Wait, which scene....?

Amat could you please explain where you saw this scene?
I'm afraid people aren't going to understand which scene from either one of the movies you are talking about.

I'm guessing this is the scene in PC where Dr Cornelius suggests to Caspian that he could be the Telmarine who unites/frees Narnia?

I loved that scene!!! It was a very touching scene and definitely a defining moment for Caspian.

coracle: yes I agree. The scene after Peter and Caspian fight and Dr Cornelius and Caspian are talking and Dr Cornelius tells Caspian he could be "the most noble contradiction. Imagine, the Telmarine that saved Narnia".

I did like that scene, but it kinda made Peter look to much like the bad guy. Like, ooh poor Caspian he's getting picked on b/c he's a Telmarine, instead we should be scolding him for not having more respect for the High King. Of course, Peter should have had a scolding too for his pride and etc.

Peter had a similar scene. Remeber when he asked Lucy why she thought he didn't see Aslan. Caspian and Peter both had the defining/ touching moments after their fight. I liked that. It showed what they were thinking. To me it kind of explained why they acted the way they did.

Yes I think it's one of the only few scenes that I loved in PC. I really loved how Caspian and Cornelius bonded in this movie. I actually think that they were the only characters that truly bonded. They seemed more natural together then Caspian/peter, Caspian/Susan, Caspian/Miraz, etc. That scene was very beautiful and wished they had a bond like this towards the very beginning of the movie. But oh well.

I think that scene was awesome! every time I see it and he says "You have the chance to become the most noble contradiction in history. the Telmarine who saved Narnia." I get a tingle up my spine

DamselJP I thought they were well bonded at the beginning.
When Cornelius goes to save Caspian, it's not just because it's his duty or the right thing to do. We can see an ongoing joke between them that Caspian always wants "five minutes" more in bed, and in the scene where Miraz has Cornelius arrested, it is obvious that this dear man has spent years risking his life teaching Caspian the truth about Narnia.
It's during the events of this film that he tells him some things he has kept from "the boy" because it's now time he knew and responded to them. But I do think they have always had that bond.

I've always dreaded that scene. I think it is because of Dr. Cornelius' wishy-washy answer to why he never told Caspian that Miraz killed his father. Also, the "Noble Contradiction" part feels like it should be profound, but it always falls flat for me.

I like the adjoining Peter/Lucy scene much better. "Maybe we're the ones who need to prove ourselves to him," is much more inspiring than "You have the chance to become the most noble contradiction in history."

DamselJP I thought they were well bonded at the beginning.
When Cornelius goes to save Caspian, it's not just because it's his duty or the right thing to do. We can see an ongoing joke between them that Caspian always wants "five minutes" more in bed, and in the scene where Miraz has Cornelius arrested, it is obvious that this dear man has spent years risking his life teaching Caspian the truth about Narnia.
It's during the events of this film that he tells him some things he has kept from "the boy" because it's now time he knew and responded to them. But I do think they have always had that bond.

Okay while these are good points Coracle I would have rather seen a scene of them bonding as his professor instead of opening up with a screaming mother that sounds like road kill giving birth to a baby. They should have concentrated on going down to Caspian and Cornelius looking at the stars and then have them walk off then pan to the birth of Caspian's cousin. It would of made sense if we the audience was introduced to the hero first and his tutor.

It wasn't really a bad scene it just could have been better. It's at a point in the movie where everyone needs a little encouraging, especially egotistical princes and kings, and each turns to the most faithful person they know. The scene is great for the movie, truly a defining moment, and I think I like it overall.
However... "noble contradiction" is not the words of encouragement I would have chosen. Something about Aslan would have been nice, how he planned it all, made it exactly how he wanted it, but even now Caspian had the choice to face Aslan or to turn his back and never look to Narnia again.

I've always dreaded that scene. I think it is because of Dr. Cornelius' wishy-washy answer to why he never told Caspian that Miraz killed his father. Also, the "Noble Contradiction" part feels like it should be profound, but it always falls flat for me.

I won't say that I've dreaded that scene but I know what you mean. The "everything I told, everything I didn't" line just doesn't seem right. (I can't remember how the line ends and it is driving me nuts ). I think they could have come up with something a little better but "noble contradiction" does have a nice sound to it.

I like the adjoining Peter/Lucy scene much better. "Maybe we're the ones who need to prove ourselves to him," is much more inspiring than "You have the chance to become the most noble contradiction in history."

That line has always seemed kind of odd to me. I suppose I'm not sure what she means by "proving ourselves to him." If it means having faith in Aslan, than that is okay but it makes me think of having to do some task to prove one's self which would be the wrong kind of message.

I like the adjoining Peter/Lucy scene much better. "Maybe we're the ones who need to prove ourselves to him," is much more inspiring than "You have the chance to become the most noble contradiction in history."

ditto. For some reason, I failed to connect with Caspian in the movie. And I wouldn't have connected with Peter either except that I still thought of him as the young warrior in LWW instead of an immature "king". So I think being able to connect with the characters determined my perception of their scenes.