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luv-a-labradoodle
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I think Lucy disappears into coriakins house not through a portal but through, well, doors? They look like invisible double doors to me.You can also see steps up to where she disappears! or to the doors.. :)

Posted : August 5, 2010 12:34 pm
Movie Aristotle
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OK, I'm way late on this, but here are my un-influenced thoughts:

It looks like the stained glass window will be the opening shot of the movie based on the Walden logo look-alike nature of it.

Snow scene makes more sense now.

CG is still unfinished.

Lilliandil looks much better descending in normal speed than ascending in fast-motion.

The four thrones behind the Pevencies lead me to believe this shot is from a flashback. I know Apted used flashbacks extensively in Amazing Grace, but I thought he might keep away from flashbacks in this film for continuity purposes, since Adamson never used them. -Now that I've actually typed that down, I realize how silly that sounds. If they can throw away the Telmarine accent, then why not add a few flashbacks?

Light like a door closing? My first thoughts were Ramandu's island, but now I wonder if it isn't the Magician's island instead, based on the topiary.

"Be strong" line sounds good, except for the "lost souls" bit which reminds me of the leaked script, but in context I'm sure it'll be fine. -And I just realized, Caspian just said a line...in a trailer... and I didn't even notice the accent change. :-bd

Overall:

I like this trailer much better than the first teaser. I'm not sure why. Probably the music has a lot to do with it, and the overall tone. This trailer makes me think the film will be more mature (in a good way) than the impression I got from the first trailer. Not quite so kiddy. -And yet it doesn't lose the wonder. :)

Movie Aristotle, AKA Risto

Posted : August 5, 2010 12:51 pm
Silver the Wanderer
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(Whoa...I just knew something big was going to happen while I'm on vacation! Thank goodness for hotels with wi-fi. :p)

Anyway, I really like this trailer! I like it better than the first one, but I'm still a little disappointed. It left me with more questions than answers. Mysterious glowing light in Corakin's garden? There's thrones behind the Pevensies? And what's with the CGI?

But at least I'm convinced the "lost souls" line is referring to the Seven Lords.

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Posted : August 5, 2010 12:55 pm
AslanIsOnTheMove
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I guess I could tolerate it if she's a star in the sky for most of the movie, but to me it looks like she goes back and forth pretty frequently. That one scene from the first trailer looks like it occurs on board the ship. Then we have another shot of her standing next to a creepy tree. And finally we have her on Ramandu's Island. Doesn't look like she going to be staying a star unfortunately. :(

What if she is only half star? Maybe due to her human half she cant remain as a star. The limitations and abilities of half-stars are never made clear in the books. RD is a very mysterious character in the books and as such she doesn't really give filmmakers much to work with. She's left almost entirley up to the imagination so it shouldn't surprise us when the people in charge imagine her differently than we do.

Posted : August 5, 2010 1:01 pm
FriendofNarnia2
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I wonder if these lost souls (the seven lords) will still be banished by Miraz, or if they disappeared some other way...

Perhaps because of some temptation they fell into? I say that because supposedly the theme of the movie will be temptation.

Check out "The Magician's Nephew" and "The Last Battle" trailers I created!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwWtuk3Qafg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrPxboeZqrA

Posted : August 5, 2010 1:58 pm
narnia fan 7
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Did anyone notice that at 0:45 Susan has her Bow and arrows and Peter has Rhindon

Posted : August 5, 2010 2:05 pm
-queenSUSAN-
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My Overall Review (albeit a bit late :)

Overall, I liked the trailer. It's short :( but still good. Lots of rehashing here, but enough new stuff to make us more curious about the film, and the parts that we've seen before seem to have been re-cut for this trailer. I thought the music wasn't as good as the first one (Heart of Courage is AMAZING) but that doesn't really matter. The editing struck me as a bit choppy as well.

The opening shot is pretty cool, only I can't tell what it is, lol. Is that some place in the Lone Islands? Is it Cair Paravel rebuilt? Is it the Magician's House? (seems unlikely to me). I liked what the Walden logo did. I hope they can do that in the film.

"you have returned for a reason". I don't care what everyone else says, I think Aslan looks HORRIBLE in this shot and I hope he won't look like that in the final cut. He looks like the BBC puppet, only worse.

Lucy walking into the magician's room was cool, it was creepy and gave me chills just like the book did. I loved the big grin and look of pure delight on her face when it starts to snow--it looked so much like the 8 year old Georgie walking into Narnia for the very first time!

"You've got an extraordinary destiny!" I am having a heck of a time figuring out who says this. It sounds old and creaky, like a rusty old door. Coriakin maybe? I don't know.

That shot of Reep looks awful. And the Dawn Treader on the ocean--well, it's laughable. Someone stuck a picture of the DT on a picture of the ocean. Obviously it's not finished.

