He didn't say that the LOTGK was kidnapping souls, all he said was that she was kidnapping people so she could attack Narnia, which is in the book!
Yeah, but he's linking it to the events in VDT, which says absolutely nothing about kidnapping gnomes for an underground army. I just don't see that strong of a connection between what Apted has going on in VDT, and what happens in TSC (the book).
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Since Apted wont be directing SC, shouldn't he leave all SC things up to the new director? I mean, if he introduces something about the Silver Chair, what if it contradicts the new director's vision?
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Well, there's a fairly good possibility that Apted would direct The Silver Chair.
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Perhaps that's his plan, leave so many loose ends in VDT that they will have to have him direct SC. Or not.
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Dinode, you do realise Apted didn't write the script, don't you?
I really don't get some attacks on Apted. And I'm not talking about you Dinode, just in general. It's only natural that he's trying to justify the script he was given to direct. But he has no connection with its production, unless I'm mistaken.
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Its interesting that none of the reviews of VDT from the pre-screenings have mentioned anything at all about any references or allusions to The Silver Chair being present in this movie, so i can only assume that the references are very slight (having been watered down considerably since the days of "The Leaked Script") such as the mist being green in color, or that they are only general thematic similarities about "stealing souls" and such, or that the references will only become apparent in retrospect after they release The Silver Chair, and thus that they have therefore already have made solid decisions about plot elements which will feature in The Silver Chair.
Not necessarily true. There is a brief mention of a Silver Chair character at the end of the film version of VDT. I alluded to this in my comments elsewhere on the forum.
In a more abstract sense, one can tell during the film that they are setting up the franchise to continue with SC. Now, that should be exciting for Narnia fans, but I'm afraid the sentiment has been lost in the haste to complain about - well, everything.
Interestingly, if there was no mention or allusion to some evil force in VDT (the film)--when it clearly serves as a major plot point in SC--the audience will wonder where the evil came from/why it wasn't shown in VDT. I can already see the movie reviews: "The Narnia franchise is inconsistent, too many plot holes, blah blah blah." So, you can do the exposition in SC, or drop hints in VDT - and Fox/Walden have absolutely chosen the latter.
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Dinode, you do realise Apted didn't write the script, don't you?
I really don't get some attacks on Apted. And I'm not talking about you Dinode, just in general. It's only natural that he's trying to justify the script he was given to direct. But he has no connection with its production, unless I'm mistaken.
According to your profile, you should be old enough to know this simple truth: some people aren't happy unless they are unhappy about something.
Its interesting that none of the reviews of VDT from the pre-screenings have mentioned anything at all about any references or allusions to The Silver Chair being present in this movie
Not necessarily true. There is a brief mention of a Silver Chair character at the end of the film version of VDT. I alluded to this in my comments elsewhere on the forum.
True. I did read that. However, assuming the character you are refering to is the same character i heard was referenced at the end of the movie, then i think its fair to say that the inclusion of that reference doesn't really explain Apted's comment, as he was seemingly referring to direct elements related to the witches and the LOTGK, rather than anything occurring in the real world.
Dinode, you do realise Apted didn't write the script, don't you?
I really don't get some attacks on Apted. And I'm not talking about you Dinode, just in general. It's only natural that he's trying to justify the script he was given to direct. But he has no connection with its production, unless I'm mistaken.
I know, it was meant to be kind of a joke. Sorry about that.
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Dinode, you do realise Apted didn't write the script, don't you?
I really don't get some attacks on Apted. And I'm not talking about you Dinode, just in general. It's only natural that he's trying to justify the script he was given to direct. But he has no connection with its production, unless I'm mistaken.According to your profile, you should be old enough to know this simple truth: some people aren't happy unless they are unhappy about something.
