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Sir Jack
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on twitter someone called snacky tweeted:
"In important Narnia movie news: Ben Barnes says Caspian & the Telmarines will not have pseudo-spanish accents in VDT. Discuss."

I can't really believe they'd do something like that, because it would just be too weird.. but who knows?

Has anybody heard anything about that?

Topic starter Posted : May 18, 2010 5:54 am
GlimGlum
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Nothing official has been said far. But I just have a feeling this will turn out to be the case. Hopefully when the trailer is released or the VBS clips come out there will be enough evidence to verify this.

Edit: My original post was in Rumors but now we know it will be for real and as long as they are consistent from here on out, I will have no problem with that. :)

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Posted : May 18, 2010 7:42 am
bkey
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Looks like it's true. "Snacky" sent me the link to the magazine article where Barnes mentions it. You can see it here: http://benbarnesfan.com/gallery/display ... fullsize=1

Posted : May 18, 2010 8:09 am
icarus
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Oh. Hmph. That's disappointing. :( Though i know there are a fair few people who would be mightily pleased by that. But still :(

I said it before in a previous topic, but i really felt the addition of the accent was a wonderful idea, and that it really helped to add a lot of depth and subtext to the movie. Granted the execution was perhaps not flawless, but i still think that the negatives were far outweighed by the positives.

I would of loved to have seen them keep the accent for VDT, i think they could of really developed the idea, and used it to create some interesting character dynamics between the newly united Narnian/Telmarine crew of the ship.

That said, i can really see the logic in what Ben Barnes is saying there about it being a quintessentially English story. In the overall context of the book as a standalone work, the accent perhaps might have seemed somewhat out of place.

Disappointing overall, but i'll get over it quite easily.

Also, its not like they are ditching the entire concept of the Telmarine culture. The vast majority of the ships crew still conform to the Telmarine ethnicity established in the last film, with many of them being played by actors of Mediterranean origin (such as Mirko Grillini), and several parts (such as Rynelf) being specifically cast as Mediterranean characters (the role of Rynelf was originally listed on casting call sheets as "Mediterranean Man").

Posted : May 18, 2010 8:13 am
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Yeah I read that last night on Ben Barnes Fan. :((

I was growing on the accent. Oh well, whatever the crew think is best, I just think we are going to lose diversity in accents now. Narnia will become the new Harry Potter now. 8-|


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Posted : May 18, 2010 8:52 am
narnian1
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I didn't dislike the accents in PC, but also wasn't overly fond of them. Give or take I was fine. However losing them for VDT might just be distracting. I hope it's for the best. Will have to wait and see until I see at least the trailers.

*keeping positive*

Posted : May 18, 2010 8:52 am
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I think they should keep a slight accent, showing that the Telmarines are becoming Narnian. Or even have Caspian slip up and speak in the accent before correcting himself. There needs to be a reason for the change.


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Posted : May 18, 2010 8:59 am
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Continuity overboard!

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Posted : May 18, 2010 9:03 am
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I think they should keep a slight accent, showing that the Telmarines are becoming Narnian. Or even have Caspian slip up and speak in the accent before correcting himself. There needs to be a reason for the change.

Exactly! This is one thing Hollywood seems to forget now is why they change things for a reason. I too hope they have a reason for it in the movie or else it'll fall flat. I can get over this, but I can't judge it as of yet until I see this movie.

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Posted : May 18, 2010 9:08 am
Lucy P.
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From Ben Barnes' interview: "We decided that Caspian and the Telmarines will no longer have European accents, as they felt CS Lewis is a quintessentially an English writer."

Whatever your views on how well the accent fit in at first, you've got to admit that at least they have the best interests at heart: keeping closer to was C.S. Lewis would have wanted.

I take this as a good sign.


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Posted : May 18, 2010 9:17 am
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Lucy P.: Will they give the same statement after they've decided that the Calormenes in the movies will be depicted as typically english ;) ?

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Posted : May 18, 2010 9:29 am
Liberty Hoffman
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Continuity overboard!

ditto! though I think it already went overboard when MLG came in..... :p

I have mixed feelings about this. on one hand, this could be really good.
on the other hand, I wonder how everyone's going to react to this - the non-Narnia freaks. will they even know if it's the same guy (Caspian)? he looks different and now he won't have the accent. hmmm.....
But maybe it will be alright and we won't notice - too much. ;)


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Posted : May 18, 2010 9:31 am
DamselJillPole
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Lucy P. the thing with the Telmarines is that they are not British, they are not related to the first king and queen of Narnia aka future Archenlanders. I don't see as to why since CS Lewis is an english writer why these people can't stick with diversity and different cultures like that shown in PC.

If they are going to change the accents then I hope they have a reason in the movie for it instead of bluntly without knowing why.


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Posted : May 18, 2010 9:35 am
Eustace
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From Ben Barnes' interview: "We decided that Caspian and the Telmarines will no longer have European accents, as they felt CS Lewis is a quintessentially an English writer."

Whatever your views on how well the accent fit in at first, you've got to admit that at least they have the best interests at heart: keeping closer to was C.S. Lewis would have wanted.

I take this as a good sign.

The only problem with following what they think Lewis wanted is simply that, they think he wanted this and that, but he may have wanted something different. I am not saying that he wanted the accents, I am simply saying we can totally sure that them trying to have the best interests at heart will actually cause them to follow what Lewis wanted. They might decide that Lewis wanted LTGK in VDT. (I know this isn't going to happen, but I am just using it as an example to show my point that they might not always know what Lewis wanted. But we can still hope for the best.)

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Posted : May 18, 2010 9:37 am
Lucy P.
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Lucy P.: Will they give the same statement after they've decided that the Calormenes in the movies will be depicted as typically english ;) ?

Though C.S. Lewis was English, he quite obviously gave the Calormenes another culture. It's a different story for the Telmarines, whose history is unclear.
I do think the Spanish-inspired culture made sense, but an English accent would have been just as plausible as Inigo Montoya's. All we know is that the pirates came from earth, not from which country they came.

All told, I don't care overmuch about the accent. I'm just glad they're being careful about sticking to the book.

Who knows? Maybe Drinian just couldn't roll his R's and so they decided to switch back.


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Posted : May 18, 2010 9:40 am
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