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[Closed] Poll: Rank VDT as an Adaptation

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wolfloversk
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I went for option 6 (just over half). There were lots of moments were it was faithful (particularly with Eustace), but there were also a few moments were it was not.

I'd have to say the big three unfaithfultalities (I claim artistic licence) would be the Dark Island Plot, the Undragoning, and the fight at Narrowhaven.

The top three faithful moments would be Eustace's Journal/ character- particularly the final entry, though not in the book I think it says a lot that the book says; Aslan's Dialougue at the end ("There I have another name"- Thank the Lord they kept that); and the details of the settings themselves.

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Posted : June 21, 2011 9:00 pm
waggawerewolf27
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As detailed as this poll is, I find myself wondering why it wasn't called Rank VDT as an adaptation in comparison to what other possible adaptations. There is only one proper comparison so far: the BBC television series of VDT. I would have considered this version to be much more faithful to the book. And there are the two audio dramas put out by BBC and FoTF also for comparison.

When of all the adaptations it is only the FotF audiodrama which mentions Lucy trying the eavesdropping spell, and Aslan remonstrating with her over it, then how could anyone say that any of the other versions are 100% true to the book? That BBC series, like the Walden film, does not show Lucy enthroned in Calormen whilst knights fought in tournaments over her. I expect that bit would be too difficult to show in a movie also. And though the BBC VDT did a good job in producing a more faithful version in its television series, this 4 episode production is hardly the same kettle of fish as producing a 2 hour movie.

So I voted 7, since additions, rearrangements and omissions aside, Walden VDT is still quite faithful to the book overall, as movie adaptations go. I'm aware of much worse ones, such as Gulliver's travels, Heidi and Troy among others.

Much of the film is derived from the book somewhere, even fogginess on Dragon Island and swords lying around on Deathwater Island. Though I'll agree that the Narrowhaven bit could have been done better, and was way off target. But the Dawn Treader, itself, was 100% faithful, and could scarcely be bettered. The scenery was 90% faithful, and the costuming was quite good also. The beginning was terrific, and the ending was good also. I thought the book characters who were included were, for the most part, well delineated, in particular Eustace and Reepicheep. And I liked the idea that the crew on the Dawn Treader included some Narnians like Tavros, even though he was never mentioned in the book.

Edmund was not as close. It is hard to tell in his case because I don't have a strong impression of him from the book.

Neither do I get a strong impression from the book. He just turns up and plays the good guy. Apart from first being Eustace's critic, then his confidant, and arguing twice with Caspian, what major part does Edmund play in the book? For a long time I thought of VDT as the consolation prize holiday Edmund and Lucy got for missing out on going to America, more than anything else, and thought it was Caspian's fault when Edmund argued with him. Edmund in the film, though, could have been taken straight from the FoTF audio version, in which Caspian also accuses Edmund of desiring to take the gold out of Narnia.

A lot of the characters from the book were there but... I didn't like the green mist addition or the additions on the crew of Gael and her father (Rhince?) ...

Yes it was Rhince who is Gael's father. And Rhince was most definitely in the book. So in effect, apart from Tavros, the boatswain, Gael is the only added extra to be noted. Most film adaptations have considerably more such additions to the cast, even the relatively faithful ones.

Posted : June 22, 2011 2:00 am
Nic5
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I voted 7 too, it's a just scrapped in type of 7 though :p

Lot's of elements of the book there, from obvious to not so obvious in most parts of the film. It's a film filled/brimming with lots of goods bits from VODT story rather than being entire VODT itself end to end as first two were to me despite still being adaptations themselves. All the good bits just seem more dis-jointed from each other & i don't think that's due to episodic Island hopping either. I like just about all the additions but they suffer from same problems as book elements in the film.

Encapsulation of film adaptation for me is in it's ending sequences: Arriving at edge of Aslan's country looks great, emotional resolution of character arcs don't do anything for me at this point nor catching up with Aslan very extra worthwhile, and find acting abit patchy here, but then transition back to room and painting is really well done all round & pretty in-vocative of consistent Narnia standard- for the most part - from all three films as well as being this particular book episode.

I thought The Last Airbender was absolutely wonderful film, so for me really had a pretty good year at the cinema 2010 so my thoughts are relative to when i do like films of this type - it's not like there are heaps of them that catch my fancies in a cinema year. Also my criticisms are just a different way of enjoying films that i do like - I don't understand people who go on & on about films they don't like at all or very much, if you don't get a film, there won't really be much of a POV that can be added that can make it a more interesting or better watching experience as films are things in themselves, so it ends up going on about something else usually. i-)

Posted : June 22, 2011 2:52 am
Warrior 4 Jesus
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Sorry, you lost me at 'The Last Airbender was a wonderful movie'. The simple truth is that VDT was a mediocre adaptation of a great book. And even if we go by movie-making standards, it wasn't a well-made movie.

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Posted : June 22, 2011 3:45 am
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