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coracle
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That sounds good, except I've never liked the scissors bit. Eustace must be a real pansy if he's scared of scissors. It's too lame for words.

Scissors are okay, but if you've had a nightmare about giant ones you might feel differently about them!

There, shining in the sunrise, larger than they had seen him before, shaking his mane (for it had apparently grown again) stood Aslan himself.
"...when a willing victim who had committed no treachery was killed in a traitor's stead, the Table would crack and Death itself would start working backwards."

Posted : October 9, 2009 10:08 am
malkah
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This is one scene I really don't think needs a lot of expansion/adapting. The concept is already somewhat different from fantasy cliches and has the potential to be a very powerful sequence. Lewis wrote it in a way that leaves you to figure out the implications of the Dark Island rather than be beat over the head with them. You're forced to revisit your own nightmares and realize that they are coming true. That's why the scene is so terrifying! :-o

I like the idea of sound effects (definitely much more than actual nightmares ;) ), but too much of those could turn cheesy as well. Less is much more here; as I already said, I think the key to this scene is accessing the audience's dreams, not merely watching Lucy's or Eustace's.

Actually, this is something that I may be alone in ;) , but I would prefer the ending from the old 1970s American editions of the CoN.
For anyone who may not be familiar with the edition, here's the differences:

British edition (now the standard edition)

...warm, blue world again. And all at once everybody realized that there was nothing to be afraid of and never had been. They blinked their eyes and looked about them. ...And then first one, and then another, began laughing.
“I reckon we’ve made pretty good fools of ourselves,” said Rynelf...
“Never to bring me back there,” he said. He pointed astern. They all looked. But they saw only bright blue sea and bright blue sky. The Dark Island and the darkness had vanished for ever.
“Why!” cried Lord Rhoop. “You have destroyed it!”
“I don’t think it was us,” said Lucy...
So all afternoon with great joy they sailed south-east with a fair wind. But nobody noticed when the albatross had disappeared.

Older American edition

...warm, blue world again. And just as there are moments when simply to lie in bed and see the daylight pouring through your window and to hear the cheerful voice of an early postman or milkman down below and to realise that it was only a dream: it wasn’t real, is so heavenly that it was very nearly worth having the nightmare in order to have the joy of waking, so they all felt when they came out of the dark...
“Never to ask me, nor to let any other ask me, what I have seen during my years on the Dark Island.”
“An easy boon, my Lord,” answered Caspian, and added with a shudder. “Ask you: I should think not. I would give all my treasure not to hear it.”...So all afternoon with great joy they sailed south-east with a fair wind, and the hump of darkness grew smaller and smaller astern. But nobody noticed when the albatross had disappeared.

Which version do you think would make a more powerful ending in the movie? :)

Sorry for the length of the post!

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Posted : October 10, 2009 11:29 am
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They're both good, but I like the standard one best. They both capture the feel of what happens when you wake up from a nightmare and realize it wasn't real. But I like the ending of the standard one where Rhoop looks back and realizes it's not there anymore. He doesn't have to relive his nightmares ever again. And it shows more of the power of Aslan.

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Posted : October 14, 2009 11:00 am
coracle
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I am not very familiar with the american version, but I think it would be nice for someone to verbalise their feeling in similar words to those, after the Dark Island disappears.

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There, shining in the sunrise, larger than they had seen him before, shaking his mane (for it had apparently grown again) stood Aslan himself.
"...when a willing victim who had committed no treachery was killed in a traitor's stead, the Table would crack and Death itself would start working backwards."

Posted : October 14, 2009 8:58 pm
AslanIsKing
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I really like what the earlier person said about "This is one scene I really don't think needs a lot of expansion/adapting. The concept is already somewhat different from fantasy cliches and has the potential to be a very powerful sequence"

Long story short there is this movie called Grizzly Man, its a true story about a man who lived with bears in alaska and recorded it all with his camera. so he ends up being eaten alive by a bear while his camera is on! BUT oddly enough the lens cap was covering the camera so only sound was recorded, Now here is where it gets interesting, the dircetor of the movie NEVER plays it, we only see him hearing it, becuase he knows that by not playing it, our imagination would produce a far worse noise than we can imagine!!this is a concept that the filmmakers MUST do, NO dumb POTC stuff indeed, this is Lewis we are talking about here, this scene is NOT a spectacle but cerebral in its frightful nature

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Posted : October 19, 2009 4:05 pm
ALittleMoreSonic
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I LOVE the scene and it should definitely go in the movie mostly intact. And I agree with the people who say that it should be pure psychological terror rather than anything physical. We've seen how lame "nightmares" get when they're portrayed onscreen (original series of Star Trek, episode "And the Children Shall Lead" anyone?). This should be completely invisible, but completely terrifying.

Posted : October 19, 2009 4:57 pm
Glenstorm the Great
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I want it to be mostly like the book but way scarier- not too too scary but still scary.

Posted : October 21, 2009 11:02 am
Eustace
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I think even if they did it just like the book it would be scarier then the book. It is one thing to read about scary things and another to see them happen. I chose follow the book.

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Posted : October 23, 2009 1:11 am
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I think less is more. Sometims in scary scenes it's scarier when you just hear the scary thing or catch glimpses of it rather than get a full on view of it rushing towards you. I also agree that they should keep Lucy's line 'oh Aslan if you ever loved us...' and Alslan's 'Courage dear heart'

Posted : November 3, 2009 10:35 am
narnia fan 7
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I think It needs to be like the book I think it would be for the best for the Film.

Posted : March 26, 2010 2:06 pm
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I hope they keep it similar to the book, it had just enough scary-ness to keep you reading but not so much that it chased you away. It was definitly one of the better parts of the book. It also had a good lesson embedded within it.

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Posted : March 28, 2010 11:22 am
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