Um yes, thank you. I do know that. Before WW2, my Dad went to Newington College, who had a wyvern on their school crest. I think you are probably right, anyway. There is something frilly, fangy and decidedly pointy about Pauline Baynes's drawing of the serpent Prince Rilian is slaying, and a wyvern sounds original at any rate.

Rilian should've been focused on leading his people, not avenging his wife.

Whilst I agree with you about what Rilian should have done, it is his mother he was avenging, not his wife. That is to say, Lilliandil, the wife of Caspian X, Rilian's father. There is a huge difference you know. I've reason to think that LOTGK wanted to be Rilian's wife for some reason. Now how does this very psychological stuff get explained PG?

Um yes, thank you. I do know that. Before WW2, my Dad went to Newington College, who had a wyvern on their school crest. I think you are probably right, anyway. There is something frilly, fangy and decidedly pointy about Pauline Baynes's drawing of the serpent Prince Rilian is slaying, and a wyvern sounds original at any rate.

Rilian should've been focused on leading his people, not avenging his wife.

Whilst I agree with you about what Rilian should have done, it is his mother he was avenging, not his wife. That is to say, Lilliandil, the wife of Caspian X, Rilian's father. There is a huge difference you know. I've reason to think that LOTGK wanted to be Rilian's wife for some reason. Now how does this very psychological stuff get explained PG?

Or for that matter, the WW's offer to both Digory and Edmund to her mate. It ain't all PG in implication . That Rilian was attracted to an older woman is pretty mild in comparison!

Oops, sorry, of course I mean Rilian's 'mother', not 'wife'. Stupid moment. Don't mind me. Yes, not everything in the Narnia books could be done with a PG-rating. I too agree that the Lady of the Green Kirtle wished to be his wife, but in an I'm-going-to-imprison-you-and-feed-you-lies kind of way. Not a healthy relationship, that's for sure.

IDK, but I have a feeling they should cast a US girl for the part of Jill. Maybe she could be bullied for not having the accent, or for being from the USA. That would cool to give USA girls a chance for their dreams to come true!

I'm afraid that USA girls' dreams are not the main concern in casting Jill. She is an English girl in an English school in England, in 1943.

That said, I think the entire production of SC should be handled very carefully, as the success of it will determine whether or not we'll get the rest of the series. Seriously, I think the screenwriting team should consult at least a group of us Narniawebbers for guidance and direction. If they would even take a look at our forums and see what kind of things we deem important, that would be enough. Because we, as fans of Narnia, have a deep understanding of the world of Narnia, as well as what it meant to Lewis. That should help steer them in the right direction.

That would be great, but I don't think it's going to happen. I think pretty much everyone here would agree that the films would be better if they just trusted their source material and tried their hardest to make the movies keep its integrity. We're probably right. Alas, I don't think the film-makers can do that. If, in their minds, deviating from the book will draw in more crowds, they'll do it.

Another thing to remember is that us NarniaWebbers and other diehards are going to see the movie regardless of how they butcher it. They're goal is to bring in additional people it seems. If The Voyage of the Dawn Treader had stuck to the book, it would've been a masterpiece and would've done better at the box office. Again, I think The Silver Chair has great potential as a film with only minor changes from the book. Seriously.

Lately, I've been thinking of what needs to be done for SC, and I've decided that one thing that means a lot to me is that the movie makers go back to the heart of the book, not the magic. VDT (sorta) went back to the magic of LWW, but it never really was close to the book. SC doesn't need to be tackled and changed to make it the best movie of the year, because this one can work very well with only a few changes. Now's the time Walden and Fox to make a movie that won't have such mixed feelings. I hope the heart of the book will be much stronger than it was in the film before it.

The other suggestion I would be against would be Tim Burton as director. His works are too dark and obscure.

What? It's his dark spin on things that would be perfect for the Silver Chair. We need a director who can make a film pretty dark, yet keep it PG. Burton has done that in many films.

Besides after the sickly sweet kiddieness of Voyage of the Dawn Treader, this series can use a little darkness to spice it up.

Yeah, this IS a darker story like PC, but Tim would likely make it even darker, more scary and strange, and even less Narnian than needed. Besides, I doubt the Narnia movies are his type, even if he did "Alice in Wonderland."

Like I said, I don't know who'd be the best for this film, but this guy really needs to understand the book, it's themes, and how to make it work as close to it as possible (besides some minor changes). I really hope the director can achieve what VDT failed a lot on.

Yeah, this IS a darker story like PC, but Tim would likely make it even darker, more scary and strange, and even less Narnian than needed. Besides, I doubt the Narnia movies are his type, even if he did "Alice in Wonderland."

Like I said, I don't know who'd be the best for this film, but this guy really needs to understand the book, it's themes, and how to make it work as close to it as possible (besides some minor changes). I really hope the director can achieve what VDT failed a lot on.

Yeah, I agree. And I'm not sure if the tone of The Silver Chair is necessarily "darker" in the Tim Burton sense. I think SC is more serious in tone than anything. Burton's kind of darkness always involves something very much occultish or ghoulish. Neither, I think, is appropriate for Narnia. Elements of either might appear (the hag and werewolf) but they never set the tone.

Thats the thing though. The Silver Chair does have a very weird feel to it. And I think his designs for the Gnomes and the Owls and the Serpant could all be very creative.

And there should be a occultish feel whenever the Lady of the Green Kirtle is around and during the whole Underland sequence. But Burton's films are only "occultish" if the plot revolves around the occult. The Silver Chair does not revolve around that so I don't think it would be much of an issue.

I honestly do think that the series could use a different feel in each film. The books were all different. I just read the Silver Chair again, and this movie definitely has more potential to be weird and dark. Tim Burton might be a little extreme, though. I never saw Alice In Wonderland, but I believe that I read somewhere he made some drastic changes from the original story line. I see him as a directer who has his own unique vision of a film and will not really respect the source material.

I think there's an interesting flashback possibility in the beginning of the film. Anyhow, it would be great to start SC with a scene of Ramandu's daughter ('Lilliandil') and Prince Rilian's death/capture. It would plunge us right into the middle of the plot and make for a less meandering opening than VDT.

I can't express enough the importance of the film-makers finding the right tone for The Silver Chair. They can't lighten up The Silver Chair into the sickly sweet tone of The Voyage of the Dawn Treader (movie). It would be even worse. At the same time the film-makers shouldn't darken it. Certainly not to the point of driving away families like Prince Caspian (movie) apparently did.

For me the major theme of The Silver Chair is hopelessness and remaining steadfast throughout it. So the movie should have a gloomier tone, but it should have glimpses of heroism alomg the way. The gloominess doesn't have to be, and shouldn't be, scary or violent. Just gloomy. Actually a good example is the first Narnia movie during the Hundred Year Winter. The land was in despair, but it never ceased to feel like a fairy tale.

I think there's an interesting flashback possibility in the beginning of the film. Anyhow, it would be great to start SC with a scene of Ramandu's daughter ('Lilliandil') and Prince Rilian's death/capture. It would plunge us right into the middle of the plot and make for a less meandering opening than VDT.

that would be a great idea

Once again it was not Prince Caspian's tone that killed the movie. It was the marketing that made it seem way darker than it really was, the lack of marketing to the Christian fanbase, and the RELEASE DATE.

Had Caspian been released at a better time and made more money, the film would have established Narnia as a more stable franchise and Voyage of the Dawn Treader would naturally do better.

And as for the tone, it should be gloomy and there should be several moments of despair. The tone itself shouldnt be all dark, but there are a few dark scenes that need to be handled right.