To be honest, I don't even remember the soundtrack. I was too distracted by my beloved book being killed onscreen.
I personally think David Arnold's score was beautiful. The last three tracks are really especially moving.
BTW I think after watching VDT for the third time that Bruce Spence really would be great as Puddleglum. He's a tall actor and Puddleglum's supposed to be tall, at least for me.
BTW with the serpent scene, I think it would be just as scary to do it as a pretty realistic looking snake and not go overly fancy-CGI with it. And if they have the same company that did the Dufflepuds for the Harfang Giants that'd be great.
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What's boomslang?
An extremely venemous (and green) snake.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boomslang
I don't know why but I always pictures the serpent as either a boomslang or a type of green tree viper
more tree vipers: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_viper
Wasn't the snake somewhat bigger in SC? This snake can wrap itself around Prince Rilian for example, like a boa constrictor. Definitely Nagini sized and quite the equivalent.
This is a very interesting conversation. I don't think I know about actors and directors enough to put in my two cents on who I want to play which part, but I can say that I would be firmly against Johnny Depp as Puddleglum. One, he's too well known. Like someone pointed out earlier, most of us wouldn't be able to get past it being Depp. Two, he just doesn't feel right for Puddleglum. The other suggestion I would be against would be Tim Burton as director. His works are too dark and obscure. He would completely ruin Narnia.
I don't know whether I would be okay with Apted coming back. I'm still not sure whether it was his directing that ruined VDT, or if it was just the screenwriters. We'll definitely need new screenwriters, though, hands-down. VDT's script was absolutely awful! Also, for some reason, VDT just didn't feel like the Narnia I've come to love like LWW and even PC did. I don't remember who said it, and I'm not going back to check, but someone pointed out that whoever directs SC should be true to Narnia and have an understanding of Narnia as a place and a respect for Lewis and his ideals while still having vision. I just don't know who would fit that bill, as I am not familiar with directors.
That said, I think the entire production of SC should be handled very carefully, as the success of it will determine whether or not we'll get the rest of the series. Seriously, I think the screenwriting team should consult at least a group of us Narniawebbers for guidance and direction. If they would even take a look at our forums and see what kind of things we deem important, that would be enough. Because we, as fans of Narnia, have a deep understanding of the world of Narnia, as well as what it meant to Lewis. That should help steer them in the right direction.
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I'm rereading SC and the snake is described in the book as being about the width of Jill Pole's waist. For some reason I'm LOL as I type that. But yeah I'm thinking boa constrictor size as mentioned above.
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Interesting that you mentioned Nagini, Waggawerwolf; I've been a little worried lately what with all the HP success, people might see LoGk and say it's just a cop-off of Charity Burbage/Nagini. I don't necessarily think that the snake need be so based upon a real snake; I wouldn't mind them just making up and designing a new one, since I expect the thing will be CG anyways.
As for the score, I've wanted Nicholas Hooper for some time now. David Arnold's score was passable, even good, but not enough for me to really want him back. Also, he tends to work in sync with Michael Apted, so if we lose the one we must (probably) also lose the other.
Wasn't the snake somewhat bigger in SC? This snake can wrap itself around Prince Rilian for example, like a boa constrictor. Definitely Nagini sized and quite the equivalent.
Well yes that picture only worked for the first half of the book, but it kind of stuck in my head (Like I said that was how I pictured it, not what's acurate )
The problem is that I don't know of any snake that's both venomous, and python-sized (let alone a green one) which is another reason to use a cgi snake, then the filmmakers won't have to worry about bugging people like me with their scientific innacurracies Besides either a python or a tree viper would be much too dangerous.
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Interesting that you mentioned Nagini, Waggawerwolf; I've been a little worried lately what with all the HP success, people might see LoGk and say it's just a cop-off of Charity Burbage/Nagini. I don't necessarily think that the snake need be so based upon a real snake; I wouldn't mind them just making up and designing a new one, since I expect the thing will be CG anyways.
I'm sure that the snake will be CGI. Probably a very green snake. And I wouldn't worry too much about LOTGK being a rip-off from Nagini. I strongly suspect there might be a reverse connection. I doubt that it is mere coincidence that Voldemort's snake is female and is echoed by a previous, very dangerous snake. When boomslang skin was mentioned, I immediately thought boomslang skin and polyjuice potion in HP. And yes, Nagini's poisons definitely work the same way as is described in the Wikipedia article.
There is no way I could write anything half as imaginative as what JKR or C.S.Lewis could write. But one day I mentioned jokingly I'd like to write a book about the similarities between the HP wizarding world and C.S.Lewis' Narnia world which I am sure inspired it. I'm beginning to think it is a good idea.
Well considering that JK Rowling has cited CS Lewis as one of her authors, I'm sure there's plenty of material to write on that subject. Just last week I noticed that the Goblet of Fire movie featured Durmstrang's ship as having the head of a dragon as it's prow. Hmmm...
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The description in the book leads me to believe that the Green Lady (not the one from Perelandra;) ) turns into a smaller serpentine dragon-type creature. I can't remember what they're called.
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A wyvern?
‘Then rightly you game the name to the youngest of your children,’ said Ambarussa, ‘and Umbarto “the Fated” was its true form.’ –The Shibboleth of Fëanor.
I think, in regards to the serpent, the BBC version got it right. Size matters not, to quote Yoda. I can't remember the description from the book about the serpent when it bit the queen. But it makes sense that the witch could make the serpent any size she wanted in transforming. She needed to kill the queen, so she did it as a small little serpent. When fighting Rilian she obviously needed to be a very large serpent. Also, in the book Drinian asks Rilian not to pursue the "witless brute" in revenge. If the snake were normal-sized, this comment makes sense. If it was a huge Nagini-sized snake I think anyone would say "ok...that's definitely not normal. Let's kill it."
"Even in literature and art, no man who bothers about originality will ever be original: whereas if you simply try to tell the truth you will, nine times out of ten, become original without ever having noticed."- CS Lewis
The BBC version of the serpent was beyond awful! I can find more realistic rubber snakes in the cheap shops. Also, the serpent wasn't small when it bit Ramandu's Daughter, it's referred to as a 'great serpent' (that implies that's it's at least human-sized). Drinian tells Rilian not to pursue the great serpent because he knows revenge doesn't benefit anyone and consumes people. Also, he probably recognised that the serpent wasn't natural and that no good would come of hunting it. Rilian should've been focused on leading his people, not avenging his wife.
Umbarto, thanks yes, that's the word I wanted. A wyvern.
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The BBC version of the serpent was beyond awful! I can find more realistic rubber snakes in the cheap shops. Also, the serpent wasn't small when it bit Ramandu's Daughter, it's referred to as a 'great serpent' (that implies that's it's at least human-sized).
Umbarto, thanks yes, that's the word I wanted. A wyvern.
Well, I wasn't exactly arguing that it looked great . Just about the size. You're right. Just pulled out SC-book, and it does say "a great serpent."
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Ah, good. We're on the same page.
Wagga, I wouldn't worry about Nagini. A wyvern looks very different.
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