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[Closed] Prince Caspian: 3 years later... Review it again.

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Eriol
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Parts of it were pretty good, but that thing they did between Caspian and Peter and the whole invasion of the castle and the sexual undercurrent between Susan and Caspian, I just can't get past all that.

Lord of the Rings had such an overall respect for the story and the acting and just everything was so good that I could deal with the changes that enraged me at the time. These films can't.

Lion Witch and Wardrobe is the only one I can watch over and over.

Sad. :(

Posted : June 18, 2012 6:25 pm
chief dwarf
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I just watched it again and I liked it much more than I used to. A couple things still annoyed me. Firstly, I abhor all all the cheesy one liners that interrupt serious scenes. (Especially the excessive use of shut up) Secondly I really felt like Aslan got short changed and his role in the story went way down. Although I did like how they spent a good bit of time talking about him. I wish they would have just given him the scenes that did in the book. Lastly the final battle was far too long and the duel was so boring with its endless slow motion shots.

However on this rewatch I didn't mind the Peter/Caspian conflict as much. To be honest I felt that the book versions of those characters were a tad dull. (Caspian gets much more interesting in the VODT book) I also really loved the contrast between the Narnian Culture and the Telmarine Culture, the filmmakers played that up really well. I felt that it retained the main themes from the book even if it did leave out some important scenes.

In perspective after seeing the VODT movie I feel silly for complaining about little things like Susan fighting and the White Witch being in the film when far far worse could have been done.

Narnia Book Purist AND Narnia Movie Fan.

Posted : June 20, 2012 5:44 pm
jesus-aslan freak
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Secondly I really felt like Aslan got short changed and his role in the story went way down. Although I did like how they spent a good bit of time talking about him. I wish they would have just given him the scenes that did in the book.

While I agree that the absence of Aslan did disappoint me, I have to disagree with you. I always felt he was more absent in the book. He may not make a physical appearance in the film as much, but he makes an emotional appearance throughout the move. In the book, when Lucy sees Aslan and the others try to do things on their own, it only goes on for about two chapters. The rest of the book goes on past that message. They took that theme and distributed it through out the film. Lucy sees Aslan and wants to wait on his timing, the others do things on their own and nearly loose the war. When they do see him, the scene is a lot like the one in the book. (Also: I actually thought that having the White Witch in the film was kind of cool, but only because Tilda's White Witch is like my second favorite character and I was glad she made a cameo in both this film, and the third film.

For Aslan!

Posted : June 21, 2012 9:50 am
Ithilwen
(@ithilwen)
NarniaWeb Zealot

Over time, my view of PC has changed and then changed back.

When I first watched the film, I was greatly disappointed. Over time, I gradually learned to enjoy certain aspects of it, and my opinion of it improved. But the more I think about the book (which was my favorite of the CoN) the more that disappointment seeps back into me.

There just seems to be something so shallow about the movie, as opposed to the substance of the book. And I feel that quality was sorely lacking in the film. The acting was dodgy, Caspian's accent was clearly faked, and I didn't care much for the special effects.

Also, they ruined my favorite character. Movie!Trumpkin is not at all like Book!Trumpkin. And that's the character I looked forward to seeing most. He acted more like Book!Nikabrik than Trumpkin. :P

One of my favorite scenes from any of the books was the Dance of the Dryads in the forest at night. And that scene was changed entirely. :(

~Riella =:)

Posted : June 30, 2012 11:14 pm
NarnianMonkey
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I'm not sure whether it;s that my feelings haven't changed or I like it more. I liked it originally and I still like it just as much, if not more, so I'm just not sure.

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Posted : July 1, 2012 9:04 am
starkat
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I initially liked it, but was highly frustrated with how dark the tone was. I still highly dislike the night raid and Caspian/Peter squabbling. So pretty much I still hold the same opinion as before.

a) A solidly knit movie over all. There was no disjointed story telling.
b) Caspian/Peter squabbling - still highly dislike it as I still believe they could have had them move from two boys arguing who was boss to two kings who were arguing what was best for their people simply by including the line "We haven't come to take your place, but to put you into it." That would have drastically changed the entire tone of the movie imo to something a couple of shades lighter and allowed them to include the night raid without getting quite so grim.
c) Still think the night raid was entirely too dark. Yes, I know it was war and war is dark, but as a family movie it was entirely too far off the deep end. A mother I walked out of the movie with was pretty upset because she though it would be ok for her youngest to go to and she had to take him out during the night raid (under 8 years old).

Posted : July 2, 2012 4:51 pm
Ithilwen
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Caspian/Peter squabbling - still highly dislike it as I still believe they could have had them move from two boys arguing who was boss to two kings who were arguing what was best for their people simply by including the line "We haven't come to take your place, but to put you into it." That would have drastically changed the entire tone of the movie imo to something a couple of shades lighter and allowed them to include the night raid without getting quite so grim.

I think they did a bad job on Peter's character development altogether. I get that they want to portray the bitterness that goes along with growing up and becoming accustomed to Narnia and then, not only having to come back here, but also be kids again. But shouldn't the fact that he was once an adult - and a High King, what's more - make him a bit more mature than that? I would have thought he would have shown much more bravery than he did in that hardship. It seemed very unlike Peter to me. :(

But then, I wasn't fond of most of the character development in the movie, overall. I think more focus should have been placed on the characters, rather than on all the battles.

