I think the serpent issue is easy. Its head, in the movie, doesn't need to be "hacked off". Seriously, it doesn't. The important part of the scene is that the Lady of the Green Kirtle is killed, how she is killed isn't really that important.
I agree that it doesn't really matter how the sword is used to kill the Lady of the Green Kirtle, just that it's done.
And plus, it will be interesting to see how HP and the DH2 deals with Nagini, but like others have said, that film will be PG-13, so it doesn't hold too much relevance. I think they could get fairly graphic with it with a PG-13 rating. And if I remember correctly, Nagini still moves around after her head is cut off, so where that is concerned, the deaths are similar.
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YEs i think it will be rated PG-13 if they put that scene in SC.
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I'm still struggling to see how the serpent being beheaded would be a problem. The blood is green, not red. The Lady of the Green Kirtle is a witch who turned into a serpent, not a person, that's being killed. A snake with a mushed-up head is an everyday occurence in some parts of the world. Many children who live on farms and the like would've seen countless snakes, some dead.
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I don't see why the serpent's death couldn't be done with a PG rating (just so long as we didn't actually clearly see the beheading ). Aslan's death was in a PG movie, and while I didn't think it was overly graphic or anything, I didn't think it lacked intensity. I don't recall any blood either. But if the way they portrayed his death (and it was mostly off-screen) was still able to be PG, then I don't see why the serpent's death in SC would be a problem.
Don't forget either, Miraz was a human (the stabbing was off-screen too), and PC was PG.
....A snake with a mushed-up head is an everyday occurence in some parts of the world. Many children who live on farms and the like would've seen countless snakes, some dead.
But a mushed up head in 3D on a big screen probably wouldn't fly for PG. I'm not a little kid but I still get squeamish after I've killed a spider.
I agree with Lady Galadriel if they do enough cutaways they could still pull a PG and keep the intensity, provided they also had a good film editor and director who'd know the type of shots needed to make the intensity come across.
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A lot of it depends on the kid too though... that's the only problem I have with the rating systems... For instance I started watching Jurassic Park when I was 8 and my dad let me watch The Lost World with him (much to the dismay of my mother) But I was perfectly fine... I probably could have seen that when I was 4 even and it wouldn't have bothered me. At the same time, I still can't watch some alien/chupracabra/mothman shows without having to stay up all night with the light on. And by shows I mean the documentaries usually (MonsterQuest, Animal X)
I can't see beheading it being the problem (I agree with you guys here I don't really care how they kill it)... it being mobile afterwords could be the problem... and the zoologist/ caring person in me would hate to see them show it still because it is innacurate and because people so often don't realize that even dead snakes can be dangerous, but at the same time I don't want then to cancel the series/ or creep a kid out because of it...
I just wish this would be as easy as the Aslan sacrifice scene (and really the undragoning didn't have to be as difficult as they seemed to make it) but in this case I'm thinking they're gonna end up just killing the snake and (enter the zoologist cringe factor) show a still, immobile, and scienifically innaccurate.
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It occurred to me today that they might be able to give Ben Barnes a bigger role in SC if they add a few scenes from his voyage east. He might have flashbacks along the way about his romance with Liliandil. And his voyage could end with him seeing Aslan and turning back to Narnia. Then the next time we see him would be his death scene.
This would make Caspian a bit more of a presence in this movie, augment the film to satisfy the filmmakers who worry that the book is not enough material for a movie, and fill in the gaps between the two films. It would also help the transition from the Pevencies to new main characters.
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I think the serpent issue is easy. Its head, in the movie, doesn't need to be "hacked off". Seriously, it doesn't. The important part of the scene is that the Lady of the Green Kirtle is killed, how she is killed isn't really that important.
Yes it does matter. The Lady of the Green Kirtle/Snake getting her head cut off is FREAKING AWESOME!!! I love it when the bad guys get a gross, but satisfying demise. I would hate it if they ruined the death scene to appeal to 5 year olds who probably wouldnt understand the movie anyway.
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Yes evan if they do rate it PG-13 or evan R, i would love to see it.
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They would never make the movie R rated. That's just ridiculous.
If we get SC, and that's looking like a big if now, I doubt seriously we'll even see the head cut off. It'll happen off-screen, same as the head-chopping in PC. Heaven forbid they show something a step above cartoon violence.
Yes evan if they do rate it PG-13 or evan R, i would love to see it.
Wow I guess I'm not the only one who would flock to the movie theater if Narnia was rated PG-13 or R... It would be seriously dark and epic.. But unlikely
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A PG-13 or R Narnia movie would do terrible at the box office. I mean, you realize that other than Narniawebbers, it's mostly families with children going to the theaters to see these movies, right?
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A PG-13 or R Narnia movie would do terrible at the box office. I mean, you realize that other than Narniawebbers, it's mostly families with children going to the theaters to see these movies, right?
You're being too closed-minded! Consider the possibilities for an R-rated Silver Chair: they could drop CoN from the title and change it to something sexier like Eustace vs the Man-Eating Silver Chair of Doom . . . Bring in a whole new demographic.
A PG-13 or R Narnia movie would do terrible at the box office. I mean, you realize that other than Narniawebbers, it's mostly families with children going to the theaters to see these movies, right?
You are 100% correct! A rated 'R' Silver Chair would bomb at the box office.. Big time! But it would intrigue me greatly. I guess this is the closest image I can show you that would describe a rated PG-13 + Narnia movie.. Seriously epic:
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I love everything about it.. The gruesomeness of the witch's army.. The sense of despair in battle... The dark, overcast sky. I think that I saw an interview where they considered that kind atmosphere in the LWW battle and even test CGIed the footage with a cloudy, dark sky but concluded that it would give the scene too dark a feel. Oh well
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