I can honestly say for the first time that Ramandu's Daughter looks AWESOME here!! I love the way she floats to the ground and sort of materializes, and the blue glow doesn't look too bad. Maybe they'll tone it down in the final film. Here's hoping.

And of course, the question that's bugging every NarniaWebber: WHERE THE HECK ARE THE PEVENSIES?!?!? And why are Susan and Peter there?!?! We are no closer to figuring this out.

The shot of someone disappearing into a door is obviously in the Magician's Garden and if it's Lucy going in to break the spell (likely) I think that's awesome. The magican's house is invisible!

Mermaid looks ok. Sorta chrome-y. Like a PT cruiser.

"the Greatest Voyage in CS Lewis's epic masterpiece" Cracked me up.

"Be strong! Think of the lost souls we're here to save. Think of Aslan. Think of Narnia!" I think (lol) that this is my favorite part of the trailer. Gives me chills. I hope that they actually have Caspian saying this at the Dark Island. I also like his accent. Caspian will actually be watchable now. #:-s ;)

I was disappointed not to see Edmund or Caspian (it seems we either hear Caspian or see him, neither at the same time) and the trailer seems largely centered on Lucy (which I don't mind, she is my favorite); we don't see any Eustace or Gael either. It seems they're keeping those two plot devices largely under wraps.

Overall, I really liked it. I liked it a lot better than I did the first trailer, right off. Wish we could've seen more though. :)

~~

Posted : August 5, 2010 2:13 pm
7chronicles
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@Icarus: Thanks for the link to the music! :D I had a feeling it was trailer music. ;)

Ok my quick thoughts on Trailer 2#:

Overall I Love it :D , I defiantly get a more VDT book feeling from this trailer then I did from the first one. :)
I think in my opinion everything was great except it was two short and it felt like it lacked a little more plot detail.
Another minute and I think it would have been perfect, maybe even thirty seconds more. :)
I Love the effects, while some still look like they could use some polishing up, overall I'm feeling good about them. :D
I am really liking the feel of this trailer! :D
I hope they release one more trailer, and use what they learned from the first two to really make it a full complete trailer. :) ;)

The Value of myth is that it takes all the things you know and restores to them the rich significance which has been hidden by the veil of familiarity. C.S. Lewis

Posted : August 5, 2010 2:53 pm
checkers
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Okay, that bit with the book dragged on for waaaay....toooo.....looooong....I was sitting at my computer going, "Are you quite finished?" As far as the rest of it...meh. Caspian's voice....ugh. I mean, I hated the Spanish accent, but for continuity's sake, I mean, c'mon! Erm....Reepicheep's CG looks worse, but that'll be fixed in editing (hopefully). As soon as I heard Caspian say "the lost souls we're here to save" I started going, "Oh no, please, NO!" But I think he meant that figuratively...I hope. On the up-side...I don't know what that door-thingy was on the Magician's Island, but it was AWESOME! I was like, "Shiny!" (Sorry, weird moment there) Ramandu's daughter looks great...oh, on the down-side again, where is Ramandu? I'm afraid they're totally taking him out of the movie. :( And....Where are the Pevensies?!?!?!? What's with that? And Caspian, I mean seriously! They've shown Coriakin more than him! We've gotten...what, one clip of him? And then one from the back? And Eustace, too, for that matter! Grrrr.....Anywho, up-side, I really liked the church/castle thing. It looked very...idk....classy? That was a nice touch. Meh-side, I've decided that the shot of Peter and Susan has got to be a dream sequence...that's all I can figure. 'Course I'm probably wrong, but oh well. The mermaid looks like metal....like Padme's ship in Attack of the Clones. xP Oh, and enough with the snow already. Didn't we leave that behind...oh, I dunno...Two movies ago?!?!?!? But, again on the up-side, I do love that Lucy is using Susan's bow, and I'm hoping from that one promo pic we saw that Ed gets Peter's sword. Caspian having his sword? Not such a big fan of that. But Edmund can have it. :) Oh, and I absolutely LOVE the music. I know that's not the stuff that's gonna be in the movie (if it is, somebody please tell me so I can go celebrate), but it's great anyway. :D But overall....it looks... disappointing. The trailers for Prince Caspian were AMAZING, and I found that movie to be a tiny bit disappointing. Just a tiny bit, though. :) These trailers, on the other hand, look bad to me, soooo.....I dunno. Not much hope right now. But wait! I'm supposed to Return to Hope! :D I think I will! *crosses fingers and waits for December*

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Posted : August 5, 2010 5:49 pm
GlimGlum
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I liked seeing a few new shots such as the beginning and Lilliandil's appearing as she did. It was also nice to get a glimpse of Coriakin's garden and the hallway behind Lucy before she enters the "magical library".

And, I liked hearing Ben Barnes voice as Caspian in his normal accent.

