Discussing how Christian VDT was is hardly discussing the greenlighting of SC.
Haha. Good point Bookwyrm.
I may regret saying this, but right now I want The Silver Chair to be greenlit. If they get a new director, I still have hope for it and, hey, it would mean at least another two years anticipating on NarniaWeb!
They might use various legitimate reasons, but no matter how good the movies are they won't like them. Likewise the die hard purist fans of the series I believe also will never be satisfied.
I love the 'LotR' books about loved the movies.
I like the 'Harry Potter' movies and the movies are okay.
I love the 'Watchmen' graphic novel and liked the movie.
I love the first two Narnia books, and the movies are good.
I love the VDT book, and movie was embarrassing to watch.
I'm sorry that I was a part of the off-topic direction. I must have gotten lost in thought reading through the comments and responded without careful inspection of important details.
To the topic of the green lighting of the next CoN film; I hope it happens. For the reasons Reepicheep775 stated. If nothing else, it will spark many more fantastic Narnia Web discussions.
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Sorry about my off topic comments. Sometimes I forget which thread I am in. I really want this film to be green lit. Not just because I liked it. Eustace was really a high point for me in VDT. I enjoyed every scene he was in. It will be really nice to see him on screen again. I also prefer TSC to VDT as a book. However, i'm starting to think they might not do it. I was sure they would, but now with it on pace barely clearing 400 million worldwide, if that, I don't think they will. Or they will cut the budget again, which I do not agree with. It's better to stop the movies, then to have four movies with an obvious decrease in special effects quality as they progress.
Tough call. I didn't appreciate the lower-quality VFX in The Voyage of the Dawn Treader, but I probably would've put up with them if the vision and script were half decent.
I think Silver Chair could be the turning point for the series. Critics seemed to mostly enjoy Will Poulter as Eustace, but I think audiences want out with the Pevensies. Silver Chair would give them just that, and more. As my favorite of the Chronicles, I hope it gets greenlit soon!
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Hmm. That's an interesting possibility, Trufflehunter! A big change in characters could boost the series! Of course, if the advertising department continues to present the movies as containing every character from LWW and PC we'll never know.
The advertising we've seen for VDT really scrapes the bottom of the barrel - it's hard to imagine it getting worse, but with the dept. that churned out this monstrosity, anything is possible. Which is why my hopes for SC aren't so good.
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Well it depends which trailer you see. The teaser I felt wasn't that great, but the second trailer was amazing. Pry the best one. The way it started with them at the wall of water made it look pretty epic. I actually thought that the special effects were really good in VDT. I saw it in both 2D and 3D and didn't see any moments where I thought wow, I can tell thats fake. Actually most of them stood up to me seeing it 3 times, and usually it's the 3rd time I notice the most special effects flaws. That's why I'm happy with the current budget of 140-155 million. I think they can do a very good job with that money. If we drop to 100 million I think we will start to notice the corners getting cut. A good part of the magic for me in Narnia is some of the amazing visuals. So if they cut the budget way down I almost prefer them to not green light the TSC. Also, I don't think they can afford the public perception that this is a low budget fantasy movie. People usually are aware, to a degree, the level of the budgets involved, and respond accordingly.
I think they can do SC with $150. I agree with Tarquin that the effects in VDT looked pretty good, at least to me personally. (Then again I am no expert with these things and I tend to only see flaws with special effects after multiple viewings.)
Even with LWW, there were some problems with the CGI, and that movie had a larger budget.
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And SC will not require the building of a big fancy ship or filming from a helicopter. So they can make it on an even smaller budget. They don't even need to go 3D.
Aravis Narnia I think you`re right that they don`t need the 3D. I don`t know how much it helped VDT. You know, personally, I am looking for films in 2D these days because I dislike 3D and there are so many 3D movies!
If other people are like me, then I think 3D could hurt the film.
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And SC will not require the building of a big fancy ship or filming from a helicopter. So they can make it on an even smaller budget. They don't even need to go 3D.
Well, sorry, they do need to go 3D. I know that HPDH Part 1 did splendidly without 3D. But that is a franchise that can well afford to play catch-up with a 3D release for all of the films later on.
What is happening in the home front is that just as DVD replaced videocassette, blu-ray is displacing DVD, especially when blu-ray can show 3D and DVD can't. This is why there are umpteen DVD versions of movies past in Walmart's bins.
However, I do agree with you that SC won't require the building of a big fancy ship. That effort must have cost more than $5 million dollars, just to build the Dawn Treader. And then the film makers need to factor in a gimbal to use this marvellous ship, transport between locations when necessary, labour costs for those people dismantling the ship and those setting it up again, plus hire of Warner Brother's facilities at Coomera, and setting up sets to match the interior of Dawn Treader at Coomera. Did the transfer of facilities from Mexico to Queensland also involve hiring a water tank, for instance?
I don't know how much this all amounted to, but I guess it would have been well in excess of $10 million. Possibly as much as $20 million or even much higher, by the time the money used to hire all those rowboats was added in. Not to mention the water tank in Mexico that was never used. Whatever budget is allotted to SC, it wouldn't hurt to take VDT's extra costs into account before complaining about a shortfall.
I really would have liked to see a balance sheet of what money went where in VDT's production, before I finally make up my mind about whether SC can be greenlit. At the moment, VDT is looking good, and may even equal PC's foreign result, which I agree is a good beginning for the film to aim at.
Please. I wish 3D would just jump off a jetty. It's tacky and hugely expensive.
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