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daughter of the King
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Maybe the Dawn Treader wasn't in the painting until that day?

That almost makes sense because the ship sails away from view at the end of the movie. However.....does the dialogue go something like this?

Edmund: Lucy, have you seen this ship before?
Lucy: Yes, it's very Narnian looking isn't it?

If I remembered that scene correctly, it sounds like Edmund didn't notice the ship before, but Lucy had. But it still shouldn't have taken Edmund that long to notice that the ship was there.

Another thing that bugged me was Susan being in America. It's explained in the book but not in the movie. Why are their parents there? Why did they take Susan with them? Where in the world is Peter?

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Posted : January 19, 2011 7:14 am
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I was really annoyed by the entire subplot with Edmund and the sea serpent. I don't understand how a ruler of a land with centaurs, fauns, and talking animals could make fun of the idea of sea serpents. Furthermore, it's noted at least twice (once in the beginning of PC and then again in VDT--I can't remember where) that Edmund was the one who knew something about magic, even more than the other three Pevensies. Of all the characters in the story, it seems like Edmund would be the last one to doubt, much less make fun of, the idea of the existence of sea serpents. Also, throughout VDT, Lewis notes that a lot of problems were solved because Lucy and Edmund had read "the right kinds of books". They knew about dragons because of that, while Eustace, who only read books of information, didn't.

So though it's a really small issue, I still think it's dreadfully silly that Edmund would make fun of Drinian for that. It was just silly.

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Posted : January 19, 2011 2:53 pm
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It also bothered me that they didn't say that only a girl could break the spell. They point out that both Lucy and Gael are female, but they don't say why they need a female.

That really bothered me too

Another things that bothered me was that Caspian went with Lucy, Edmund, Eustace and Reepicheep to the worlds end. In the book I really liked the part when Caspian wants to go and everyone says he can not (or shall not :p ) go and Caspian gets all angry and then Aslan tells him he shouldn't go. I was sot of dissapointed that none of that was in the movie

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Posted : January 20, 2011 7:55 am
Conina
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Not showing the dufflepods paddling around the Dawn Treader on their monopods and waving goodbye. I was looking forward to that scene and they left it out.

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Posted : January 21, 2011 12:25 pm
Narnian Heart
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Not showing the dufflepods paddling around the Dawn Treader on their monopods and waving goodbye. I was looking forward to that scene and they left it out.

It's cutting scenes like this from the movie that really are a shame to the visual art of the film. It adds another layer of richness to the fantasy world of the stories. I can also imagine quite a few children really enjoying it if they had expounded upon some of the sillier aspects of the dufflepuds. As is, the entire scene felt joyless because of the rush.

Another similar disappointment was the handling of Ramandu's Island. The set didn't look too bad, but the scene was still missing a visual depth. I really missed Ramandu and his daughter singing and the birds. I'm not sure how it would have worked in he confines of he film, but it seems like a great touch that adds to the wonder and otherworldiness of the utter east. The scene was just so shallow and pointless in the film and I deeply missed the mysteriousness of the scene in the book.

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Posted : January 21, 2011 12:41 pm
Conina
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Narnian Heart, that's a good way of explaining what's missing. "Depth and mystery." Here is a quote from the book in reference to Ramandu's Island "And as Edmund said afterward, “Though lots of things happened on that trip which sound more exciting, that moment was really the most exciting...." I think children (and grownups) could have enjoyed some of the aspects of both the Dufflepods and Ramandu's Island even though they aren't typical blockbuster fair.

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Posted : January 22, 2011 8:31 am
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- Edmund being told they are "in Narnia" shortly before climbing on board the Dawn Treader. They aren't in Narnia. They are many miles east of Narnia.

- Caspian calling Edmund "High King."

I was really annoyed by the entire subplot with Edmund and the sea serpent. I don't understand how a ruler of a land with centaurs, fauns, and talking animals could make fun of the idea of sea serpents.

On one hand, I totally agree. And I think it ruined that scene. Despite Drinian's annoyingly cheesy accent, I think the film was doing a decent job at creating a sense of anticipation and mystery about what the crew was going to find in these unknown waters. Edmund's reaction killed the moment.

On the other hand... Well, I guess in the movie Edmund turned out to be right? In the movie, there is no reason to believe that sea serpents actually exist. The sea serpent at the end was just a projection of Edmund's subconscious (to borrow Inception terminology ;) ) . It only appeared because Edmund imagined it.


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Posted : January 22, 2011 8:36 am
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Gael kind of annoyed me because she wasn't it the book and because of her rinces whole reason for being on the DT was changed his whole character was changed. i think it was a silly last minute add in and i didn't like it

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Posted : January 22, 2011 12:45 pm
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I wasn't a fan of how the Sea Serpant appeared because Edmund just thought of it. I always thought Dark Island brought up your deepest fears, not whatever you happened to be thinging about. Or does it bring up your deepest fears only if you think about it while on DI? :-
Anyways, since when was sea serpants Ed's greatest fear?


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Posted : January 22, 2011 1:45 pm
stateofgreen
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Also if Dark Island brought into existence only Ed's fear why didn't it bring up the fears of everyone else on board? :- Or is there a limit to the number of fears that can be introduced per visit in the Dark Island waters.... ;)


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Posted : January 22, 2011 3:22 pm
Liberty Hoffman
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this didn't bother me, but I'm surprised that no one said anything about this before.
in the beginning of the movie, the room floods and the Pevensies and Eustace get into Narnia. they come up to see the ship bearing down on them. then Lucy screams at them to swim. then she herself can't get away. in the book, Lucy was the best swimmer. in the movie, Caspian grabs her just as she's drowning. :P I watched this bit carefully when I saw it again and I noticed that Edmund, and even Eustace, are getting farther away from the ship than Lucy and she goes under just before Caspian gets her.

like I said, it didn't bother me.....
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Posted : January 23, 2011 7:04 am
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Of course they would choose to show the female character being the weakest swimmer and needing to be rescued. /:) 8-| So very tiresomely predictable.

Posted : January 23, 2011 1:58 pm
stateofgreen
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My observation is I don't think they showed her as the weakest because she was actually yelling at Eustace to swim during that scene. I thought she kept her head and didn't panic just like the book, but the script still had to have her rescued by Caspian, because what audience female wouldn't like to be rescued by Ben Barnes. ;)


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Posted : January 23, 2011 3:25 pm
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with that part when I first heard it I heard "swim Peter swim" and I re saw the movie just to listen to that part and caught the Eustace- but it sounds alot like Peter to me for some reason...

Back on topic- ya I wished they wouldve shown her as a bit of a better swimmer- get some girl power- though Georgie shows alot of girl power in this movie! (thumbs up smilie wont work but add it in here)

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Posted : January 23, 2011 4:26 pm
waterkid72
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The lack of appeareance of Ramandu bothered me to some extent. Why was he left out? Makes no sense. Also, why did they left Caspian's and Liliandil's romance? That couple is canon; and Rillian is their son. So if SC is going to be made, why left such an important couple out of the story?

One aspect that also bothered me a bit was Eustace refering to his parents as "father" and "mother". In the book he refers to them by their own petition as Alberta and Harold. It was an insignificant detail, but I felt it would have been nice if it had been added. I'm really not that nitpicky with the film, though.

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Posted : January 24, 2011 7:38 am
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