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decarus
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It looks like Caspian is holding something, like a piece of paper when they are searching for Eustace. Maybe a map. If they have a map what could they be looking for?

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Posted : August 19, 2010 6:00 pm
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My problem is that Eustace' reaction to the skeleton didn't feel true. He would be totally repulsed.

I disagree. I think the scene makes it clear that once Eustace sets his eyes on the treasure, he disregards everything else and considers the skeleton a mere nuisance and casts it aside in order to get what he really wants, the arm band. I think it works very well with his selfish character.

I don't have too much else to say that others haven't except that after seeing these three clips, my excitement for the finished film has definitely gone up.

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Posted : August 19, 2010 6:45 pm
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Have just seen the three new clips and I'm so excited for the film. :D

My favourite one was the second one with Eustace and the treasure. I still have a lot of hope that the first Dragon will make an appearance here. As Trufflehunter pointed out there is a faint but definite appearance of smoke on Eustace's face in the last frame we see of him in this clip before the scene cuts to Caspian and Edumund. I think also that this scene with Eustace is too short to be the entire scene as it will appear in the film. Firstly, there is no explanation of how Eustace is made into a dragon (although I suppose this could come after the Caspian/Edmund scene as a type of flashback). Secondly, the clip does not explain what Eustace is looking at in the last frame we see of him (when you think about it you never see a character in a movie look in horror at something the audience can't see and then never see an explanation of it for the rest of the film). My bet is that it is indeed the first dragon that Eustace is looking at. Thirdly, there is no sense of "time passing" in this clip which would explain why Caspian/Edmund are frantically looking for Eustace (although I suppose this could be part of a scene immediately before this clip starts). In short there is a lack of "atmosphere" in this scene (even though I love it :) ) which makes me think that it is very incomplete as yet. I might add that I think this applies to at least the first two clips of this little "package," I just don't have time to go into the others right now :(

Anyway just a few thoughts on the second clip we saw today. I thought all three clips were extremely encouraging and make me want to run out and watch the movie now :D

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Posted : August 19, 2010 7:47 pm
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I think the third clip suggests what we'd already suspected: Eustace becomes a dragon much later in the film than he does in the book. Why would be be describing what it felt like to be undragoned days or weeks later?

In the second clip, when Caspian says "I'm sorry," my first impression was that Caspian was somehow being enchanted by the treasure, but was still trying to offer his condolences to Edmund (apparently believing Eustace has died).

The dialogue sounds less modern, which is good.

I had the same thought. With Eustace especially. I wonder if that was an intentional decision.


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Posted : August 19, 2010 9:54 pm
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I like the contrasts we are seeing between the Pevensies and Eustace, starting with the rooms they are in - Eustace is in a nicely furnished and comfortable room which may be his bedroom (it gives a sense of lots of soft materials) while Lucy is in the spare room, with a hard hospital style bed and painted walls in need of repair. In fact I wonder if it's the attic room where a servant might have slept once?

I think this and the conversation with Eustace are part of showing the "culture difference" between the two families - rather than showing the Scrubbs as fresh air fiends, vegetarians, and wearers of special underclothes!! We see how they treat each other.

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Posted : August 20, 2010 12:01 am
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I really liked Eustace!!! He is soooo annoying in the first clip :D . He is everything I imagined him to be!

In the second clip I loved the way Caspian and Ed looked. They both look so kingly compared to Eusatce :)

In the third clip Caspian looks so much bigger than Ed! I love the contrast between Eustace in the beginning and Eustace in the end. Even the way he talks. He isn't so annoying :p


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Posted : August 20, 2010 1:35 am
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My problem is that Eustace' reaction to the skeleton didn't feel true. He would be totally repulsed.

I disagree. I think the scene makes it clear that once Eustace sets his eyes on the treasure, he disregards everything else and considers the skeleton a mere nuisance and casts it aside in order to get what he really wants, the arm band. I think it works very well with his selfish character.

Also, would Eustace really be repulsed by a skeleton? I mean, he could almost be the kind of guy who likes skeletons. He is the guy that loves dead insects pinned to a board.