~Riella =:)

Posted : July 2, 2012 8:36 pm
narnianerd
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NarniaWeb Guru

I for one was a huge fan of the Caspian/Peter squabble. This might be because I'm a guy and I can relate. This is a natural thing for guys, when we feel challenged we lash out. There is a reason that hazing is much more common among dudes than it is among girls.

We are very territorial in nature, therefore even if Peter hadn't been in the dumps about trying to reclaim his spot he and Caspian in reality still would have clashed. It made both of the characters feel human to me.

Also, don't forget that Peter is a boy with a Kings memories. He's fully a teenager again, with all the hormones and the awkwardness that comes with it. He can remember being responsible and knowledgeable, but he isn't anymore, therefore I see his anger not only being directed towards others but also towards himself which he then directs towards others.

If you ain't first, you're last.

Posted : July 2, 2012 9:16 pm
Narnian_Badger
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Weeeeeeell...

I liked it then. Later I wasn't so keen on it. And then I liked it. And then for a brief period I didn't like it. And now I've decided that, yes, I do like it.

It's complicated. But mostly, I've decided that as a standalone film, it's quite good (though the third act is a bit of a let-down). Probably about a 7/10. In terms of adaptations, it's... just okay (and the third act is still a bit of a let down :P ). There's no one thing that I can't stand about PC (though I shall never have any fondness for Suspian), but there are also few things that I completely adore about it. So... yes, I like it. Just maybe not so much as an adaptation.

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Posted : July 3, 2012 10:36 am
narnianerd
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I really like PC, it felt like a Narnian film. Which VDT failed to do. The characters were decent and the script was okay and for the most part it stayed true to the book. Even when it didn't, most of the changes actually helped the film.

I love what they did with Peter and Caspian and I'm not entirely sure why everyone hates it. The only part of the film I didn't like was Casusan and only then because it was stupid. If they had at least fleshed it out more I could have respected it. Other than that, the film stuck true to the spirit of the book. Which is the most important thing, right?

If you ain't first, you're last.

Posted : July 3, 2012 10:44 am
lover of narnia
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My initial feelings for PC have not changed, though you could probably say I like it even more than before. For the longest time, it ranked as my #1 favorite movie, even despite all the changes from the book. PC had that glorious 'Narnia' feel that VDT lacked, and was well done. It was, in all truth, the Prince Caspian movie that led me here and started me on the journey as a Narnia fan. Without it, I cannot imagine where I'd be. I could accurately describe to you, really, my first feelings after leaving the theater.

The Peter/Caspian squabbling did not really bother me. Though I understand how it was a great change, and I do very much enjoy the way he was in the books in contrast to the movie, I think what they did worked. It was not out-of-the-blue, with no possible reason. Yes, I think things would have worked without changing Peter's character and making him conflict with Caspian, but I did very much enjoy what was done.

Caspian/Susan. Well, I think y'all know how I feel. :) I loved it and still do.

The White Witch summoning scene was fine. I think it was added and did in such a way that did not ruin the feel of the movie or seem horribly out of place, since it did have some source material from the book. Do I like what they did in the book? Yes. A lot. But do I also like what they did in the movie? Yes.

I've seen several people say how they felt that PC fell apart in the third act. I do not really see this. The battle wasn't handled sloppily, and, I never was a fan of Lucy and Susan's romp with Aslan. This is why I liked the way they handled the Lucy finding Aslan/Susan joining the fights. Not that the romp did not have its purpose, and sort of show that old Narnia was in fact not dead, I always found it a bit interesting that they should be having such a good time while the boys risked their lives. Perhaps I am viewing it wrong.

Anyhow. I very much enjoy PC. Under one another, PC is my favorite movie. This is probably because of how magical it felt to me initially and how it still feels like such. Does it have its flaws as an adaption? Yes. But that doesn't make it a bad movie.

Loyal supporter of Caspian/Susan.
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Posted : July 3, 2012 10:49 am
Ithilwen
(@ithilwen)
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PC is a great movie, but a bad adaptation. Especially in the area of character accuracy. It has good points and bad points. I can genuinely enjoy it if I forget the book. With the book in my mind, though... watching it is painful. :P

I think the movie is a 6/10 for me. ;)

~Riella =:)

Posted : July 3, 2012 10:59 pm
7chronicles
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NarniaWeb Guru

I really enjoyed Prince Caspian when it first came out, and I still do! :)
I think I appreciate PC a lot more after seeing VDT. ;)
I really love the feeling in the whole movie, even though there were a few changes, it still feels like Narnia!
Out of the three, I like the way PC was filmed the most!
And the colors in the movie are so beautiful!!!
So while I'm bugged by a few changes, they don't keep me from enjoying the movie.
It came very close to how I pictured PC when I read the book.
Just a little lacking.
So PC gets an 8/10 from me. :)

The Value of myth is that it takes all the things you know and restores to them the rich significance which has been hidden by the veil of familiarity. C.S. Lewis

Posted : July 3, 2012 11:09 pm
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