sort of scorched village with signs that a dragon has been there. That pretty much sums it up I think. Now, what happened on Deathwater? I don't think I need to tell you that. It is one of the greatest moments in VDT. I do want to point out one thing that happened on Deathwater. What started everything on Deathwater was the search for water. Now, you see, the Burnt Island/Deathwater combination would work as follows: They get to the Island and start to look for water. At first they don't find water but they do find a village where the signs of a dragon are apparent. Reep finds his little boat. After this, they go to the other side of the Island and find the two streams. The rest you know. I think that the spirit of both Islands could be kept this way.

The Island of the Duffers I left as a single Island for same reason as Dragon Island. To much stuff happens here for more details to be added.

The Dark Island/Ramandu's daughter combination probably seems the most ridiculous to you but I think I can make it work. First of all I would make the Dark Island no Island at all, but just a darkness. Remember, in the story the voyagers don't actually find land, but a darkness. Therefore, the darkness was called an Island. So, what I propose, is that the Dark Island be placed right in front of Ramandu's Island. Therefore, when Aslan leads the voyagers out of the darkness, he also leads them to his Island at the beginning of the end of the world. If it were done this way, all the events, and the spirits of the Islands, could still stay the same, but the events would be squished together a little. It would be logical to assume that when the seven lords, or who was left of the seven lords, reached the darkness that one of them went in, but the rest of them sailed around it and found Ramandu's Island. So, doing it this way wouldn't change history that much either.

Well, what do you think? Is it a plausible solution that you could be content with or is it a dastardly solution that would ruin that whole movie for you?

The Dark Island/Ramandu's daughter combination probably seems the most ridiculous to you but I think I can make it work. First of all I would make the Dark Island no Island at all, but just a darkness. Remember, in the story the voyagers don't actually find land, but a darkness. Therefore, the darkness was called an Island. So, what I propose, is that the Dark Island be placed right in front of Ramandu's Island. Therefore, when Aslan leads the voyagers out of the darkness, he also leads them to his Island at the beginning of the end of the world. If it were done this way, all the events, and the spirits of the Islands, could still stay the same, but the events would be squished together a little. It would be logical to assume that when the seven lords, or who was left of the seven lords, reached the darkness that one of them went in, but the rest of them sailed around it and found Ramandu's Island. So, doing it this way wouldn't change history that much either.

I kind of like that idea. It's not so much a combining of islands as it is moving them closer together. They are so close together they almost function as one, but are still removed enough that they retain their separate identities. I don't think it would ruin the movie for me.