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I wonder if it's just me, but I really missed Aslan's roar at the closing take of VoDT. In LWW and PC we had the roar following the Pevensies out on their lives, and giving a wistful impact, reminding us that Narnia exists, breathes and is waiting.
I know that this ending was more final, all of the Pevensies never to return, and hence it would be a more stoic, silent and still ending, but there is still Eustace, and I felt the ending was somehow incomplete without that final breath from Narnia. It could have been done as stoic and sad as well, if the roar was there. By the way, the ship sailing away was the perfect heartbreaking touch.
What do you think?
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Some discussion on the missing roar can be read in the Return to Cambridge thread.
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I was fine with it being roarless...the painting was reverently placed back on the wall and the door closed....now if they possibly added the roar on after showing some of the end credits to fool the audience into not leaving I think that would have been a nice touch, maybe with the DT sailing away into the horizon as you say.
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well, I kind of wish it was there, but I didn't feel that it ruined the movie for it not to be there!
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stateofgreen, I see... I hope they let me keep the thread since it's dedicated solely to the magnificence of ending roar. By the way, I believe the ending of LWW, with the roar blowing through the creaking door of the Wardrobe along with snow, is one of the very most epic and soul-searing endings of all times! Oh, I liked the closing of the door, meaningful almost in The Godfather style (the most epic door closing ever, heh), the painting put reverently back on the wall as you say. When Eustace was holding it, I for a moment was thinking if he would give it to the Pevensies, but I liked that it was placed back, instead of being a gift of peace treaty between cousins.
Liberty HoffmanBah, I never said it ruined the movie! I just thought I sort of missed it, when I saw the film the first time, I found myself waiting, as they began exiting from the room, for the roar to come and reassure us Narnia still breathes on the other side of the painting, to put it in the spirit of words that sometimes fills me
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As somebody who thought the roars at the end of LWW and PC were cheesy and uncalled for, I was pleased that they didn't do it for VDT.
I like this ending without the roar. This ending was more sad than the other two and without it...since we know the Pevensies won't be back in the next one, for me, not having the roar had more of an absolute feel to the ending
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I really missed the roar. I feel that it made the ending of this movie feel more real however, which leads me to believe that they're still considering not making SC.
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You know what I did realize though? There's no roar, but when Lucy looks back at the painting at the end the water moves... I guess they at least came close
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It didn't fit with the flow of the sound in the scene. In LWW and PC, the final scenes of the movie featured the very beginning of two pop songs. Over the final moments of the movie, the intensity of the songs heightened and climaxed right as the movie ended by moving into the chorus, at which point the credits started. It made sense to have a roar there.
With VDT, there was a calm, almost sad soundtrack piece playing as the Pevensies & Scrubb left the room. The pop song for the credits didn't begin until the credits started rolling. Having a roar there would have disrupted the sort of "winding down" mood that the audio was creating.
That's a good point Mino, I think you're right actually... It may have been too much of a conflict, so instead they opted to have the water in the painting move one last time, which created the same effect, but worked better with a softer sound.
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Yes I thought the water in the painting was better than the roar because the roar was just meant for the first movie because they expearenced Aslan more in the first one than any other stories. The roar was more significant in LWW because he roared when he made the deal final with the witch. And when he stood on the rock.(Which was a triumphant roar I thought) They had more adventures with him in LWW whereas in VDT it was more about the ship and the ocean.
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Aslan is pretty central to the series so I did miss the roar the end of the movie. Aslan is in all seven books and the only character to do so, so I feel it is fitting to have Aslan roaring at the end of the movie to sort of signify that it is not the end. Having said that, it didn't really fit with the movie I guess. I can't quite remember but did Aslan roar during the movie at all?
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They originally planned on making just a Narnia trilogy. This goes back quite a few years, but they just wanted to make up to VDT. It's now apparent that it probably isn't still the case, but if they are still considering it, the quiet, reverant re-hanging of the painting would be a much more respectable closing to the (half) series, than would Aslan's roar.
I'll admit that I missed the roar quite a bit, but I think that the endin is all the more solemn without it.
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Trufflehunter, where exactly did you hear that they were only planning on making a trilogy? I don't ever recall hearing anything like that. In fact, I seem to recall the people at Walden repeatedly saying, even from the beginning, that they really wanted to make all seven.
As for the missing roar, I didn't mind it. I was never a huge fan of the roar at the end of the first two films; it always felt a bit tacked on to me. The ending of VDT was much more satisfying emotionally, imo.
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I'm glad they didn't use the roar for VDT. It would've been like "everyone sadly looks back in silence at the painting, and then walk away solemnly... ROAR!" That would've destroyed the quiet sadness of the ending, unlike in the other two movies, where the roar helped end the story. Emotional scenes sometimes need to stay quiet so that it'll be more emotional, but if you aruptly put something out of place in there, you might as well have lost the purpose of the scene. So yeah, I think for the reasons people put above, it wasn't bad that the roar wasn't there. The painting helped finish it off instead.