However, I do agree with the following:

Pretty much what Lucy P. said. The Dawn Treader sailing looks shockingly fake and Reep looks terrible, which is really surprising because the previous shots of him looked fairly decent.

Maybe they are holding back on us and will blow us away with the final trailer(s). :-o

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Posted : August 5, 2010 6:27 pm
Bookwyrm
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@AslanIsOnTheMove: There's a problem with your theory though. Movie! Ramandu's Daughter glows in the dark and pretty much resembles the description of non-retired stars in LB other than her looking creepily radioactive. Book!Ramandu's Daughter doesn't even slightly resemble the descriptions of full stars and doesn't glow. Ramandu, even aged and retired, does still glow. Apparently Lewis didn't seem to think she had any star powers, no matter her origins. Her depiction in the trailers and apparent flying around in the sky isn't an interpretation of the character. It's taking a character and adding things to it that aren't indicated by the book. It'd be like if in the LotR movies, Aragorn had joined in Elrond's and Galadriel's long-distance eyeball conversations, run around the battlefield skating on shields like Legolas, and Peter Jackson argued it was okay to have Aragorn do these things because he was part elf.

And again, Narnian stars are not balls of glowing gas. They're glowing humanoid creatures in the sky. The book makes that fairly plain when the characters are confused by the fact that Ramandu is a star, but looks humanish. Having her turn into a ball of glowing gas is not a case of the film-makers interpreting a vague character, it's ignoring clearly established canon elements of the story to do something "cool" looking. But at this point we really shouldn't be surprised that they would do this considering they ignored the books' description of the dryads and created the absurd flowery dryads.

I suppose in the end all changes to Ramandu's Daughter will be justified by the argument that it allows she and Caspian to get to know each other better. A far simpler and less obnoxious alternative would have been to have Ramandu's Island come directly after the Lone Islands and have Ramandu's Daughter join the crew as a guide to the end of the world. Sure it would have diverted from the book, but I think it would have been far less offensive to people who actually read and care about the books than turning her into the Glowy Exposition Orb.

Posted : August 5, 2010 7:01 pm
Movie Aristotle
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Yes, but it would be less romantic. :x :p

"You've got an extraordinary destiny!" I am having a heck of a time figuring out who says this. It sounds old and creaky, like a rusty old door. Coriakin maybe? I don't know.

I think it is Reepicheep. I think the sound bite we heard in the first trailer was recorded specifically for the trailer, but the sound bite we are hearing now is straight out of the movie. It seems pretty raw, -like the sound guys haven't had a chance to clean it up yet.

Also, ever since the first trailer I've wondered: Is he really saying "You've got an extraordinary destiny"? If Reep is really the one saying it, mightn't he be saying "I've got an extraordinary destiny"? The "You've/I've" has always been a little garbled, so I'm unsure. In this trailer it sounds more like "I've". It makes a lot more sense if Reep is talking about himself, -and his prophecy.

Movie Aristotle, AKA Risto

Posted : August 5, 2010 7:23 pm
icarus
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I think the "lost souls" quote was probably in reference to the seven lords? I don't know, it's the only thing that makes much sense. ;))

Whether he's using the word "Souls" in the literal or figurative sense, i'd be pretty certain in saying he is referring to the Lost Narnian Slaves - all the evidence we've had so far indicates that the finding of the lost narnian slaves is seemingly a very important requirement of their mission to save Narnia (as well as having a personal connection for both Rhince and Gael).

I'd also be fairly certain given that the lost slaves will be rescued during the climax of the movie from the Dark Island, and that this line is Caspian's final rallying cry to his men to hold fast and be strong during their climatic battle with the "darkness".

The opening shot is pretty cool, only I can't tell what it is, lol. Is that some place in the Lone Islands? Is it Cair Paravel rebuilt? Is it the Magician's House? (seems unlikely to me). I liked what the Walden logo did. I hope they can do that in the film.

I did mention in my post on the first page here exactly what this building is. It's a pretty famous real world building ;) Do a google image search for "Cambridge" and it should be one of the first lot of buildings that comes up (hint: its the same building that was at the start of the teaser trailer)

Posted : August 5, 2010 8:47 pm
Silver the Wanderer
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And, I liked hearing Ben Barnes voice as Caspian in his normal accent.

I was worried that the switch in accents was going to be too jarring. But actually, I didn't even notice the switch until you mentioned it! In the trailer, I knew right away that it was Caspian speaking. I'm very happy that the switch is a smooth one. #:-s

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Posted : August 6, 2010 3:07 am
mm1991
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I am going to make this statement here and now. I don't like the direction these films are going in. The filmmakers are not taking the story seriously and they're making it kiddie & cheesy and I don't like it at all. I'm now doubting I even want to see this movie.
:(

"Today you are you, that is truer than true. There is no one alive who is youer than you!"
- Dr. Seuss

Posted : August 6, 2010 4:37 am
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