I like everything about the movie! To me there was no really flaws. The book didn't go very indepth, and Peter's attitude can be very easily understood. He was taken from his like of splendor as High King, and thrown back into his own world. It was a big change. PLus, becuase of it he didn't take bullieing very well. He is understandable.

I think Miraz was a great villian and they made the danger so dangerous. People really got hurt and killed. Caspian's character was perfect and his looks were a WONDERFUL change. I like the dark hair and accent. PLus his unsurety and insecureness. It was neve really him the caused the fights. He would sit back while Peter took charge, for the most part. I like the added nightraid, it was really good. The romance was so beautiful, with looks and feelings. I think the movie was by far the best. It's my VERY VERY favorite movie. PC gets a 10/10.

lover of narnia: I didn't find many flaws in PC either, except for Suspian. Although I think it was clearly written in the script, and therefore not unexpected, I didn't see how it added anything to the plot. But I definitely prefer PC to LWW and would watch it again. It had clearer, stronger spiritual themes and seemed less episodic.

I think Miraz was a great villian and they made the danger so dangerous. People really got hurt and killed. Caspian's character was perfect and his looks were a WONDERFUL change. I like the dark hair and accent. Plus his unsurety and insecureness. It was never really him that caused the fights. He would sit back while Peter took charge, for the most part. I like the added nightraid, it was really good.

I also liked the night raid and thought Miraz a good villain. But you enjoy people getting killed? I thought it was sad! I think Caspian's insecurity was necessary to the plot, but I don't know how much he let Peter take charge. It was like he realized he needed to step up and do his job to reclaim the throne but what do you do with Peter?

The characterization for Peter and Caspian was just really messed up. Peter acted like a spoiled brat and Caspian wasn't assertive enough to step up to the plate and challenge him. Until we get to the bratty name-calling match. Quite frankly, I wouldn't follow either one of them. Edmund or Lucy would make better leaders.

Quite frankly, I wouldn't follow either one of them. Edmund or Lucy would make better leaders.

LOL! Great idea! Lucy sees Aslan. Edmund doesn't. But they both have faith in him from the beginning, unlike Caspian and Peter...

Sorry for the double post. But it's been awhile.

It occurred to me today that Peter and Caspian aren't fighting for the throne [something I thought months earlier because of Peter's apparent pride and desire for recognition ]. Peter knows it's his duty to put Caspian on the Narnian throne. Instead, I think they fight because they're working out who's in charge -- of putting Caspian on the throne, of leading the Narnian army, of giving orders, etc. Whether or not the movie should have portrayed Peter and Caspian's relationship that way, I don't know. But I finally realized Peter's motivations and the real conflict between the two men.

I sort of have a love/hate thing going on with his movie. As a movie, it is okay, it just doesn't stick out like it should. As an adaptation, I find most of it abominable. Peter is a bratty jerk, Caspian is rather clueless, Susan is a warrior queen, Reepicheep is full of himself, and I didn't find anything romantic in the romance. I did like the bits between Aslan and Lucy(except for those line changes, *makes angry growling noises at whoever thought dumbing down Aslan was a good idea*). And Cair Paravel, and the calling on the witch bit.

daughter of the King [love the username and sig ]: I know what you mean about Peter, Susan, and Suspian. But I didn't think Caspian clueless or Reepicheep full of himself.

Aslan line changes: I think they made up for it in the plot. The result was an Aslan the Pevensies and Narnians had to put their faith in to win [the whole point of the movie]. That doesn't sound like "dumbing down" to me. I preferred PC Aslan to LWW Aslan because he was much more integral to the plot, even with less screen time. Not physically present doesn't mean not there!

"Calling on the witch bit": temptation becomes very real when Peter and a few others don't trust in or look for Aslan. They open themselves up to bad influences. The scene may not have been pretty, but it was necessary for the plot and theme. There are always non-Aslan alternatives. They just had to steer clear of them. The same is true in LWW, SC, MN, HHB, and LB. I honestly think Aslan allowed them to be tempted to test their faith.

