Well Caspian (Ben Barnes) did look good with some facial hair. I suppose Rilian could have a bit of beard if it suits him....I'm just thinking about the scene when he says goodbye to his dying father....I guess two beards are okay.
And seeing a snowy Glimfeather would rank up there with Reepicheep in Narnian characters most desired to see in CGI.
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StateofGreen, thanks for sharing that silver chair photo. I remember seeing that scene as a child and loving it, but it was rather terrifying. Now, I see there are some silly moments but for the most part that scene is still rather creepy. I think the mask adds to the mad feel.
Here's another photo from Alan Spalding's website:
It's amazing how good much of his production work looks. It's a pity that they used cheap film stock and most of it wasn't captured by the BBC cameras.
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I don't generally like beards, but I think a beard on Rillian could be good. And that could contribute to keeping the audience from realizing he's the same guy they saw at the beginning.
Hmm... Dream List:
Screenwriters: MUST be new.
Director: Andrew Adamson or someone new - NOT Micheal Apted or Tim Burton.
Puddleglum: Eh, no ideas here. Just NOT Johnny Depp.
LotGK: Natalie Dormer - she pulls off innocent-to-evil very well.
Rilian: Someone who's been in a couple decent movies/plays but is not famous.
Jill Pole: British unknown with a somewhat unusual regional accent. Welsh?
Composer: Harry Gregson-Williams
Costume Designer: Anyone besides Isis Mussenden is out of the question.
Budget: $200mil
Rating: PG, for sure.
Release Date: December 2012
Run Time: 2 hrs, 20 minutes
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As long as we are making wish lists, here is what I'm hoping for the film:
The film opens with a helicopter shot of Liliandil & Ramandu beaming down to Ramandu's Island for her wedding to Caspian. The cast of VDT could return for this film and there should be a bit with Caspian having wedding day jitters.
Then we can fast forward to Experiment House in England.
Once the children get to Narnia I hope they bring back several characters/extras from PC & VDT. If they put Tony Nixon in the make-up chair long enough, then I'm sure they can make him look 80. Drinian could also be back, but he should sail with Caspian. At Cair Paravel, I also want to see an elderly Peepikeek, and Mr. Bulgy Bear licking his paws after supper. Glenstorm's sons should be back and still relatively young-looking, along with our look-out faun from PC. Peter Dinklage is a must for Trumpkin. Ben Barnes should reprise his role as both the elder and reborn Caspian.
I'd also like to see a few new creatures in this movie. Perhaps a Sylph flying/frolicking in the falling snow during the snowball fight? An Ettin at the rock-throwing contest in Ettinsmoor?
Other than that I haven't thought too much about the film, but I just hope it stays true to the book. (Or at least truer to the book than VDT was.) With the exception of the rock-throwing contest, everything in this story moves the plot along, so there are no episodic excuses for the filmmakers this time. Also, the story of Rillian's disappearance need not be shown onscreen. The story can be told in a nutshell by the owls in just a couple of minutes of dialogue. No need for a flashback, nor a silver mask to hide anyone's face.
Most of all, this film should be a psychological thriller, -like a Hitchcock film. Lots of humor, so that the film doesn't get heavy-handed, but enough doubt and conspiracy in the film so that you are scared for the main characters and (later) fear for their sanity.
LWW was a Fantasy adventure. PC was a Political film. VDT was a Character epic. SC should be a psychological thriller!
I think this film could be made well on a $100 million - $150 million budget.
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Yes! A thriller! That could be really good.
I want to see a SC short after-credits scene of Jill at a fancy-dress ball wearing her Narnian dress.
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I was thinking about Rilian casting again and I thought...what about Hugh Dancy for Rilian? I think he could play younger than he is and he can do serious Hamlet-style brooding. He's had prince-playing experience before (Ella Enchanted). Though he may be expensive...but then they'd also have to make Ben Barnes look really old to make it contrast well at the end. My realistic practical choice is still Harry Lloyd though.
I was also thinking they could do with maybe $165 million budget but not use any money towards 3D conversion/filming. I think converting to/filming in 3D is a waste for these films and the money is better spent on the script, actors, good 2D special/visual effects, and marketing.
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Stateofgreen,
I like your pick for Rilian (Hugh Dancy)! Very much looks the part. Good spotting! I'm gonna throw my support to Hugh Dancy for Rilian.
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I LOVE the idea of SC as a psychological thriller. Even though I know what happens, I'd be on the edge of my seat!
So here's my dream production:
Director: Christopher Nolan (the Inception director's take on SC would be a thrill).
Composer: Harry Gregson-Williams. His music acts as a narrator, revealing the characters' thoughts and feelings.
Jill: I like Adeona's idea of an unknown Welsh girl.
Eustace: Will P dressed down to look as young as possible. Unfortunately, I don't think it'll be possible to sell him as anything less than mid-teens. This means that they're going to have to figure out the dynamics for him and Jill. They'll be much too old for the schoolyard "Girls rule!" "No! Boys rule!" bickering that goes on in the book.