Haha I guess so spartan5. But my problem is that the complaints are really unfounded. Apted is not responsible for the deviations from the novel. He's responsible of the performances, camera angles, handling of SFX etc. And the distinction is so obvious IMO. >_<
Perhaps people on here are used to blaming Adamson who was director/screenwriter
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I actually like Adamson's directing style better. Regardless of the changes, I think he was better with cinematography.
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Interestingly, if there was no mention or allusion to some evil force in VDT (the film)--when it clearly serves as a major plot point in SC--the audience will wonder where the evil came from/why it wasn't shown in VDT. I can already see the movie reviews: "The Narnia franchise is inconsistent, too many plot holes, blah blah blah." So, you can do the exposition in SC, or drop hints in VDT - and Fox/Walden have absolutely chosen the latter.
*sighs*
You're probably right. I think that's kind of sad, because I always found it creepy in The Silver Chair and The Last Battle how there were these evil plots going on and we had no idea.
Do you think they would pull something where the white witch is a, forgive me here, but a sidekick/puppet master behind the LotGK? I mean, this would be absolutely terrible, but would this make sense of the "witches building up an army?"
Not for VDT...we have confirmation that her role isn't big...
As for SC...well it's just to early to say.
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Interestingly, if there was no mention or allusion to some evil force in VDT (the film)--when it clearly serves as a major plot point in SC--the audience will wonder where the evil came from/why it wasn't shown in VDT. I can already see the movie reviews: "The Narnia franchise is inconsistent, too many plot holes, blah blah blah." So, you can do the exposition in SC, or drop hints in VDT - and Fox/Walden have absolutely chosen the latter.
*sighs*
You're probably right. I think that's kind of sad, because I always found it creepy in The Silver Chair and The Last Battle how there were these evil plots going on and we had no idea.
In a sense, yes, but taking the Narnia series as a whole, we should have anticipated evil plots from beginning to end, many of them relating to earlier circumstances.
Magician's Nephew and LWW are interconnected in that the Pevensies come to dethrone a tyrant, and to set right the evil introduced into Narnia, right at its beginning, in Magician's Nephew. That was Jadis. By PC, the Pevensies are recalled to Narnia to get rid of a human tyrant, Miraz, and to restore Narnia under its rightful king, Caspian X. Why was it Susan's horn which summoned them, and not some other artifact, like those Magician's Nephew rings?
Then we have VDT, the present film, a mission to find the seven lords banished by Miraz, thus undoing Miraz' evil and culminating in Lord Rhoop's being rescued from Nightmare/Dark Island and DT's arrival at Aslan's table. SC follows on from VDT in a definite quest to find a missing prince who is needed by his dying father, and here there is a definite evil plot, though I am a bit hazy about what it was precisely. I'd like to know who that SC character is that was mentioned at the end of VDT, even if you put it in spoilers.
Maybe Apted is a bit hazy himself about SC at this point in time. Exactly why, other than some dastardly plot, would LOTGK want Rilian at all, even under her thumb, as well as a gnome army? (Not a home army I note. That could have been arranged by Rilian, himself, in due time as the rightful heir to the throne.) But how does this evil plot relate to VDT, where we first meet Caspian's Queen? And why do Jill, Eustace and Puddleglum barely arrive in the nick of time to prevent its execution?
There was another evil plot where Rabadash, under the guise of Susan's jilted lover, besieges Anvard in an effort to get entry to Narnia, and final domination over that country. Domination over Narnia was probably Rabadash's original intention when he decided to court Susan, a Queen in her own right, to make her his consort, his Tisroc-a/Tisroc-ina if there is such a person. Much as Rilian is being brought under LOTGK's tutelage, in her own effort to take over Narnia in SC.
Since Rabadash's siege of Anvard, and subsequent spell as a donkey will be remembered in Calormen, there should be no surprises that later on, there will also be a subsequent, more successful evil plot, under Rishda Tarkaan, which destroys Narnia once and for all, along with Rishda, himself. So if the filming of Silver Chair is being discussed at all, it is most likely in finding the plot, especially the evil, dastardly plot associated with it.