Here's my movie review of PC. I wrote it in March but published it on WordPress a few minutes ago. Enjoy!

Clueless was probably the wrong word to use. I just couldn't come up with a better one. The reason I find him that way is because he is so old. I know, the actor is older than the character, but he's still to old to still be a prince when he is heir to the throne. I thought an adult would be able to figure out faster that he is supposed to be king, not just prince. It just doesn't come across right to me for some reason. Probably because Miraz is already king in the book so Caspian would still be prince even if he was older.
Perhaps Reepicheep isn't "full of himself," but he seems so cocky. And I'm afraid I don't find him at all chivalrous or courteous. I find him slightly irritating. (probably just me............)
I said that I thought they dumbed down Aslan because he is not portrayed as THE king of Narnia. He's just the guy who comes in at the end and rescues everybody and he would have rescued everybody earlier if they had asked him. Which is sort of how it is in the book, but it feels like he is not being portrayed as a Christ-like figure. Which bugs me, but I think I said that already.
Whenever I forget about all those things, I find myself really enjoying the movie. Except when the battle scene drags on and on and on
Thanks, I like my name and sig too.

Clueless was probably the wrong word to use. I just couldn't come up with a better one. The reason I find him that way is because he is so old. I know, the actor is older than the character, but he's still to old to still be a prince when he is heir to the throne. I thought an adult would be able to figure out faster that he is supposed to be king, not just prince. . . .Whenever I forget about all those things, I find myself really enjoying the movie. Except when the battle scene drags on and on and on

LOL! Thanks for the laughs!

I said that I thought they dumbed down Aslan because he is not portrayed as THE king of Narnia. He's just the guy who comes in at the end and rescues everybody and he would have rescued everybody earlier if they had asked him. Which is sort of how it is in the book, but it feels like he is not being portrayed as a Christ-like figure. Which bugs me, but I think I said that already.

Well, how often in the Bible does God seemingly rescue someone at the end? Look how long the Israelites had to wait before Moses showed up, before Pharaoh let them go, before the Red Sea opened before them, etc. And how long did David have to wait for his throne? Look at what he endured at the hands of Saul! How long did the 3 Hebrew children have to wait for God to rescue them? He did so IN the fire. How long did Daniel have to wait for God to rescue him? He did so IN the lions' den. And how long did Israel have to wait for Jesus, the promised Messiah, to bring redemption? The first prophecy was in Genesis 3:15. From there, 4000 years to the cross! "He's just the guy who comes in at the end and rescues everybody" ... you'd be surprised at how often this describes God in the Bible and in people's lives.

"He would have rescued everybody earlier if they had asked him" ... maybe Aslan would've and maybe he wouldn't. Timing is everything. Many times we must be tested first. Note the Biblical examples above.

The difference is that in the Bible the people of Israel wait on God and on his timing and on his plan. In PC it almost seems as if Aslan waits on the children. He waits for them to prove themselves worthy to help them which is, of course, impossible because we are so unworthy. Aslan waits until the children decide that he fits into their plan. I don't think God is waiting around to see if we will ask Him to rescue us.

God came to Israels rescue many times throughout history. He was protecting the lineage of Jesus Christ. Think of how many times those in Jesus lineage come close to death and God protected them.

It is not our plan. It is God's plan and we wait on Him.

The difference is that in the Bible the people of Israel wait on God and on his timing and on his plan. In PC it almost seems as if Aslan waits on the children. He waits for them to prove themselves worthy to help them which is, of course, impossible because we are so unworthy. Aslan waits until the children decide that he fits into their plan. I don't think God is waiting around to see if we will ask Him to rescue us.

Thank you! That's what I was trying to say.

The difference is that in the Bible the people of Israel wait on God and on his timing and on his plan. In PC it almost seems as if Aslan waits on the children. He waits for them to prove themselves worthy to help them which is, of course, impossible because we are so unworthy. Aslan waits until the children decide that he fits into their plan. I don't think God is waiting around to see if we will ask Him to rescue us.