LotGK: Natalie Dormer. She's got it all!
Puddleglum: Wil Johnson. He can be straight and glum, but he also has a comical edge that would work for lovable worry-wort Puddleglum. If not Wil Johnson, then Rowan Atkinson. He's played Blackadder and Johnny English, so he has all the skills for the part. We actually don't know how old Puddleglum is. We just know that he's too spry to be a very old man, and too "above" the kids to be a very young man. Anywhere between 25 and 55 will do, really.
Rilian: I know it won't happen, but I would love Orlando Bloom for the part. With a slight beard, please.
Old Caspian: Christopher Lee. He has the stateliness for the part.
Old Liliandil: Laura Brent. We don't know how fast star-people age. You doesn't have to look that much older.
Trumpkin: Peter Dinklage.
Though, now that I think about it, Hugh Dancy would be an excellent pick as well.
Orlando Bloom looks kind of like Ben Barnes, but Dancy looks more like he could be the child of Ben Barnes and Laura Brent:
I'm looking forward to the Great Snow Dance and all the underground scenes. I think this story has a lot of potential to be an awesome movie.
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Eustace: Will P dressed down to look as young as possible. Unfortunately, I don't think it'll be possible to sell him as anything less than mid-teens. This means that they're going to have to figure out the dynamics for him and Jill. They'll be much too old for the schoolyard "Girls rule!" "No! Boys rule!" bickering that goes on in the book.
If they get a move on it and do dress him down to look as young as possible I think they could still have the bullying stuff in there. Will P looks pretty young for his age. Though hopefully by the time they film it he won't look
older. If he stays at his current plateau of appearance for the next two years maybe it won't be so bad. I've seen some 20-somethings pass for 15 or 16.
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I've seen some 20-somthings pass for 15 or 16.
Yes, but, for boys especially, there is a huge difference between turning a 21-year-old into a 15-year-old, and turning and 18-year-old like Will P into a 12-year-old. I think he could be styled to pass for a 15-year-old, but that as low as they can get, even if they started filming tomorrow. The fact that he obviously shaves is, on its own, a tip off that he's no little kid.
If he looks like he's in his mid-teens Jill definitely should, too, because they're equals. Teen boys and girls don't relate to each other the way Jill and Eustace do, even when there's no romantic angle. I think the only way they can make that childish bickering work is if Jill and Eustace's parents are supposed to be friends, they've known each other since they were little, and each one thinks of the other as an annoying cousin or sibling.
Also, (slight change of subject), on the matter of Rilian's age, you mentioned that Hugh Dancy might have to actor younger. Actually, Rilian's supposed to be in his 30s when Jill and Eustace rescue him, so Dancy's just the right age.
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LotGK: Natalie Dormer. She's got it all!
Puddleglum: Wil Johnson. He can be straight and glum, but he also has a comical edge that would work for lovable worry-wort Puddleglum.....
Old Caspian: Christopher Lee. He has the stateliness for the part."
I don't know about Wil Johnson, he just doesn't fit my view of Puddleglum. Natalie Dormer would be perfect! I think its funny that you said Christopher Lee because he fought in World War II and had a pretty hard childhood, so he would really understand some aspects in Caspian.
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I've seen some 20-somthings pass for 15 or 16.
Yes, but, for boys especially, there is a huge difference between turning a 21-year-old into a 15-year-old, and turning and 18-year-old like Will P into a 12-year-old. I think he could be styled to pass for a 15-year-old, but that as low as they can get, even if they started filming tomorrow. The fact that he obviously shaves is, on its own, a tip off that he's no little kid. ....
Also, (slight change of subject), on the matter of Rilian's age, you mentioned that Hugh Dancy might have to actor younger. Actually, Rilian's supposed to be in his 30s when Jill and Eustace rescue him, so Dancy's just the right age.
Yes I admit you're right about how implausible it would be to pass an 18-year old off as a 12-year old. He does look strikingly different than when he filmed VDT a year ago.
Still if they didn't have 12-year old bullying, there's still 18-year old type bullying that they could depict.
Oh...and I did realize after posting that yeah, Hugh Dancy IS in the right age range for Rilian.
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Still if they didn't have 12-year old bullying, there's still 18-year old type bullying that they could depict.
I'm not sure what you mean by "bullying." I didn't feel that Jill and Eustace were bullying each other. They bicker a lot, and the type of bickering is childish in nature. Among older children, that sort of back and forth only works if there's some sort of tension. Like with Shasta and Aravis, whom I've always pictured as teenagers, they have classist tension. Jill and Eustace don't have that. Are you proposing sexual tension as a dynamic for them? Not sure how I feel about that.
Oh, and I know WP shaves because it's obvious in his pictures.
At least, that's the story I'm sticking to.