Also notice, that although he isn't exactly put off by the skeleton, he does push it away rather quickly. One reason being that he is so anxious to get the arm bracelet, but also because he probably doesn't want to be close to the skeleton for too long.

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Posted : August 20, 2010 1:42 am
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I like the contrasts we are seeing between the Pevensies and Eustace, starting with the rooms they are in - Eustace is in a nicely furnished and comfortable room which may be his bedroom (it gives a sense of lots of soft materials) while Lucy is in the spare room, with a hard hospital style bed and painted walls in need of repair. In fact I wonder if it's the attic room where a servant might have slept once?

I think this and the conversation with Eustace are part of showing the "culture difference" between the two families - rather than showing the Scrubbs as fresh air fiends, vegetarians, and wearers of special underclothes!! We see how they treat each other.

^ That has always been my favorite part of Lewis' description of the Scrubbs!

Your observation about the differences between the two rooms is spot on. I didn't notice it at first but you're definitely right. Good attention to detail on the part of the production.

Posted : August 20, 2010 1:57 am
Malfhok
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In the third clip, speaking as a film and audio editor, I am very, very sure that Eustace's talk about his undragoning is from another scene. It doesn't flow into the close up of him, and they were so careful to keep that audio over shots where his mouth wasn't visible. I don't know if y'all can hear it (it's an audio editor thing), but little nuances between the two sections make me think that something was cut out, anyway.

I'll bet they were just talking about Aslan's Country and that gets to Aslan himself, which gives them a chance to talk about Eustace's transformation once again.

And I'm also very certain that the atrocious editing of all three clips will be smoothed out. Likely, those scenes will be much longer in the final movie.

I love Dante Spinotti's cinematography, even with the rough editing. It's certainly more motivated than what we saw in Prince Caspian.

Posted : August 20, 2010 1:59 am
FriendofNarnia2
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I like these clips a lot more than any of the ones we saw for Prince Caspian before it was released.

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Posted : August 20, 2010 2:06 am
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Malfhok, I agree with you about the cinematography. Prince Caspian was very "epic" but not very fluid.

My first thought in watching the clips was how very like the books they were.
Of course, there were small things (like the presence of Gael) that needle me, but I really think VDT may be the most loyal yet in terms of providing the same overall feel and atmosphere that the book gave to me.


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Posted : August 20, 2010 4:22 am
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I really like the clips although it leaves me with a lot of questions it also gives me comfort. Eustace is excellent :D (although he does sound a little odd). The scene are clearly not the finished product and are edited down.
I didn't notice Lucy looking in the mirror until I read about it and watched the clip two more times. :p
Any one have a transcript of them? Or at least can tell me what Edmund says about Eustace in the limerick? I can't quite catch it.

I'm sure Eustace just uses the word "orphan" to get to Edmund and Lucy. If something really had happened to their parents the response would have been much different. I think he was trying to rub in that they had been "abandoned" by their parents i.e. forced to stay with Eustace and his family (this would be especially insulting if their parents and Susan were on some kind of a vacation).


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Posted : August 20, 2010 4:36 am
joy93
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I think this the best footage we have had so far!!!!! The shot with the lillies was beautifull!! And Will is brilliant!!!! He is everything I imagined Eustace being!!!! But I do not remember him turning into a dragon in the day, and I dont remember Caspian or Edmund being there :- We will just have to see how it plays out in the movie. Overall GREAT clips!!!!!! :D They make me even more excited about the movie!!!!!!! ;)

Posted : August 20, 2010 4:43 am
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I am so glad Edmund forgives Eustace in the third clip. It seems a lot better than BBC, where they didn't talk. I loved Ed feeling guilty for what happened to Eustace. It was kind of like Peter in LWW but better!

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Posted : August 20, 2010 4:53 am
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It looks like Caspian is holding something, like a piece of paper when they are searching for Eustace. Maybe a map. If they have a map what could they be looking for?

It's Eustace's sweater/vest thing. :)

Or at least can tell me what Edmund says about Eustace in the limerick? I can't quite catch it.

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Posted : August 20, 2010 5:16 am
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