I thought about this last night, after I went to bed. And it dawned on me that it isn't until near the end of the movie, after Peter focuses on Aslan's image in the How that he finally looks to Aslan for help. I don't think it was Aslan waiting on the children to prove themselves worthy. I thought they proved themselves unworthy instead. It's Aslan waiting on them to ask him, seek him, call on him, for help. Only when they do does he help. In the meantime, they have to discover for themselves that they can't help themselves and need Aslan. decarus, you said "I don't think God is waiting around to see if we will ask Him to rescue us." I disagree. There are exceptions, of course. But generally God helps those who ask, who call on Him. He wants us to call on Him. It's a biblical refrain. Check the Psalms. When does God reveal Himself to Moses? After the children of Israel "sighed by reason of the bondage, and they cried, and their cry came up unto God by reason of the bondage." Then what happens? "God heard their groaning and God remembered His covenant with Abraham, with Isaac, and with Jacob" [Exodus 2:23-24, KJV].

Psalm 18 In my distress I called upon the LORD, and cried unto my God: he heard my voice out of his temple, and my cry came before him, even into his ears.
Psalm 54 Offer unto God thanksgiving; and pay thy vows unto the most High: And call upon me in the day of trouble: I will deliver thee, and thou shalt glorify me.
Psalm 91 He shall call upon me, and I will answer him: I will be with him in trouble; I will deliver him, and honour him.
Psalm 145 The LORD is nigh unto all them that call upon him, to all that call upon him in truth.
Isaiah 55 Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near: Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
Jeremiah 33 Call unto me, and I will answer thee, and show thee great and mighty things, which thou knowest not.
Matthew 7 Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you: For every one that asketh receiveth; and he that seeketh findeth; and to him that knocketh it shall be opened.
James 4 Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.

There are some things we can obtain only by asking God, in prayer. In some ways, this is what Lucy does when she seeks Aslan in the forest, the place where she saw him in her dream. It was the only clue she had to go on. Aslan doesn't always magically appear when they want him. They have to learn to seek him. It's a new dimension to knowing Aslan.

Everything God does occurs at the time he specifies, but that doesn’t mean his timing is independent of our choices. Unlike us, he know exactly what will happen. Therefore, he can design his timing around our choices (if he so chooses). So it would make since for in CoN for Aslan to save the children and Old Narnia after they remember it is him they are fight for. He uses everything they go through to put them back on the right path and remind them of who he is.

PC had its pluses and minuses.

Minues: Peter. I have to say William Mosely was the weakest actor of the group. He did his stuff pretty well, but he was definately more Peter in LWW than in PC. Caspian's character was different from the book, and he had mixed feelings towards the stories of old. He apparently loved the idea of talking animals, but apparently had little regard for the Kings and Queens of Old. The plot changes were necessary so I didn't see that as a distractant.

Pluses: There were at a lot of pluses in PC. The action was definately better. The danger was real as was posted, and the fight scenes were very realistic. One of the downsides to choreographed fights (prime examples are the Star Wars lightsaber duels) is that in a fight, you are trying to hit your foe, not do some sort of dance waiting for the right moment. The Peter/Miraz duel was downright brutal and very much how a real fight would have been carried out. You could tell they were searching for an opening to get a hit.

The rest of the acting was sensational. Three stood out to me: Sergio, Skandar, and Peter Dinklage (Trumpkin). For such a flat book character, Miraz was the best fleshed out character I have seen on film. Skandar keeps getting better as an actor. His best shot was issuing the challenge to Miraz for the duel. He stood out among all the adults and that closing shot of Edmund was the one facial shot I was most anticipating in the whole film. On top of that, Skandar has definatley become the best swordsman I have seen on film in quite some time. Not only does he know his sword actions, he has excellent form and style. I really hope Skandar returns for Edmund in HHB. Trumpkin was Narnia's version of Gimli: excellent comic relief while not being comic relief. I'm going to be bummed if we don't get to see him too much more in the rest of the series.

*gently nudges the thread back on topic and away from N&C territory*